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Discussion: A woman or still just a girl? Discuss | BRITNEY
Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by JakeKills
...Adele would all argue otherwise.
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Adele isn't shy
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Originally posted by satellites™
Not that, she just was a different age for one, and a different person when she sang that. It's like using Like A Virgin with Madonna just because it's her song, when we all know her ***** has been visited more than the Grand Canyon.
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You. Did. Not.
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Member Since: 11/3/2010
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I'm personally offended this next topic wasn't waited until I was online. I've been waiting for this one.
She is a girl. A child. Mentally, an infant, even.
There is nothing 'woman' about a nearly 30 year old with two children who still is required by law to have parental supervision. She is so mentally fragile, she can't even handle the media or essentially anything without being coddled by her father, management, and fans. I think she's not only mentally incompetent, but disturbed, as well. To the point that only extreme psychiatric help can even attempt to fix.
I would go deeper in, but for now, I'll leave with one final statement. Miley damn Cyrus is more of a woman. And that's factual.
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
I'm personally offended this next topic wasn't waited until I was online. I've been waiting for this one.
She is a girl. A child. Mentally, an infant, even.
There is nothing 'woman' about a nearly 30 year old with two children who still is required by law to have parental supervision. She is so mentally fragile, she can't even handle the media or essentially anything without being coddled by her father, management, and fans. I think she's not only mentally incompetent, but disturbed, as well. To the point that only extreme psychiatric help can even attempt to fix.
I would go deeper in, but for now, I'll leave with one final statement. Miley damn Cyrus is more of a woman. And that's factual.
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Did you have to be so blunt?
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Member Since: 6/15/2009
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
Miley damn Cyrus is more of a woman than Rihanna.
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Fixed.
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Member Since: 11/3/2010
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
Did you have to be so blunt?
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I'm not going to tip toe around the questionable mental sanity of a middle-aged woman.
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Originally posted by Britneyfan09
Fixed.
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Are you that mentally stunted that your only response when someone serves a gallon of tea on your girl is to insult their fave? Or is it that you have no defense because there is none?
I wonder.
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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She is a woman who will always have to live up to an iconic pop-cultural image of herself from her early days.
She has always done things differently, which turned her into the leader and the avant-garde of pop. I don’t see disconnect between her and her music. She hasn't been actually going out to clubs lately, because she has one at her house. It has glitter balls, catering, lights, everything. She's become extremely guarded with her personal life and we know barely 50% of what's going on in her life right now (and the little that what we know is questionable,) so God know what goes on there. She loves music, and she makes the music that she loves and enjoys, and that is all that matters. Her fans love it and everyone else still seems to like it. "Femme Fatale" is coherent and entertaining, and most of the tracks suit her more than anything she's recorded since her "In The Zone" days ("Hold It Against Me," "Inside Out," "How I Roll," "Trouble For Me," "Trip To Your Heart," "Gasoline," "Criminal," "He About To Lose Me," "Don't Keep Me Waiting," "Scary.") According to Metacritic, it is her second most critically acclaimed album, but it is probably her most critically acclaimed work thus far, since almost every reviewer has named it her best album yet. Also, Madonna is 53 and her music is hardly age-appropriate. Katy Perry is 27 and listen to what she's singing about.
She is trying her best to keep her personal life private right now. We rarely even get candids anymore (and when we do, she doesn't have make-up in them and she's usually on her way to her son's little league game,) since she moved into an area which is like a little town freed of paparazzi and media. She is in love and she is doing what she loves the most, raising a family, being a mom. She has always loved kids and her favorite meet & greets are with her little fans.
The main problem with Britney right now is her tightly controlled public image, which is the reason why everyone still sees her as a girl. I personally think all of it has a lot to do with the fact that she didn't get to grow up, try things out, and make mistakes privately. She was the ultimate tabloid sensation, always watched, judged, and under a microscope since she was a teenager. In 2003/2004, she was given too much freedom and she didn't really figure out what to do with it, which ended up in her growing up too fast and ultimately led to her breakdown. Every pop star depends on their image and ever since her breakdown, I feel like her label is trying excessively hard to tell everybody that she is okay. The scripted documentary and interviews did more damage than good this era.
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Member Since: 6/15/2009
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
Are you that mentally stunted that your only response when someone serves a gallon of tea on your girl is to insult their fave? Or is it that you have no defense because there is none?
I wonder.
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I'm simply not in the mood for an essay debate right now.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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It's hard to say. By no means would I consider Britney to be a woman, but I don't think she's a girl either. She's like a teenager, almost; somewhere caught in between, still trying to figure things out.
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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Originally posted by satellites™
I could roll with this if it wasn't made over 5 years ago.
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More like a decade (it couldn't have suited her better at the time.) She's always said that it's one of the favorite songs she's ever sung.
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Member Since: 9/28/2009
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Originally posted by satellites™
Not that, she just was a different age for one, and a different person when she sang that. It's like using Like A Virgin with Madonna just because it's her song, when we all know her ***** has been visited more than the Grand Canyon.
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Wait, how can you care about lyrical sincerity when Beyoncé's discography is the definition of insincere?
Plus it's called " Like a Virgin" not "I Am A Virgin".
As for Britney, girl. She never really grew up.
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Member Since: 6/30/2010
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She's not a girl, neither a woman
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Originally posted by Rock That Beat...
If your mom did not take that *** from your dad your ass would have never been here typing stupid ****.
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True.
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Something in between
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Britney Spears is not girl, but not yet a woman.
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I see that ATRL's resident wanabe Sigmund Freud is back from banland.
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
I see that ATRL's resident wanabe Sigmund Freud is back from banland.
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
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It really amazes me how much you're obsessed by this. Really, not even Britney's biggest rater act this way. Why? Really, why?
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 6/23/2008
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I'll argue that she's a woman. Make as many off-hand comments as you'd like about the little puppet who, when it comes to her career and personal life, has been forced to relinquish some controls (it should be noted, however, that she's no longer as reliant on her father's protection/guidance as many of you claim), but if you persist that she is a child and that's your sole focus for your argument, I do feel as though you're probably ignoring the bigger picture. Would it not be important to note the significant progress she's made in turning her life around? She'll never be normal, that's for sure, but her lingering mental illness does not render her insipid or childlike. The fact her drive as a performer is diminished doesn't have any real bearing on her status as, whichever way you see it, a child or an adult. The fact that in the wake of personal strife she's adopted a certain reserve, shuns publicity and seems uneasy when interacting with the media isn't a proof that she's reverted to an infant-like state. At her very lowest it might have been reasonably argued that Britney was a child, but she is on the rebound and I don't think it's possible to make the same argument in 2011. The recovery process is long and difficult, but the fact that she's intent making improvements, healing herself, repairing relationships with her family, and being a fit mother for her children, is, in my mind, an indication that Britney has matured greatly in the past few years and has become a real woman. As much as her troubles have changed her and robbed her of some of her more endearing qualities, I do believe the process picking herself back up has instilled her with the importance of responsibility. She has plenty of responsibilities, and she takes care of them like an adult.
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A woman manages her own finances.
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