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News: Bullies Cheered Jamey's Death
Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Originally posted by Chunk
Suicide is never a solution. Even a 14-year old kid knows that. 9/10 people who tried to commit suicide showed regret in what they did, because often one day after the attempt, they realize how stupid it would've been if they really succeeded in what they were trying to do.
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No, not everybody knows that. And actually, in most cases, people truly believe that suicide is the only solution. Most people that I know don't express regret for attempting it. It's more so a feeling of shame and embarrassment.
If only Jamey's attempt would've failed and he could have got the help he needed.
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Member Since: 10/5/2010
Posts: 11,469
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Originally posted by Chunk
Suicide is never a solution. Even a 14-year old kid knows that. 9/10 people who tried to commit suicide showed regret in what they did, because often one day after the attempt, they realize how stupid it would've been if they really succeeded in what they were trying to do.
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I never said it was a solution. It's NEVER the solution. But not everyone thinks like you. Some 14 year olds know that ain't the solution but others who are being bullied constantly everyday do think that's the solution. They're not thinking straight once there in that problem, obcourse when they get out of it they see Suicide as a dumb idea, but the kid just thought was the way to go. As sad as it is, it's the truth.
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Member Since: 6/20/2010
Posts: 15,376
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
I find it strange she was at a homecoming dance enjoying life right after her brother's wake.
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People deal with things, such as closure differently. I think instead of crying and sobbing over the loss of her brother, she decided to have a bit of fun and get her mind off it all by going to a dance.
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Member Since: 1/1/2011
Posts: 10,372
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Originally posted by ManDown
Suicidal feelings are extremely hard to describe in words. I have attempted suicide several times in the past (before I received mental help, of course). When you reach that point, you feel like it is the only option you have left, like you've reached the end of the road. There is no rational thinking when you're going through severe depression. I feel for people who are wanting to end their life. It takes alot of courage to throw away such a precious thing. Though, the last thing you're thinking of at that point is how precious life really is. The person has no hope left. There is no light at the end of the tunnel. There is likely nobody rushing to save them, as most people who are genuinely suicidal won't talk about it while the thoughts are still in their head. At the end of the day, there is no way of stopping people from committing suicide. For some, it is their destiny; which is extremely sad. Bullying has such a huge impact on people's lives, especially at Jamey's age. I was bullied as well and I would say that it was one of the major things that pushed me over the edge. There needs to be more strict laws. We can't turn a blind eye to this.
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It's definitely a long and hard road, but everybody is capable of finding a way out of this. Even if it's small and insignificant things like watching some TV shows every weeks, that can give you a feeling of consistency.
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Member Since: 3/18/2011
Posts: 8,234
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Originally posted by ManDown
No, not everybody knows that. And actually, in most cases, people truly believe that suicide is the only solution. Most people that I know don't express regret for attempting it. It's more so a feeling of shame and embarrassment.
If only Jamey's attempt would've failed and he could have got the help he needed.
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Imagine what would have followed....
Those bullies could have made it even worse.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
Posts: 11,853
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Originally posted by Thisisit
Who's like that here?
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Originally posted by ManDown
Right?
There are several people, actually. I can't think of one specific person. But just look in No Holds Barred, for instance, and you will see people bullying the living hell out of others so they can feel better about themselves.
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All day everyday, the same people too.
I don't think they need to be called out, they are easy to spot in NHB...
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
Posts: 65,177
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And well duh... it's obvious that suicide isn't the solution. That's so redundant in this argument; this is something everyone with a right sense of mind knows. Of course people who ATTEMPT suicide but FAIL have chances to realize that it was stupid and to get help. Luckily, they failed.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
Posts: 5,259
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Originally posted by ManDown
There are several people, actually. I can't think of one specific person. But just look in No Holds Barred, for instance, and you will see people bullying the living hell out of others so they can feel better about themselves.
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Honestly, NHB isn't bullying. People go in there to insult and be insulted. It is, ultimately, a game. Real bullying is when you're scared to go to school, and/or fear for your safety.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
Posts: 28,420
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Originally posted by Chunk
It's definitely a long and hard road, but everybody is capable of finding a way out of this. Even if it's small and insignificant things like watching some TV shows every weeks, that can give you a feeling of consistency.
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I agree. But for some people, it's an endless cycle. I got out of it, but I have several family members who are well into their 30s and 40s and are visiting mental hospitals multiple times a year because of their suicidal thoughts. It's sad, honestly. But yes, you have to work your way out of it gradually. Most suicidal people are looking for a quick fix to their problems, though, and that's what they feel suicide will provide.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by Ra2
Imagine what would have followed....
