My main problem with Christians looking down on homosexuals is this. God wouldn't make people gay, and the whole thing about free-will is so questionable because pre-Destination says that God has planned everything out. Whether or not Christians want to admit, there is waaaaay more evidence of people being born with things such as sexuality than there is evidence of people choosing to be gay. A question pops up then; what if they "choose" to be gay? So what?! It's their decision. Why does it matter to you what another dude does? It's not a big deal. If I felt bothered by gay people, clearly I wouldn't be here. Christians and non-Christians alike are becoming more sympathetic in terms of sexuality. Then another question comes up: How do homosexuals "degrade" marriage? Was it intended for men and women initially? Yes. Does that mean it being adjusted will affect its relevance or importance? **** no. All it's doing is showing discrimination by a state government, which is unconstitutional. A final important question is this: Should Christians be allowed to inject THEIR beliefs in AMERICA'S politics? Cause I'm pretty sure that if a Jewish person or a Muslim attempted to pass any sort of law that reflected their religious beliefs, they'd get shut out faster than they could throw him out the door. Religion in politics is a no-no, your personal grimes with a certain belief that doesn't even affect you is a no-no, and being an ignorant prick then broadcasting your stupdity on YouTube is, yet again, a no-no.
This is true. I think alot of you guys are around alot of liberal-minded people, but you might be surprised at how many Republicans (and Democrats for that matter) are out there who would vote for this guy. Like someone else said, probably most of the people dragging him aren't even old enough to vote, or aren't even interested in politics enough to go out and actually vote when the time comes.
And things are looking a bit shabby for Obama, so who knows, we might have a Republican in the Oval Office next year, whether its Perry or whoever. I don't think all Republicans are bad however, just as I don't think all Democrats are good either.
This is true. I think alot of you guys are around alot of liberal-minded people, but you might be surprised at how many Republicans (and Democrats for that matter) are out there who would vote for this guy. Like someone else said, probably most of the people dragging him aren't even old enough to vote, or aren't even interested in politics enough to go out and actually vote when the time comes.
And things are looking a bit shabby for Obama, so who knows, we might have a Republican in the Oval Office next year, whether its Perry or whoever. I don't think all Republicans are bad however, just as I don't think all Democrats are good either.
This is true. I think alot of you guys are around alot of liberal-minded people, but you might be surprised at how many Republicans (and Democrats for that matter) are out there who would vote for this guy. Like someone else said, probably most of the people dragging him aren't even old enough to vote, or aren't even interested in politics enough to go out and actually vote when the time comes.
And things are looking a bit shabby for Obama, so who knows, we might have a Republican in the Oval Office next year, whether its Perry or whoever. I don't think all Republicans are bad however, just as I don't think all Democrats are good either.
I honestly don't see that happening. Our society is ever-changing and his point of view is becoming more and more outdated by the day.
He may stand a slight chance, but the minority and gay community's vote is crucial.
I try to stay moderate as well. I actually hate politics and bipartisanship period, but I've heard ignorant ass comments from Gingrich, Bachmann, Cain, and Perry regarding homosexuality and poverty. It pisses me off. It's to the point where it can't just be a coincidence that I tend to lean more towards the Democrats. I hate conservatives. The world needs change. With the way the world is revolving around us, there's no way we can continue to institute the same stale principles and beliefs.
Umm the world is turning conservative, that's the change people are rooting for, you can see how there's almost no left/liberal governments in Europe, so who knows? America could go this route too.
....your personal grimes with a certain belief that doesn't even affect you is a no-no, and being an ignorant prick then broadcasting your stupdity on YouTube is, yet again, a no-no.
Everyone wants to bring up first amendment rights and what not --- well isn't it Rick Perry's first amendment right to broadcast his opinions over Youtube?
I don't agree with what he's saying, and I know you all don't -- but he's still entitled to an opinion, either vote for him or don't if he gets the nomination.
There are millions of people who watched that commercial and decided to vote for Perry -- much how there are people out there who are going to vote against Obama because he's black.
