[FattMatt]

Get over it, Blacks can be just as racist towards whites, see Kanye

[Mezter]

I agree. ATRL is such a hypocritical place

[Eaten By Lions]

Institutionalized racism affects more people, but homophobia is largely more accepted than racism. In any case they are two very different animals so while comparisons can be drawn within the two, those forms of oppression have their own universe so it's dumb when people get heated and treat it like a competition.

[Ramcoro]

Why is this thread titles black vs gay? Gay people don't control ATRL. We don't need to support the idea that gays and blacks are against each other.

Sure, lack of support is something that needs criticism and attention brought to, but the title goes beyond that. Almost a little homophobic.

[MM3]

And here we go with the people saying "black people are just as racist!!!!!!111"

1) This thread isn't about black vs white, it's about the hypocrisy on ATRL where gays think it's okay to use the N word, but if the F word is used, it's a problem

2) This isn't a contest to see whether black people or white people have been discriminated against the most. Because, I can assure you, if we look back at history, black people will win that contest.

3) Many people on ATRL will never care about topics affecting the Black community because most of ATRL isn't Black. Sad, but true. Not talking about all of ATRL, but for the most part, people on this site (and people in general) don't care as much about topics that don't affect them personally. That's just the way the world works.

[BrittRihanna134]

I feel sorry for the black gays on here.

[BGKC]

Originally posted by Eaten By Lions

Institutionalized racism affects more people, but homophobia is largely more accepted than racism. In any case they are two very different animals so while comparisons can be drawn within the two, those forms of oppression have their own universe so it's dumb when people get heated and treat it like a competition.

!!!

Which is probably why no one answered me when I asked what word is more offensive in the following sentence (I'll try again):

It's 2014 and Fa**ot ni**as are still bein imprisoned/tortured/killed by law in many parts of Africa.


Then again, Americans like to think the world revolves around them. So they turn the pettiest situations into a bigger problem than what it actually is. (Referring to people acting like gays haven't endured as much, when they're STILL enduring strife in many parts of the 3rd world). Now of course, racism is a bigger issue that affects more people, the fact remains, both parties endure the strife, and in most cases they endure both (racism and homophobia). Both racism and homophobia is a major issue. There shouldn't even be a competition, because that just shows how backwards and self-absorbed you truly are.

[Reeawna]

Blacks
Gays

😘

[I Am Music]

Originally posted by MP2K

Damn, when will some of you realize that not all black people use the n word or tolerate it being used by anyone in or outside their race. Like, do all you people know of is rap music and people that live in the hood or something? Say the n word around the wrong person and I'm sure you'll get clocked or knocked out, especially from an older/mature black person. You cannot tell one individual black person what they can and cannot be offended by just because another uses the word.

This and there was no oppression olympics going on in this thread so no idea why that is being brought up. To answer BGKC's question I do feel that worrying about marriage equality in the US when gays in Russia and Africa can't even walk about openly makes this "struggle" small in comparison.

Let's be honest marriage equality seems to be the biggest issue everyone in the US seems to be worrying about. Don't get me wrong gays should be allowed to get married and everything else we deserve but I feel like other issues should be attended to more.

We have come a long way since the 80s and 90s hell even the early 2000's I am not saying settle for what is given to you but put some things into perspective.

[Ascension]

Originally posted by MP2K

Damn, when will some of you realize that not all black people use the n word or tolerate it being used by anyone in or outside their race. Like, do all you people know of is rap music and people that live in the hood or something? Say the n word around the wrong person and I'm sure you'll get clocked or knocked out, especially from an older/mature black person. You cannot tell one individual black person what they can and cannot be offended by just because another uses the word.

Because that would require common sense and consideration. Attributes held by too few people in our society, unfortunately.

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Piggybacking off of this thought...

I'm not a member of the gay community and I often hear/read gay men referring to others by the F word. I wouldn't dream of using it -- it's not my place; I'm not justified in saying it because I know that some within that community/culture do.

And I don't feel like I'm missing out on something or being treated unfairly because I can't use a word and not be thought of as a bigoted homophobic bitch because I'm not a part of the LGBT community when a gay man can say it without anyone so much as blinking. It's not my word to "reclaim" and I have no right to tell the next person they can't be offended by me using a derogatory word directed at homosexuals because I heard a gay person use the word without anyone getting upset. With someone who is gay saying it, even though you may disagree with the usage of the word, it's clearly not coming from a place of hate/disdain/disgust. It's not so clear coming from someone that isn't and I get that.

