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Celeb News: Tony Bennett: "Lady Gaga's going to become as big as Elvis!"
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
I can agree with this. I just think it's wrong for Jordan to say there aren't thousands of other artists out there who couldn't do what GaGa could do given the chance. I respect the woman, but it makes no sense to me for anyone to be so blindly devoted to her that they can't recognize a bogus claim about her artistry. And all celebrities are sycophants--Tony Bennett is no exception. That's common logic.
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It's not wrong for me to say anything. I say what I think + how I feel, just like you have.
I do believe that not many could do what Gaga has done in her career even if they were given the chance.
She has that special "it-factor," and if she didn't then she already would've faded after The Fame era.
I'm not blindly devoted to her, I've been devoted to her for quite some time now and I know what kind of artist she is and I respect that. Some people are quick to jump to the assumption that since she is a pop artist that has taken influence from older legends, she has no artistry.
To that I say bull ****ing ****. Her lyrics are signature.
You could argue that her sound and looks aren't exactly signature, but she's definitely done things that are original moments within her career whether you respect her or not.
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Originally posted by Rainbows
Nobody's hits are D.I.Y. projects, so I guess that means nobody has talent. [/font][/center]
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No, what I was saying is that if other artists had access to producers like those, they could have just as easily been famous too.
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
No, what I was saying is that if other artists had access to producers like those, they could have just as easily been famous too.
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Girl, RedOne was a nobody when Gaga worked with him. Let's not pretend she found her jump to fame with a Dr. Luke.
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
I can agree with this. I just think it's wrong for Jordan to say there aren't thousands of other artists out there who couldn't do what GaGa could do given the chance.
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Sing as well as her? Sure. Write catchy hits? Possibly, but she has a good ear for hooks. Successfully exploit the trappings of the industry to catapult herself into the biggest pop star in the world in a matter of months from her first exposure to a wide audience? No.
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Originally posted by Rainbows
It's not wrong for me to say anything. I say what I think + how I feel, just like you have.
I do believe that not many could do what Gaga has done in her career even if they were given the chance.
She has that special "it-factor," and if she didn't then she already would've faded after The Fame era.
I'm not blindly devoted to her, I've been devoted to her for quite some time now and I know what kind of artist she is and I respect that. Some people are quick to jump to the assumption that since she is a pop artist that has taken influence from older legends, she has no artistry.
To that I say bull ****ing ****. Her lyrics are signature.
You could argue that her sound and looks aren't exactly signature, but she's definitely done things that are original moments within her career whether you respect her or not.
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I agree with you a lot actually. IMO, it's never been an "it-factor" that kept her famous though, it's her repeated use of gimmicks. She was "obsessively opposed to the typical" at a time when most other pop stars were trying to be as conventional as possible which definitely helped her stand out and she's always been hell-bent to prove that she can play an instrument and sing live which has helped her credibility but I just don't see anything necessarily talented in any of that, per se. /rant
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The BTW era nullifies Bennett's claim.
I would have been more open to agreeing with him if she'd succeeded at what she set out to do: put out a an album of risky songs that stand for everything she believes in as an artist and still make them work on the charts so they stand up to everything she formerly achieved as a pop star.
It's not an easy balance to achieve but if you're going to make such a bold statement about her, then she should have been able to do it.
Edit: still admirable that she tried, though. The likes of Katy & Ke$ha would never dare.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
The BTW era nullifies Bennett's claim.
I would have been more open to agreeing with him if she'd succeeded at what she set out to do: put out a an album of risky songs that stand for everything she believes in as an artist and still make them work on the charts so they stand up to everything she formerly achieved as a pop star.
It's not an easy balance to achieve but if you're going to make such a bold statement about her, then she should have been able to do it.
Edit: still admirable that she tried, though. The likes of Katy & Ke$ha would never dare.
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I feel like her chart performance/album performance/riskiness/public response are all following very closely in the footsteps of Madonna, whatever one may think of that comparison.
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Those are such a huge words maybe she will, maybe not. The funny thing is that all of you act as if you know about the work this man's done, if he was praising Brit, Katy, Rihanna or somebody else you would be like Tony who? so biased
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
I feel like her chart performance/album performance/riskiness/public response are all following very closely in the footsteps of Madonna, whatever one may think of that comparison.
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Agreed!
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
I feel like her chart performance/album performance/riskiness/public response are all following very closely in the footsteps of Madonna, whatever one may think of that comparison.
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She stays on Madge's ***.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
She stays on Madge's ***.
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Luckily, she's more respected in the fashion world and seems to fit in well with lots of rock 'n roll legends. I think she'll be fine.
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Originally posted by UnusualBoy
Those are such a huge words maybe she will, maybe not. The funny thing is that all of you act as if you know about the work this man's done, if he was praising Brit, Katy, Rihanna or somebody else you would be like Tony who? so biased
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How do you know?
In this case the Monsters are being happy... If he said this about Britney, the Brit stans would go crazy now...
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After the Beatles, Elvis was the biggest force the music industry has ever seen. The analogy is preposterous.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
She stays on Madge's ***.
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Give credit where it's due, Nicole. GaGa is the world's #1 Madonna tribute act.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
The BTW era nullifies Bennett's claim.
I would have been more open to agreeing with him if she'd succeeded at what she set out to do: put out a an album of risky songs that stand for everything she believes in as an artist and still make them work on the charts so they stand up to everything she formerly achieved as a pop star.
It's not an easy balance to achieve but if you're going to make such a bold statement about her, then she should have been able to do it.
Edit: still admirable that she tried, though. The likes of Katy & Ke$ha would never dare.
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She Tried Yes , But She Didnt Fail
She Just Didn't Meet Most Of Our Expectations With Single Selections (So Far)
I Am More Than Satisified With 4+ MIllion Albums Sold After A Little Less Than 3 Months Though. It's Most Than What I Was Expecting To Be Honest
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Originally posted by Celestial
Give credit where it's due, Nicole. GaGa is the world's #1 Madonna tribute act.
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Only for those whose knowledge of pop music history is limited to Madonna/MJ, which I understand is many, so I see you.
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Originally posted by Celestial
Give credit where it's due, Nicole. GaGa is the world's #1 Madonna tribute act.
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I always do. Xtina flat-out bombed with her Madonna tribute. Gaga just faded.
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
I feel like her chart performance/album performance/riskiness/public response are all following very closely in the footsteps of Madonna, whatever one may think of that comparison.
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Not really. Gaga's on her second album and she's already taking Erotica-sized risks. Madonna always (with the exception of Erotica) made sure that she had commercialism to back her up. Like a Prayer was the riskiest song/video of her career...but it still had SMASH written all over it. It's like Gaga thinks she can run around and do/release whatever the **** she wants and people will always eat the **** up. Madonna's much, much smarter than her in that regard. She very rarely strayed away from what she was supposed to do as a popstar.
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Originally posted by Icing
Not really. Gaga's on her second album and she's already taking Erotica-sized risks. Madonna always (with the exception of Erotica) made sure that she had commercialism to back her up. Like a Prayer was the riskiest song/video of her career...but it still had SMASH written all over it. It's like Gaga thinks she can run around and do/release whatever the **** she wants and people will always eat the **** up. Madonna's much, much smarter than her in that regard. She very rarely strayed away from what she was supposed to do as a popstar.
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I've been saying this since May when the entirety of BTW was released. The moment I heard it, I knew it was the beginning of the end.
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