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Discussion: Do You Respect Nicki Minaj As An Artist?
Member Since: 6/9/2010
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Originally posted by Anthagio
The thing about Harajuku is that it doesn't look good on black girls in america...
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As subjective as you can get.
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All artists are essentially combined influences of other artists whether the be musicians, designers, stylists, actors, anything. True originality is a very rare occurance.
Everyone is influenced by someone and no-one is truly original all the time, you could find similarities amongst any artists. You find a formula that works and you run with it until you need a new one. Gaga summarized it very well in her library card article.
Nicki Minaj is not a blatant copy of anyone, she is combined influences of people she looked up to in her youth, people who have a good thing going and herself. All current celebrities end up imitating each other in some shape or form, it is the trickling down of a trend, eventually it reaches the general population...to an extent. Copying from one is plagiarizing, copying from many is what art has become. Watch her completely change for her next album.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by Anthagio
The thing about Harajuku is that it doesn't look good on black girls in america...
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Excuse me?
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Member Since: 4/2/2011
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Originally posted by Reed
She never said she was bisexual. Albeit, she never said she wasn't but she NEVER lied about it.
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http://www.afterellen.com/blog/trish...s-not-bisexual
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Jay
Did she, actually?
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As Dancehall said, I see no evidence that Stefani is bisexual - but she now says "just sexually."
Whatever, Gaga. I don't know why she thinks everyone gives a ****
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...Bisexual people don't look any different from the rest of the world. This idea that Gaga is not bisexual stems from the stigma that people have about bisexuality not existing. Gaga has had sex with women, this has been confirmed. I mean, we've seen pictures of Gaga making out with chicks. Nicki on the other hand said she was bi and then was like "I would never be with a girl."
Why Gaga was brought up is beyond me. I guess y'all have no valid arguments to come back with.
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
Excuse me?
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I think you should look up Harajuki. It's part of Japanese culture and you could argue that Nicki is appropriating Japanese culture in the name of getting attention.
This ****ing post was about whether or not you respect Nicki as an artist and y'all bitch at anyone who dare say no and give their reasoning? Time to grow up.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by Bea.
All artists are essentially combined influences of other artists whether the be musicians, designers, stylists, actors, anything. True originality is a very rare occurance.
Everyone is influenced by someone and no-one is truly original all the time, you could find similarities amongst any artists. You find a formula that works and you run with it until you need a new one. Gaga summarized it very well in her library card article.
Nicki Minaj is not a blatant copy of anyone, she is combined influences of people she looked up to in her youth, people who have a good thing going and herself. All current celebrities end up imitating each other in some shape or form, it is the trickling down of a trend, eventually it reaches the general population...to an extent. Copying from one is plagiarizing, copying from many is what art has become. Watch her completely change for her next album.
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Well said
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Originally posted by Anthagio
http://www.afterellen.com/blog/trish...s-not-bisexual
...Bisexual people don't look any different from the rest of the world.
She has had sex with women, this has been confirmed. Nicki on the other hand said she was bi and then was like "I would never be with a girl." We've seen pictures of Gaga making out with chicks.
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I sometimes wonder if it is bisexuality or just that they find women attractive or sexual fluidity. I think Gaga honestly finds women beautiful and attractive but I don't know if she would date one or have a relationship with one. Same for Nicki. The truth is we know nothing of their true sexuality or sexual past so they can say whatever they want. It helps different forms of sexuality become more acceptable, especially to the impressionable kids that are attracted to pop music.
Whether or not they are, they are raising awareness and acceptance. Like it or not celebrities have a huge influence on our generation and people that look up to them who may have been raised to find homosexuality or bisexuality 'evil' may change their minds.
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Member Since: 3/17/2011
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Originally posted by Bea.
All artists are essentially combined influences of other artists whether the be musicians, designers, stylists, actors, anything. True originality is a very rare occurance.
Everyone is influenced by someone and no-one is truly original all the time, you could find similarities amongst any artists. You find a formula that works and you run with it until you need a new one. Gaga summarized it very well in her library card article.