Those bullies could have made it even worse.
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He wouldn't have gone to the same school anymore, most likely.
I was bullied horribly in the 6th grade, and my parents pulled me out and homeschooled me. I'm glad they did, because had I stayed in middle school, I probably would've grown to hate people as a whole. I wish more options were presented to kids/parents besides "tough out this completely unreasonable situation that's driving you to the point of depression and making you hate people and learning."
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Member Since: 9/25/2001
Posts: 26,816
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Originally posted by Thisisit
Honestly, NHB isn't bullying. People go in there to insult and be insulted. It is, ultimately, a game. Real bullying is when you're scared to go to school, and/or fear for your safety.
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It's cyber bullying.
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Member Since: 8/24/2010
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Originally posted by Chunk
I still don't get why he killed himself in the first place. I mean, that may be harsh, but I will probably never understand how anybody can commit suicide, when there are millions of people out there who die by accident and have no choice. He had a choice. There is always something to live for. No matter how cruel people were to him, his family loved him. I think it's very selfish what he did, because there are always situations in life where you don't see a light at the end of the tunnel, but that's life. Destiny decides when you're going to die. Bullying is just human nature, it will always be there.
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But isn't it selfish to say someone should have suffered for you, so that you won't have to?
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Originally posted by ManDown
I feel for people who are wanting to end their life. It takes alot of courage to throw away such a precious thing.
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This. I respect every single person who commits suicide. I don't think it's the way to go though.
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
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Originally posted by Oshiish
All day everyday, the same people too.
I don't think they need to be called out, they are easy to spot in NHB...
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Most of them are Bey stans.
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I have no words to describe how disgusting this **** is
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Originally posted by Ra2
Imagine what would have followed....
Those bullies could have made it even worse.
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It would have been absolutely terrible to deal with. Honestly, I wish that he would have either withdrawn from the school or attended a homeschool program.
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Originally posted by Oshiish
All day everyday, the same people too.
I don't think they need to be called out, they are easy to spot in NHB...
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Exactly.
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Originally posted by Thisisit
Honestly, NHB isn't bullying. People go in there to insult and be insulted. It is, ultimately, a game. Real bullying is when you're scared to go to school, and/or fear for your safety.
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I know that it isn't the same as, say, bullying in school. But it's still a form of bullying. I'm not saying that I'm not guilty of occasionally attacking people out of frustration, but some of the things that people say in NHB are appalling.
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Member Since: 3/23/2011
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by Rainbow
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Well, no one should go into NHB. I'm pretty sure each and every member on this board knows what they are getting into when going in there. I don't really consider that "cyber bullying" given that everyone who is against cyber bullying is in there day in and day out. If it is truly cyber bullying, then the administrator needs to close the thread altogether. Cyber bullying is almost unavoidable. NHB is certainly avoidable.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
Posts: 5,259
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Originally posted by Rainbow
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Nope, cyber-bullying is IRL bullying using electronic communication. If some random stranger on the internet calls you a fa ggot in NHB, who cares, really? But if someone you know, someone who knows you and your personality and what you look like, calls you something like that on facebook or on formspring, it feels pretty bad.
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Member Since: 1/1/2011
Posts: 10,372
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Originally posted by GabeEd
I never said it was a solution. It's NEVER the solution. But not everyone thinks like you. Some 14 year olds know that ain't the solution but others who are being bullied constantly everyday do think that's the solution. They're not thinking straight once there in that problem, obcourse when they get out of it they see Suicide as a dumb idea, but the kid just thought was the way to go. As sad as it is, it's the truth.
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And that's the reason why I don't understand it. It's not self-evident to grow old in life, so I just don't feel no compassion for people who commit suicide. It doesn't matter to me in which position they are mentally or physically. I know it sounds really pretentious, because I'm not in their position right now, but I already had some tough times too and I never even though about killing myself. Maybe it's because of my fear of death. Maybe it's because I believe in the sanctuary of life. But I'm very one-sided when it comes to the topic Suicide and especially bullying.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
Posts: 51,088
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Originally posted by ManDown
I'm not saying that I'm not guilty of occasionally attacking people out of frustration, but some of the things that people say in NHB are appalling.
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Not to mention the fact that the two that are *arguably* the most offensive lately are around the same age as these kids that are cheering about Jamey's suicide.
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