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Music News: Billboard uses "double counting" trick for Katy Perry
Member Since: 10/30/2010
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
Umbrella would have gone #1 regardless.
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I agree but it doesn't change the fact that they repressed the **** out of it to guarantee the #1.
Who's to say Katy wouldn't have gone #1 regardless with LFN? What if she had performed on the season finale of AGT? Or did something huge at the VMAs?
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Member Since: 9/24/2008
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Originally posted by Jennifer
I don't see what's wrong with it. She's just playing the game. And it's just a record that nobody outside message board people will know about it.
And Rihanna has manipulated the charts more than pretty much all artists. Let's not forget that she ALWAYS use to repress her singles to guarantee jumps to #1. SOS, Umbrella, and Take A Bow all got to #1 that way. Repressing was fairly common, but she did it more often and more intensely (waited till airplay was high enough) than everybody else.
GaGa's 99 cent album thing is probably THE worst from the past year....
People need to get over it. The charts are just a game.
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SOS, Umbrella, Take A Bow, Live Your Life, Only Girl, What's My Name? and S&M were all manipulated. 7 out of ten. 
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Member Since: 10/30/2010
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Originally posted by skyler_
definitely was not like this in the 80s 90s and early 00s.
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Oh yes it was. Mariah is the Queen of chart manipulation. I'm not gonna get into that.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Celestial
SOS, Umbrella, Take A Bow, Live Your Life, Only Girl, What's My Name? and S&M were all manipulated. 7 out of ten. |
Well TBH, I would also include Rude Boy as it was gaining in airplay before being released digitally. That's how it made huge strides up Billboard and topped the charts in 4 weeks
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Originally posted by Celestial
SOS, Umbrella, Take A Bow, Live Your Life, Only Girl, What's My Name? and S&M were all manipulated. 7 out of ten. |
SOS, Umbrella, LYL are legit #1's. The rest..
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Originally posted by skyler_
those songs went #1 due to discounting.
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A song skyrocketed to no. 2 after it discounted its single to 49cents back in 2001.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by jasons0101
It's not just manipulation, it's also deception. The deception is in saying that two different versions of one song are exactly the same version.
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By your logic, radio edits should be counted separately, and that's not something I tend to agree with.
However, I would fully support remixes like these to chart independently, only because of how it's being used today.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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 I've read and saw I'm **** today, but reading Katy Perry will be a damn legend takes the cake.
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Member Since: 3/6/2011
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Originally posted by Jennifer
Oh yes it was. Mariah is the Queen of chart manipulation. I'm not gonna get into that.
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Member Since: 10/30/2010
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I'd say SOS, Umbrella, Take A Bow, Only Girl, and S&M were all manipulated #1s. The other 5 were fine.
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Member Since: 6/7/2009
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
I just don't like the remix trend because it downgrades the quality of the song to me to get to a higher position. After I hear a horrible remix of a song, even the original doesn't sound as good as it used to me. The other methods to get to #1 don't downgrade the quality of the actual song.
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Agreed.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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Originally posted by Celestial
SOS, Umbrella, Take A Bow, Live Your Life, Only Girl, What's My Name? and S&M were all manipulated. 7 out of ten. |
Who was releasing their songs immediatley to digital retailers back in 2008 or 2007 though? It was very uncommon.
I just don't look at supression the same way I do the remix trend that Rihanna has made very popular in pop.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Originally posted by Jennifer
Oh yes it was. Mariah is the Queen of chart manipulation. I'm not gonna get into that.
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she earned her #1s just like any other female artist did . lets not get into that.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Jennifer
Oh yes it was. Mariah is the Queen of chart manipulation. I'm not gonna get into that.
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But her 18 number 1s ain't complaining....and neither are the record books
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Originally posted by skyler_
she earned her #1s just like any other female artist did . lets not get into that.
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Girl please. 
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Originally posted by RatedG
But her 18 number 1s ain't complaining....and neither are the record books
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he doesnt know what he talking about . she never did a last minute remix to make her song go #1 while katy and rihanna has.
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Member Since: 9/13/2009
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Originally posted by Celestial
SOS, Umbrella, Take A Bow, Live Your Life, Only Girl, What's My Name? and S&M were all manipulated. 7 out of ten. |
Can a Senior Member be banned?
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Originally posted by Celestial
SOS, Umbrella, Take A Bow, Live Your Life, Only Girl, What's My Name? and S&M were all manipulated. 7 out of ten. |
Download suppression isn't chart manipulation. Well, it is in the UK, but it's not the same in the US. That's how things work, or used to, in the music industry. Before the Digital Age songs were send to radio stations for them to spin it, and promotion would follow (Music video and etc..). Def Jam, being Def Jam, suck at everything they do, so that's the result of that.
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Then that's sadder.
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