Don't underestimate people and how ignorant they might be. Racism and homophobia is still very prominent, and releasing this commercial probably did more good than bad for him. Those 26,000 dislikes from people on Youtube don't equal the voting public.
Don't get it twisted. Your Ohio's, Nebraska's and Texas's are conservative states....they also have a good chunk of electoral votes.
And while the tide on gay rights is slowly turning, it hasn't gotten to the point where gay's have pull within elections -- just look at California and their battle with the gay marriage law -- coming from a LIBERAL/BLUE STATE....gay marriage is still a hot topic.
And votes from the gay community are not "crucial".
^ sure he can have his opinion! But why is he even trying? He is so dumb!!
He has no cause! Christmas really?
He will win nothing, im from tx and alot if people think he's a joke!
Rick Perry isn't going to get the nomination because he has messed up too much in the primaries.
After President Bush had a, generally, surprisingly silent stance on gay marriage - the Republicans are probably tired of dabbling in the middle of the Conservative/Liberal line and are cracking down to go far right -- traditional family values, little government. That's why all the current nominees have been "gay bashing" lately.
umm the world is turning conservative, that's the change people are rooting for, you can see how there's almost no left/liberal governments in europe, so who knows? America could go this route too.
No liberal/left governments left in Europe
Europe as a whole is UNDENIABLY much much much more Liberal (or our definiton of it) compared to the U.S. I know that Sweden is borderline Socialist, off the top of my head, but if I was more educated about European economic systems I would probably name of 30 examples. What are you talking about beatz? Like.. That's not even.
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Rick Perry isn't going to get the nomination because he has messed up too much in the primaries.
After President Bush had a, generally, surprisingly silent stance on gay marriage - the Republicans are probably tired of dabbling in the middle of the Conservative/Liberal line and are cracking down to go far right -- traditional family values, little government. That's why all the current nominees have been "gay bashing" lately.
Strategically, it's a good move for them.
Agreed! And you know what - it's a good strategy. The right is going further to the right, and the left is moving further to the center. I like it like it. Less Rep. / Conservative influence in office
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Yass @ him shooting himself in the foot and ruining any chance he had at presidency. What a close-minded ****.
I'm still dying at Christians can't celebrate Christmas openly.
You know what's sad is I bet about 70% of my town are HUGE Perry supporters. He has a following... It's just... dare I say it, WRONG.
Europe as a whole is UNDENIABLY much much much more Liberal (or our definiton of it) compared to the U.S. I know that Sweden is borderline Socialist, off the top of my head, but if I was more educated about European economic systems I would probably name of 30 examples. What are you talking about beatz? Like.. That's not even.
Only Denmark and another country whose name I don't remember have liberal governments.
The rest of the countries in the EU (24 of 27) are ruled by conservative regime. The last one overthrown was Spain's weeks ago.
Europe as a whole is UNDENIABLY much much much more Liberal (or our definiton of it) compared to the U.S. I know that Sweden is borderline Socialist, off the top of my head, but if I was more educated about European economic systems I would probably name of 30 examples. What are you talking about beatz? Like.. That's not even.
Agreed. I think belief wise -- Europe is much more liberal.
I honestly don't see that happening. Our society is ever-changing and his point of view is becoming more and more outdated by the day.
He may stand a slight chance, but the minority and gay community's vote is crucial.
They minority and gay vote definetley are crucial. I just don't want people to get it twisted that having 26,000 dislikes on Youtube is a reflection of how America is going to vote. These middle-aged to elderly Southern White American Republicans ESPECIALLY take politics seriously and they head out in DROVES to be the first in line to vote for their candidate.
Alot of young 18-21 year old Progressives are going to sit around, make Youtube video responses slamming Perry, and start text chain letters, but so many of these kids are not even freakin' registered to vote.
The hype about having a first Black president and getting a Dem. in office was hot in 2008, but Obama is under SO much criticism now that honestly its a toss-up.