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Discussion: Are Joanne album numbers impressive?
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Originally posted by istan4badgalriri
Eh we'll see if Joanne's sales will be as consistent as Anti's after week 8:
And Rih sold another 12,000 last week.
Hits don't really sell albums: look at 7 Years, Work From Home, Pillowtalk, Panda, Treat You Better, My House etc.
+ "Work" didn't do that well on Pop radio (peaked at #9), and we know Pop/HAC airplay boosts sales (older audience), while Urban/Rhythmic airplay tends to boost streams more than sales (younger audience).
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Hits really do sell albums if people are interested in your body of work and you are an established artist. See the talented Lady Gaga. People bouught her singles AND her albums because they were good. Now people buy her albums without any hits on the radio. And not you comparing an established artist like Rihanna with some newcomers. Didn't know she is on the level of Zayn, 5H, Shawn Mendes and the one that sings 7 years. Wow, Navy. Good to know. I'm gonna use it for future references.
EDIT: and now Joanne is selling better than Anti because of the Q4 release? What's your next excuse, Navy? Let's talk about how Rihanna's songs are spammed 24/7 by the radios just like that. People should know she released an album and should buy it but for some reason they don't even after hit after hit after hit.
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Taking everything into consideration, yes. She is definitely doing fine.
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Originally posted by Rusty
Why on Earth are Rihanna fans so angry at Lady Gaga's album doing fine without any hits?
OT: Yes, it's doing well.
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I was just wondering that, they keep on making threads about Gaga. What the hell did she do to piss them off this much?
And then they have the nerve to act like Navy is the most chill fanbase.
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Originally posted by PrinceLightning
Hits really do sell albums if people are interested in your body of work and you are an established artist. See the talented Lady Gaga. People bouught her singles AND her albums because they were good. Now people buy her albums without any hits on the radio. And not you comparing an established artist like Rihanna with some newcomers. Didn't know she is on the level of Zayn, 5H, Shawn Mendes and the one that sings 7 years. Wow, Navy. Good to know. I'm gonna use it for future references.
EDIT: and now Joanne sells better than Anti because of the Q4 release? What's your next excuse, Navy? Let's talk about how Rihanna's songs are spammed 24/7 by the radios just like that. People should know she released an album and should buy it but for some reason they don't even after hit after hit after hit
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The fight for album sale prestige.
Bless you.
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Originally posted by vuelve88
The fight for album sale prestige.
Bless you.
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It's not about album sale prestige but if we're really talking about that because of the thread let's put the cards on the table and be correct and objective.
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Originally posted by Rusty
Why on Earth are Rihanna fans so angry at Lady Gaga's album doing fine without any hits?
OT: Yes, it's doing well.
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nah...Rihanna fans angry about Gaga numbers you cannot be serious. The only time I've seen rihanna fans "angry" or mad is when is Beyonce related because well she is the Queen.
I am by no mean a "Rihanna fan" I am a casual listener and I do like her but anyway I can assure you that they have nothing to be "angry" about when it comes to Lady Gaga cuz...well Their fav is still relevant 10 yrs into ha career
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Originally posted by RobynFKA
I am by no mean a "Rihanna fan" I am a casual listener and I do like her but anyway I can assure you that they have nothing to be "angry" about when it comes to Lady Gaga cuz...well Their fav is still relevant 10 yrs into ha career
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Then why do they act like that, RobynFKA?
You guys are so bitter and shady it's almost embarassing.
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Yes , consistent sales, halftime show, talent, respect, the girls are shook
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Originally posted by RobynFKA
I am by no mean a "Rihanna fan" I am a casual listener and I do like her but anyway I can assure you that they have nothing to be "angry" about when it comes to Lady Gaga cuz...well Their fav is still relevant 10 yrs into ha career
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Glad that my irrelevant fave is playing the 2017 SuperBowl.
Stay tuned!
Joanne numbers are very impressive. Can't wait for the SB effect.
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Originally posted by PrinceLightning
It's not about album sale prestige but if we're really talking about that because of the thread let's put the cards on the table and be correct and objective.
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You're battling over Rihanna album sales.
Prayers.
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Originally posted by RobynFKA
nah...Rihanna fans angry about Gaga numbers you cannot be serious. The only time I've seen rihanna fans "angry" or mad is when is Beyonce related because well she is the Queen.
I am by no mean a "Rihanna fan" I am a casual listener and I do like her but anyway I can assure you that they have nothing to be "angry" about when it comes to Lady Gaga cuz...well Their fav is still relevant 10 yrs into ha career
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This post, edited to add the top section later on, is the definition of seethe
OT: Take my hand, slay, Joanne.
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I honestly don't know.
I don't know much about streaming and selling numbers and I never look at the charts. Couldn't tell you which songs are top 10 right now, not even in my country.
If I had to guess I think it also depends on the factors around the release, for example did someone make lots of promo or not, are people buying CDs in general right now etc.
but yeah good question I don't know
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Originally posted by ItalianMonsterLM
Then why do they act like that, RobynFKA?
You guys are so bitter and shady it's almost embarassing.
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The GAG....Monsters calling Navy bitter...Did you forget the bitterness of your fandom over Beyonce's consistency in relevance. Or your fandom's prediction that Taylor's transition to full POP was going to be a flop move... Com'on stop acting up here, we all know how the monsters will react if Katy Perry does even one unit less than Joanne.
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Gurl she didn't sell that much ww, who you're trying to fool? But her US sales are very good, yes, i think her fan base is proving to be loyal in despite of her career's shenanigans.
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No, they are not. Especially if you consider the relevance of an artist by their streaming numbers in 2016 which are part of the overall sales.
Lady Gaga went straight from modern contemporary act to the sound of a veteran one way too early in her career. Not relevant for the young audience, not played on the radio, relying on her core fanbase and soccer mums with lots of televized promo spots. She should have waited a few more years before attempting this.
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Yes and no.
No for a Lady Gaga album. Yes for a country album. and Yes because the two singles she released are the two worst songs of her career.
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Originally posted by TipToe
Gurl she didn't sell that much ww, who you're trying to fool? But her US sales are very good, yes, i think her fan base is proving to be loyal in despite of her career's shenanigans.
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Yes, she did sell that much worldwide
Week 1: 314,000
Week 2: 104,000
Week 3: 59,000
Week 4: 48,000
Week 5: 49,000
Week 6: 45,000
Week 7: 43,000
Week 8: 45,000
Total: 707,000
Week 9:
+27,000 in the US
+ 8,500 in the UK
The worldwide numbers are well above 750,000 when they will be revealed on Thursday.
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In this climate they're decent.
But it's funny how the same people who were bashing ANTI's sales are the same ones who find Joanne's impressive now.
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Originally posted by RobynFKA
The GAG....Monsters calling Navy bitter...Did you forget the bitterness of your fandom over Beyonce's consistency in relevance. Or your fandom's prediction that Taylor's transition to full POP was going to be a flop move... Com'on stop acting up here, we all know how the monsters will react if Katy Perry does even one unit less than Joanne.
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Right. Are they really trying to pretend that they didn't drag Rise, Make Me, Glory, or Anti when they were released?
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Originally posted by ontherocks
No, they are not. Especially if you consider the relevance of an artist by their streaming numbers in 2016 which are part of the overall sales.
Lady Gaga went straight from modern contemporary act to the sound of a veteran one way too early in her career. Not relevant for the young audience, not played on the radio, relying on her core fanbase and soccer mums with lots of televized promo spots. She should have waited a few more years before attempting this.
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The GAG is that she did not attempt anything, it's just the result of her "bizarre" debut.
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