It's the very same thing with the N word. And it's ridiculous that is so difficult for some to grasp. Not all Black people use or agree with the usage of the N word. And even though some Black people do, it takes on a completely different tone when a non-Black person uses it because you really don't know the intent; whether or not it's being done to be malicious or mocking.

People that don't ~want to get that will always pretend they don't understand why certain words from certain groups of people will typically garner different types of reactions tho, so whatever.

[I Am Music]

Originally posted by Ascension

Because that would require common sense and consideration. Attributes held by too few people in our society, unfortunately.

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Piggybacking off of this thought...

I'm not a member of the gay community and I often hear/read gay men referring to others by the F word. I wouldn't dream of using it -- it's not my place; I'm not justified in saying it because I know that some within that community/culture do.

And I don't feel like I'm missing out on something or being treated unfairly because I can't use a word and not be thought of as a bigoted homophobic bitch because I'm not a part of the LGBT community when a gay man can say it without anyone so much as blinking. It's not my word to "reclaim" and I have no right to tell the next person they can't be offended by me using a derogatory word directed at homosexuals because I heard a gay person use the word without anyone getting upset. With someone who is gay saying it, even though you may disagree with the usage of the word, it's clearly not coming from a place of hate/disdain/disgust. It's not so clear coming from someone that isn't and I get that.

It's the very same thing with the N word. And it's ridiculous that is so difficult for some to grasp. Not all Black people use or agree with the usage of the N word. And even though some Black people do, it takes on a completely different tone when a non-Black person uses it because you really don't know the intent; whether or not it's being done to be malicious or mocking.

People that don't ~want to get that will always pretend they don't understand why certain words from certain groups of people will typically garner different types of reactions tho, so whatever.

[Jet]

Originally posted by JessicaVanessa

I'm leaving this thread, but I would just like to say this
If we all tried to not stick ouR nose in other peoples business and why they are offended we would be much better off
Me as a straight person should not be able to ask "why are gays offended?" since I'm not gay
Gay people who are not black should not be able to say "why are blacks offended?" since they are not black.

Nothing but truth

[IttyBittyNicki]

I find it rather, hypocritical that Once a White celebrity Says the "N Word" People on ATRL tend to always reply with "whats the big deal" it's Just a word" "Slavery of over" "it was so long ago" it shouldn't offend you, you weren't a slave" "why can't we say it, black people say it all the time"

BUT

The second a celebrity Says a "homophobic" slur Atrl servers are crashing with HATE.....

So for those who can't see the big deal about the N word, explain to me Why you feel like being Called the "F" word is worse? (those who feel this way)

Drag them.

[Sláy]

Originally posted by KillingYourCareer

Well, let's say, black people say the N word all the time and even put it in songs. Homosexuals don't really say the F word. So if the N word is so widely used today, it's mostly the black people's fault.

JESUS.

[NewRihannaStan]

I'm gay and black

[Sláy]

Originally posted by BGKC

!!!

Which is probably why no one answered me when I asked what word is more offensive in the following sentence (I'll try again):

It's 2014 and Fa**ot ni**as are still bein imprisoned/tortured/killed by law in many parts of Africa.


Then again, Americans like to think the world revolves around them. So they turn the pettiest situations into a bigger problem than what it actually is. (Referring to people acting like gays haven't endured as much, when they're STILL enduring strife in many parts of the 3rd world). Now of course, racism is a bigger issue that affects more people, the fact remains, both parties endure the strife, and in most cases they endure both (racism and homophobia). Both racism and homophobia is a major issue. There shouldn't even be a competition, because that just shows how backwards and self-absorbed you truly are.

In that case it would be the second pejorative, due to the context of 'Africa'. Both are bad though.

[UFO]

Being a flat-out dick overrides them both lbr.

[RatedG²]

It's always a damn contest on this site of "who's the more repressed" or "who has it worse"

**** it, both have it hard and that's that

[Gee]

What a powerful read.

to the ones who kept it classy and gave well thought out opinions.