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News: "Being gay is part of Satan"
Member Since: 1/8/2011
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People (im not attacking anyone here, im just talking about some people in general) always say
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ohh it's againts my religion, blah blah blah
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and that's the point. YOUR religion. not mine. You want to believe you want, whatever, but how does your beliefs affect mine?
and secondly
how does a gay couple getting married AT ALL affect YOUR life?
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Member Since: 10/5/2006
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Originally posted by JungleDisturbia
Well, I'm technically a Jehovah's Witness (hopefully you have heard of that religion) because my whole family is. But I'm bi, and because of what Jehovah's Witnesses think, and also other religions I have encountered at school etc, I have lost my belief in the religion. I have learned to accept that this is who I am. I'm not 18 yet, so technically I am still religious, but as soon as I am turning 18 I am "officially" becoming Atheist.
But yeah, religion does impact my life. And its like being in a group of people where I'm not accepted. I hate that, I really do. Not that I have come out, but I know that the real me doesn't belong, you know?
Bahaha sorry, I have just like vented my story into this post. In keeping with what you said, I guess it might be people with those beliefs that are stubborn and have to use something like the Bible to prove their point.
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My heart goes out to you.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Megan3474
The New Testament is what matters and is what is important to Christians.
I suggest you read Matthew, God makes it clear that the OT is not to be pushed under the rug because you don't follow it anymore, and to my main point, you worship a God who thought it was ok to kill gays because they made love, there is no way around this, I don't care if he decided to make a son then kill him and say you're all saved, YOUR GOD thought it was ok to kill homosexuals because thw world was already tarnished and full of sin...
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I'm not going to get into an extensive argument over this ok? God makes it clear to not push the OT under the rug because he wants his followers to know of the world before Jesus came down. And when did GOD HIMSELF ever say those words? It may be represented in the bible because it is recorded history but that doesn't mean that God himself thought that. How can you even begin to decipher what god thinks or does?
Anyway, I have already clarified my points over and over again in this thread and I'm done.
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My heart goes out to you.
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Aww thats so sweet!  Thankyou.
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
I'd gladly explain those 2 to you because they're easily explainable. The first one simply states that one should not treat man and woman the same. It's not promoting sexism, it is simply stating that one should treat women like ladies and men as gentlemen. The second says the exact same thing.
BUT some homophobic people who are looking for a way to be "right" about their homophobia use these quotes as evidence that they are right when they aren't.
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 you're reaching tbh. It might be easy to interpret the word "lie" as treatment in English, because of its spelling, but as far as I know in other languages the words in those passages of the bible don't have any other connotations besides sexual ones.
I'm baffled how sexual minorities that are so stigmatized thanks to organized religions can identify as religious. Its fine if you believe in god, but being a fervent follower of a certain religion...idk, it gets me confused.
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Why do we pay atention to this person anyway?
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Member Since: 4/4/2011
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
you're reaching tbh. It might be easy to interpret the word "lie" as treatment in English, because of its spelling, but as far as I know in other languages the words in those passages of the bible don't have any other connotations besides sexual ones.
I'm baffled how sexual minorities that are so stigmatized thanks to organized religions can identify as religious. Its fine if you believe in god, but being a fervent follower of a certain religion...idk, it gets me confused. |
Preach!
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There are many, many Christians that still discriminate against homosexuals based upon clobber verses included in both the Old and New Testaments. And there are also many, many mainline Christian churches that teach dogma based upon principles espoused in Old Testament books. Hello--think of how many people read passages from Song of Solomon before marriage or base their financial decisions off of directives provided by the book of Proverbs. The idea of Biblical tithing--giving 10% of your income to the church--is also a directive that originated in the Old Testament.
The idea that the Old Testament has been written off by the mainstream Christian faith as inferior to the New Testament is just plain wrong. Most Southern Baptist churches, for example, teach that the ancient writers of the Bible in its entirety were divinely inspired by the perfect God to create His "god-breathed" Word for His followers. The Old Testament contains the Old Covenant, pre-Jesus with heavy Judaic influence, while the New Testament speaks of the New Covenant espoused by Jesus. Christians today do follow the New Covanent, but that doesn't mean that the Old Testament is any less revered. Just because we don't give offerings to pacify an angry god doesn't mean that the god of the Old and New Testaments is any different.
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right...
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Being homosexual is not a sin. It is the homosexual act (same sex relationship) that is wicked in the eyes of God.
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Originally posted by fabbriche
Being homosexual is not a sin. It is the homosexual act (same sex relationship) that is wicked in the eyes of God.
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But being homosexual and not committing homosexual acts defeats the purpose of being a homosexual. 
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Reason #6371828 why the Bible should not be taken literally. At the time, men to lie with men sexually was just seen as counter productive to the population. In 2011, Earth's population is doing just fine. People act like the more gays there are, the world's numbers will drop drastically. Aren't we expecting to increase drastically, despite the "rise of homosexuals?" People of that time interpreted things relative to them during that specific time. It's about time Christians like her get on board.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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It's okay, she's justifying my relationship with Satan even more. I'm here for it. 
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People don't go and stone their kids today when the little brats talk back to them though.
Disobedience is a sin as well. 
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People don't go and stonr their kids today when the little brats talk back to them though.
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Well maybe they should
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
Stop. Just because one religious person said something like this does not mean all religious people are like this. I myself am incredibly religious and I am the least homophobic person possible. Just don't say things like this.
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Member Since: 10/5/2010
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People don't go and stone their kids today when the little brats talk back to them though.
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Preach it  Also I just don't get how God would condem Homosexual's for just loving/sleeping with another man. It just doesn't make sense to me. Isn't God about not judging others and lovong everyone equally. Either way, who are we to judge? How do gay people affect anybody in any way? People should just live their own life and not jump on everyone trying to "help" them when themselves are the one's who have the real problems.
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Member Since: 11/7/2010
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Oh really? I honestly don't believe in the Bible whatsoever. I couldn't care less if it's the "Word of God". I will only believe in the "Word" that everyone is equal, & love your neighbor as you would yourself. So if God would like to strike me down & send me to hell right now, he could do it. Me & mah gurll Satan gonna have a party  But if God's message is a message of love, at the end of the day, I will believe God will still love anyone for who they are & what they have done 
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