[moijejoue]

Originally posted by nezLaos

No shade but if gaga had such impact why is she struggling to go platinum with ARTPOP.

What I'm trying to say is that Lady Gaga, in her 5 years, made more of a musical and cultural impact than Rih did in the 9 years of her career.

[Upton]

Originally posted by moijejoue

You mean her producers are always experimenting with different sounds?

And doesn't she always pull it off? Yes. I don't think anyone else in the industry could pull off so many different sounds, she's so versatile

[Rihhyonce]

Obviously Rihanna is not yet a legend, that title comes after many years in the industry, but the fact that y'all STILL try and argue that she has no impact.

[ForeverNow90]

Originally posted by Fanik

So you have to write a song fully by urself to be considered a legend

ch.. that does not match to a lot of legends

nnn; i know right?

They keep finding the dumbest reasons to discredit Legend Rihanna. The self drag is that their fave or and most artists don't even write songs on their own

[EdgeOfAddiction]

Originally posted by Eternium

Not even remotely close. She's never done anything new or revolutionized the industry.

If use of an outfit can be considered revolutionary and iconic, a standout haircut for an era can do the same.

[KangBey]

Nope, I don't see it for ha tbh.

[Gangsta4alife]

Originally posted by WeFoundWill

Fun Fact: Rih's albums are more acclaimed by critics than Whitneys and Mariahs.

A prime example atrl does not know what being a legend is . Critical acclaim is just one of the many factors that contribute to it, and Daydream & Whitney's debut album have received more acclaim so I don't know who told you those lies. Unless you think people only review albums from the new millennium on

Anyways Whitney & Mariah are legends because of their CONTRIBUTIONS to music. What are rihanna's contributions to music that are so great that she needs that title?? Did she revitalize the power ballad and set the template for almost every female singer in her wake?? Was she so innovative that taking her pure pop image/sound and collaborating with a thug rapper set trends still replicated to this day??? Just food for thought what has she done???



P.S.: Sales does not equate a LEGACY

[QueenBeé]

Rihanna is not a legend or an icon but not because she doesn't write songs. If songwriters are legends, Sia and Diane Warren >>> MJ,Whitney,Janet,Celine and Shania combined.

[moijejoue]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

If use of an outfit can be considered revolutionary and iconic, a standout haircut for an era can do the same.

So a haircut can revolutionize the music industry?

[Javan]

I doubt what constitutes a legend in 20 years will have the same standards it has today. Dare I say the likes of Katy and Kesha just might become legends

[Tuxedo]

Originally posted by Mike91

Those are accomplishments. They have nothing to do with being considered a legend.

Most of the biggest musical legends in history have never even had a top 100 song.

Yet, you're wrong. Doing something really well (being acclaimed by critics AND GP)
or how you call it - accomplishments are connected to being a legend. Obviously, there a few musicians that we can call legends, who didn't have neither a #1 song or acclaim.
They always had a GP on their side.

And what says that GP loves you better than people buying & listening to your music?

[Exile]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

Why does it matter whether or not she created/produced a hit song by herself or not? She doesn't market herself as a writer. She's a singer/performer. Did Whitney write all/if any of her biggest hits? Did Beyonce contribute towards the instrumentals and lyrics to her debut sol single aside from the "uh oh, uh oh" tagline?
Rih's job is to perform and sell the songs and that's exactly what she does. In that vein of thought, she most definitely is a legend.

I can tell you Beyonce has done the most compared to Rihanna and her team buying songs.

[NEZ]

Kind of crazy how rihanna has more grammys than madonna, whitney and mariah.

[Mani.]

No, no... Definitely not.

[Upton]

Originally posted by moijejoue

So a haircut can revolutionize the music industry?

Maybe not the entire industry but remember when Rihanna came at us with that flame red hair, yeah about 60% of girls I knew suddenly had flame red hair. That's because of her impact

[SilencePlease]

She's not yet, but she will 100% sure.

[ForeverNow90]

screaming at the level of pressedtivity in here.

Icon has already proven herself worthy of the title, but they still doubt her impact. If THAT isnt legendary, then I don't know what is

[swissman]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

Why does it matter whether or not she created/produced a hit song by herself or not? She doesn't market herself as a writer. She's a singer/performer. Did Whitney write all/if any of her biggest hits? Did Beyonce contribute towards the instrumentals and lyrics to her debut solo single aside from the "uh oh, uh oh" tagline?
Rih's job is to perform and sell the songs and that's exactly what she does. In that vein of thought, she most definitely is a legend.

I realize this is not about Beyonce but as it was already brought up…. you do realize aside from the iconic sample in Crazy in Love, the "uh oh" part is the most famous part about the song?

[Javan]

RIhanna isn't particularly talented at anything. So I think she will have her icon accolade and thats that. Unless you can be a legend for je ne sais quoi I don't see it for her. She would have to be involved in a revolutionary movement in popular music. I can see Rihanna being a part of something large but I don't know what yet.

[Gangsta4alife]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

Why does it matter whether or not she created/produced a hit song by herself or not? She doesn't market herself as a writer. She's a singer/performer. Did Whitney write all/if any of her biggest hits? Did Beyonce contribute towards the instrumentals and lyrics to her debut solo single aside from the "uh oh, uh oh" tagline?
Rih's job is to perform and sell the songs and that's exactly what she does. In that vein of thought, she most definitely is a legend.

Chile are you gonna compare rihanna to a woman who broke down barriers for women of color, is consideredt he immaculate vocalist, revitalized the power ballad and set a template that is still followed to this day??

Mediocre performances and selling some cute singles don't make you a legend. It's your contributions to music, performance and even vocals that make you considered a legend. And since everyone in this thread just keeps on talking about her sales rather than:

. Her innovative production that changed the sound of music
. Her performances/vocals that make her considered the immaculate artist of her time
. Her massive influence
. Iconic moments that are still being recreated more than a decade later
. Setting the standard for what a female artist should be etc...

it's safe to say the answer still remains a resounding NO and will remain that way