[Idontcareaboutyou]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Even if he hadn't killed people he still wouldn't be someone worth listening to.

That doesn't matter. Being someone worth listening to (who judges ?) isn't required to be allowed to express yourself.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by slw84

Do you realize that comments can be taken into whatever context people want to view them in. You proved my point with that excuse you gave...and now she was forced to make those decision.

Mmkay.

It seems as though you support those 4 people beating up someone for having a different opinion. is this true?

Show me where I said I support physical violence

[T.C]

Originally posted by rihannafan

No, it isn't at all. Everyone who voted is 18+, they were present during the whole campaign.They heard all the instigating speeches. They followed Trump's war on women, Mexicans, Muslims, gays etc. If you voted for him, you were fully conscious of what you're voting for and therefore deserved to be thoroughly shamed and spited. The same goes for anyone who defends him.

'Rape Melania'

Wasn't this a big trend on twitter?

Omg the Angel Hillary supporters

[rihannafan]

Ideologies and opinions are VERY different things. Seriously, grab a book.

[slw84]

Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou

Maybe you didn't notice that Dylan Roof killed people which is completely out of the scope of free speech.

What ? That's complete nonsense. Millions of people weren't suddenly ill in the 1930s.

LOL...it's to the point where many will come up with any excuse to justify poor judgment and behavior.

Originally posted by Dracarys

Disgusting.

And ATRL clapping... eww..

Yet many want their opinions and perspectives to be echo'd not realizing their POVs are so off based in terms of strong ethical value.

This would not be the case if 4 trump supporters bashed a gay man.

[FBF]

Originally posted by Communion

Technology does not exist in socialist countries?

This also falls into the fallacy into thinking technology is only avaliable to the most elite when the way we've studied and seen material and hands-on wealth shows a change. Poor people are more likely to possess immediate wealth: smart phones, computers, etc. Wealthy people are more likely to own institutional wealth reserved for them: stocks, property, etc. Poor people's wealth or "material objects" cannot, for most cases, reproduce them wealth. Rich people's wealth is unique in its ability to reproduce itself, grow exponentially, and require massive amounts of wealth to procure.

We can make a distinction between Crony Capitalism as a harmful institution vs Capitalism as a theory of economics, but your lack of nuance on American class dynamics shows that such distinctions wouldn't matter to you, so I think you may need to focus less on the US and the nazis literally growing in your own backyard, dear.

How are smartphones, computers, etc manufactured ?

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou

That doesn't matter. Being someone worth listening to (who judges ?) isn't required to be allowed to express yourself.

Well you can express them but don't be surprised when they come with circumstances.

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by T.C

'Rape Melania'

Wasn't this a big trend on twitter?

Omg the Angel Hillary supporters

That is not the ****ing point. Clinton never used rape in her campaign. Trump actually did it.

[slw84]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Show me where I said I support physical violence

It was a question...unless you were just going off topic to purposely not cover the actual thread topic.
Are you acknowledging that the behavior is unacceptable or are you claiming it is justified because it was a Trump Supporter?

Asking for a friend...

[Latinazza]

To engage in violent acts, simply because someone else has a different view or political affiliation, is unacceptable.

Violent actions and reactions are only justifiable as a response to an actual threat of endangerment. If a Trump follower attacks you then you should defend yourself, but to attack an individual simply because he supported the Donald is illegal and stupid.

[Idontcareaboutyou]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Well you can express them but don't be surprised when they come with circumstances.

If those circumstances are being physically assaulted, then no. You are entitled not to be attacked for expressing an opinion.

[T.C]

Originally posted by rihannafan

That is not the ****ing point. Clinton never used rape in her campaign. Trump actually did it.

So by this logic, applying your generalisation, all her supporters SHOULD be angels right? They are not. This means that your generalisation of Trumps fans are most likely off too.

[loveless]

Originally posted by rihannafan

No, it isn't at all. Everyone who voted is 18+, they were present during the whole campaign.They heard all the instigating speeches. If you voted for him, you were fully conscious of what you're voting for and therefore deserved to be thoroughly shamed and spited. The same goes for anyone who defends him.

You're assuming a lot.

Originally posted by rihannafan

they were present during the whole campaign.

No they were not

Originally posted by rihannafan

They followed Trump's war on women, Mexicans, Muslims, gays etc.

No they didn't

Originally posted by rihannafan;37184019I

f you voted for him, you were fully conscious of what you're voting for

No you were not

Originally posted by rihannafan

and therefore deserved to be thoroughly shamed and spited.

No they don't, and this is why generalizing is dangerous.

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by T.C

So by this logic, applying your generalisation, all her supporters SHOULD be angels right? They are not. This means that your generalisation of Trumps fans are most likely off too.

[Idontcareaboutyou]

Originally posted by rihannafan

Ideologies and opinions are VERY different things. Seriously, grab a book.

Obviously. All opinions are not ideologies, but all ideologies are opinions.

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by loveless

You're assuming a lot.



No they were not



No they didn't



No you were not



No they don't, and this is why generalizing is dangerous.

How is that an assumption? If you're going to vote for someone, you should know who you're voting for. What are you defending exactly?

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by slw84

It was a question...unless you were just going off topic to purposely not cover the actual thread topic.
Are you acknowledging that the behavior is unacceptable or are you claiming it is justified because it was a Trump Supporter?

Asking for a friend...

I don't remember there being a question in the OP so I'm not sure what you're trying to do here.

And does that friend live in loonyville by any chance?

[rihannafan]

Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou

Obviously. All opinions are not ideologies, but all ideologies are opinions.

That isn't true. An opinion is infallible.

[AccioMiley]

This type of **** is happening on both sides and its wrong on both sides

[Communion]

Originally posted by FBF

How are smartphones, computers, etc manufactured ?

So you rather indict the poor worker in their consumption of basic technologies often required in seeking and tackling upward mobility (computer literacy etc. is often one of the basic skills required in any degree-requiring office job) and blame them for the way crony capitalism has raped, colonized, and exploited the lands and people in foreign markets? Instead of.. just blaming the crony capitalists themselves?

In your views, the poor American is just as at fault for the exploitation of foreign workers as the billionaire crooked capitalists (ironically literally Donald Trump) doing the exploiting is?

It feels like you have a lot of built-up anger, bitterness & hatred of the poor you need to work through.