[TMTURKEY]

shes lame

[theworldfamous]

Originally posted by Pop pop123

This is so not true. and you have no knowledge of radio works. I'm not going to even bother.

You don't need to play "games" or "do rounds". All they need is payola and label backing with a generic song which Lana is highly opposed to.

New artists break out via payola all the time, Iggy (on the verge radio deal with fancy), Natalia, Hailee etc. Whether they will stick, that's up to the GP to decide.

You constantly contradict yourself saying her sound is marketable and commercial but she ain got no AirPlay. If her sound was that commercial it would have gotten AirPlay. There's no point in arguing further about that.

So then why doesn't Lana have airplay on alternative stations? "Payola" isn't exclusive to monetary exchange. Your attempt to position yourself as someone who knows anything about the radio industry and programming is tragic.

[holocene]

I've only heard New Americana and it's lyrically awful and the production is not nearly good enough to make up for it. Also, she made a career partly based off of being rude about my fave which isn't cute.

[Pop pop123]

Originally posted by theworldfamous

So then why doesn't Lana have airplay on alternative stations? "Payola" isn't exclusive to monetary exchange. Your attempt to position yourself as someone who knows anything about the radio industry and programming is tragic.

There's nothing tragic here. I don't understand what you mean.

Because radio (every format not just Pop lol) lol lol lol is commercial.

Your "alternative" music ON the RADIO is commercial music. Anyways, I'm not going to even bother.

Label can pay any format and Dj, radio stations gladly take it. Halsey has been getting pushed at Alternative and Triple A even tho her music is pure pop for example.

[katykater]

How she turned a lot of the European Twitter Kats blue, Halsey blue. How disenfranchised Halcyon fans and thirsty Kats are overrunning the Badlands tour dates or having meet ups at Halsey events like it's a way to send red flags to Katy.

Badlands is to me like the dark side of Teenage Dream, the amount of drugs, sex and her bipolar mental state changing through the songs served with fantastic instrumentals, the energy, the joy,... It's maybe also the surpressed female angry feelings/urges that was held down for years and now suddenly unleashed like it's the Jagged Little Pill of this generation.

Seeing the fact that Kats and Monsters can talk about a common topic without fighting in Halsey threads, she can make peace between old rivals. The Katycats is an open base, anyone can join us, no loyalty checks, no restrictions on having other faves, no restrictions/guidelines on how to stan for Katy,... However other bases can be like a police state with strict rules and brainwashing programs.

It's scary for a lot of the non-Kats bases to see their fellow stans suddenly turning blue by an invisible hand from the underground, how their bases are at risk of being hollowed out and how fellow stans can forget old rivalries between they suddenly became something else. You can't see it, you can't smell it,... and still there is it. Yes, she is scary like radioactivity.

I see ATRL trying to resist her being a threat to the existing status quo between the bases. She has the potential shake things up.

Especially when she looks a bit manly like P!nk. P!nk holds the bar to measure which pop girls are big enough to be called main or major pop girls. Halsey is the girl without a song spinning on the radios, but can tour both sides of the Atlantic, 97k first week debut album (pure) sales,... already holds the bar above the squirrel fights between the Disney girls.

She is already aiming for Madison Square Garden (the arena) next Summer. It's a matter of turning enough Kats blue and the arena would be overrun.

Any pop girl slipping under Halsey means "Your fave is reduced to something squirrel sized like the Disney girls.", "Your fave's relevancy is nowadays even lesser than having no songs spinning on the radios and never being heard of by the people in the streets.",...

[Hyun.]

Hate her attitude.

[Superbitch]

Idk but it seems like the good sue Halsey will be soon joining Iggy, Demi, Jessie, Leona and Keri

[JonginBey]

I don't dislike her. I just don't care to check for her and her music

[Misanthrope]

Originally posted by Pop pop123

There's nothing tragic here. I don't understand what you mean.

Because radio (every format not just Pop lol) lol lol lol is commercial.

Your "alternative" music on the RADIO is commercial music. Anyways, I'm not going to even bother.