Nicki Minaj is not a blatant copy of anyone, she is combined influences of people she looked up to in her youth, people who have a good thing going and herself. All current celebrities end up imitating each other in some shape or form, it is the trickling down of a trend, eventually it reaches the general population...to an extent. Copying from one is plagiarizing, copying from many is what art has become. Watch her completely change for her next album.
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^^^^ I like you
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Member Since: 12/18/2010
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Of course I do.
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Originally posted by Reed
So this is why you made the thread huh? To shine the light on people who "blatantly" copy gaga (i.e: nicki) as opposed to those who try their best to make the copying as subtle as possible (i.e: Ke$ha)? So Gaga is what is eating at your mind.
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Nice spin.
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
Sis, Who lied to you?
Harajuku is a street fashion, there is nothing finesse about it.
You just get to be colorful, free, & however you choose to express yourself.
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Originally posted by Dancehall Queen
You sure?
I mean, the first page of results on Google Images for Harajuku.
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I suppose it's subjective.
In my opinion, Harajuku street fashion -- keyword, fashion -- is the
mixing with the practical and impractical and creating a cohesive piece, not
throwing everything on and being "wacky colorful." There are no rules to
Harajuku, but I believe, the people who really know what they're
doing, are doing it with thought and finesse:
These are example of true Harajuku fashion, in my opinion,
as opposed to Nicki Minaj and your street example.
...Vin
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Originally posted by YvesBeaumont
^^^^ I like you
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It is rare I say something worth liking. So thank you
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Vin is such a flaw free poster, idgaf what anyone says.
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Member Since: 6/9/2010
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Originally posted by Anthagio
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Im referring to what she said and didnt say up until the point from where she cleared things up with the media. Up until that point she never admitted to being a bisexual. The media threw that label on her because she'd always joke about showing more love to her female fans as opposed to the males and "stealing cassie away from diddy" and what not. If you want to hit me with sources find me a source where she legitimately admits to being bisexual.
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Member Since: 7/14/2009
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I have no quarrels with her.
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Member Since: 3/17/2011
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except he DEFINED harajuku at first, and now it's an opinon.. =))
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Member Since: 6/22/2011
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I mean pink friday was a great cd but she is rap one min then po the other i ms. Old nicki
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Here is my POV and I will probably get attacked for it but I really don't give a damn. I respect Nicki Minaj as an artist the same way I respect Lady Gaga as an artist. Nicki is basically taking the same path that Gaga took with The Fame to build her fanbase so they will follow her as her career goes on, I feel that with some of her looks Nicki is trying way too hard to be 'weird' and 'outside of the box' but since I don't stan for her I try not to look at her in such a OCD manner and I try to keep it basically strictly music, I feel like as Nicki's career goes on she will go more into depth with her rap and take it back to how she was before she became 'mainstream' Bea basically spilled the real tea though.
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Why shouldn't' we respect her? SHe has risen to the top of a male-dominated industry and earned the respect of her peers.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anthagio
http://www.afterellen.com/blog/trish...s-not-bisexual
...Bisexual people don't look any different from the rest of the world. This idea that Gaga is not bisexual stems from the stigma that people have about bisexuality not existing. Gaga has had sex with women, this has been confirmed. I mean, we've seen pictures of Gaga making out with chicks. Nicki on the other hand said she was bi and then was like "I would never be with a girl."
Why Gaga was brought up is beyond me. I guess y'all have no valid arguments to come back with.
I think you should look up Harajuki. It's part of Japanese culture and you could argue that Nicki is appropriating Japanese culture in the name of getting attention.
This ****ing post was about whether or not you respect Nicki as an artist and y'all bitch at anyone who dare say no and give their reasoning? Time to grow up.
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You brought race into this & that had absolutely nothing to do with it. I don't care if you're black, yellow, red whatever, you are free to represent any culture of fashion.
Fashion is a form of expressionism, has nothing to do with the color of your skin.
kii.
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