Label can pay any format and Dj, radio stations gladly take it. Halsey has been getting pushed at Alternative and Triple A even tho her music is pure pop for example.

If you're going to brand Lana Del Rey "alternative", than shes among the most commercial alternative can get. West Coast can be played after Mumford & Sons and any number of the random ass commercial alt music that plagues alternative radio stations.

The reason she doesnt get played on radio is because she does not try. You have to force your way to get massive airplay. It has nothing to do with her not being commercial, which she is commercially palatable. I think Honeymoon is her least thus far only because its really heavy on the slow burners. The only one with top 40 airplay potential is arguably High By the Beach and Art Deco. Everything else is a little too spatial for radio, even alt stations.

ANYWAY if any of my last posts in this thread are going to be responded to im not checking for em. ive got to finish the x files and fall asleep. I work early. goodnight lana stans.

[ShouldersSideways]

I think a lot of people see through the tortured artist, Tumblr trope. It just doesn't seem real.

[Pop pop123]

Originally posted by Misanthrope

If you're going to brand Lana Del Rey "alternative", than shes among the most commercial alternative can get. West Coast can be played after Mumford & Sons and any number of the random ass commercial alt music that plagues alternative radio stations.

The reason she doesnt get played on radio is because she does not try. You have to force your way to get massive airplay. It has nothing to do with her not being commercial, which she is commercially palatable. I think Honeymoon is probably her least thus far only because its really heavy on the slow burners. The only one with top 40 airplay potential is arguably High By the Beach and Art Deco. Everything else is a little too spatial for radio, even alt stations.

I agree with that. You should just scalped and clockt yourself sister.

You went from saying she's commercial blah blah blah to kinda commercial.

She's too alt for pop and too pop for alt.

I'm not branding her as alternative. Just not mainstream and Murmford and Sons is VERY commercial.

I'm on mobile but let just say that don't get the word pop and commercial mixed up. You can be alternative and still be commercial. You can be urban and still be commercial.

[theworldfamous]

Originally posted by Pop pop123

There's nothing tragic here. I don't understand what you mean.

Because radio (every format not just Pop lol) lol lol lol is commercial.

Your "alternative" music ON the RADIO is commercial music. Anyways, I'm not going to even bother.

Label can pay any format and Dj, radio stations gladly take it. Halsey has been getting pushed at Alternative and Triple A even tho her music is pure pop for example.

Maybe in a small dismal market you're probably used to. But major radio markets cannot take those risks in playing music that may or may not rank well with their demo. Many times jocks aren't allowed to touch the playlist at ALL. That's Programming 101. No radio station just adds a song to the playlist because a label throws a bunch of cash behind it. Your logic is so flawed.

[Su-Barbie-A]

Originally posted by Marvin

It's hard to dislike someone you've never heard of

Same, suddenly the name Halsey started popping up on ATRL even though I never saw a 'Halsey - X' thread

[Suilen]

Jealous of her synesthesia.

[superben]

She reminds me how pretentious, annoying and b***s*** Tumblr can be.

[Pop pop123]

Originally posted by theworldfamous

Maybe in a small dismal market you're probably used to. But major radio markets cannot take those risks in playing music that may or may not rank well with their demo. Many times jocks aren't allowed to touch the playlist at ALL. That's Programming 101. No radio station just adds a song to the playlist because a label throws a bunch of cash behind it. Your logic is so flawed.

My logic isn't flawed. Thank you. Clear Channel radio deal exist for a reason.

Yes, every clear channel stations z100 and Kiis etc Big stations.

[fememeist]

Just accept the fact that not every girl should be praised in here
Halsey is one of them

[K$Ellie]

Originally posted by Blue Jeans

How is she a Lana clone, when her music is quite upbeat and joyful (Colors, Roman Holiday), and even supposed "sadder" songs have a distinct electronic production
Or is it because of the whole "new americana" "die young" concept?

It's this part. People listen to one song and assume Badlands is Born To Die 2.0

[Supervillain]

I used to like her but now she's just a bit TOO much

[KK_Lover]

Cause she has nothing to offer; she's boring.