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Discussion: Eating meat is selfish?
Member Since: 2/5/2014
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I do not think that it's selfish, especially if the animal that a person is eating is sustainably raised and humanely treated during its life.
Most of the animals that people eat, have been domesticated over hundreds of years to the point that they could no longer survive in the wild. Also, there are tons of other uses and industrial applications for livestock products beyond meat so if people went without meat we'd be wasting the animal that would still be killed to use for other purposes. Like, I eat meat, not too often, and could go without, but I don't see the point in not eating it. I still respect vegetarians and vegans of course and would never try and convince them to eat anything different.
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Originally posted by mrmikefern
If anything is selfish, it's trying to get people to say what only you want to hear.
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Right?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 7,633
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Not if it's killed humanely. But when you think about it, most of those animals are bred specifically to be killed and used for resources. You should call the people who kill h r animals selfish if anything, not consumers that are just eating food. Don't try and act like meat doesn't add anything to you diet either.
If any of y'all were wondering there's a really good halal cart near union square (closer to 3rd ave) only $5 for chicken and lamb over rice WITH a free drink AND pita bread
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 8,070
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Originally posted by AccioMiley
I believe they are and nothings going to change that. I choose to eat meat, And yes it could be considered selfish by vegetarians and vegans. But the only reason you made this thread is to judge everyone that comments that they eat meat in this thread. Everyone does things that can be considered selfish. Even you. But making a holier than thou thread about meat eaters "selfishness" isn't going to do any good
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THANK YOU! and believe me its not considered selfish by many/most vegans/vegetarians cause most don't really care! If people eat meat then great! If they don't then great! This thread where you're calling people out for not being up to your standards and eating what you do is ridiculous.
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Member Since: 1/8/2012
Posts: 26,732
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Originally posted by Nano
Meat eaters need to be called out. Literally all of their arguments are completely idiotic.
- "It's natural!"
- "Other animals do it!"
- "You're the one killing plants!"
- "We always did it, why should we stop now?!"
Society would not advance if backwards thinking was never called out.
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I guess I understand why vegans & vegetarians choose to eat what they eat, for their own health. That's mainly why they do it. But if some they think they're going to change the world or something... yeah, meat eating is never going to end, so there's no point in arguing against it.
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Member Since: 4/12/2012
Posts: 10,997
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I eat meat, but i don't eat fish.
So i'm only half selfish
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
Posts: 26,389
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Yeah, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it because I know they'd eat me if the roles were switched.
But I respect you for being stronger than that, Abyss.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 4,520
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Why don't you slay these animal killing bitches (carnivores) then? They're violent and make many herbivores' life hell
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,186
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Originally posted by TheNight
Of course it is, and you can see it even just in the ways a few people here are responding. Humans do not require meat to survive and thrive. However, the vast majority of us enjoy the taste of it, so we decided that our enjoyment is more important than the life of an animal. That wouldn't be an issue if these animals lacked sentience, as is the case with plants, but as it is, they are sentient and very clearly do not wish to die (as anyone who has seen films from inside factory farms or with any common sense will know). Thus, it is indeed selfish to take their lives, which they do not wish to lose, simply to please our palettes. But the fact is that the majority of people just don't care, which is extremely disheartening.
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THANK YOU! You summed it up perfectly, it's so frustrating .
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Originally posted by mrmikefern
If anything is selfish, it's trying to get people to say what only you want to hear.
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Not if it's the truth .
xox
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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No, I eat meat. Usually at least once a day, for either lunch or dinner. I do enjoy me some good r̶a̶b̶b̶i̶t̶ ̶f̶o̶o̶d̶ salads with it, though.
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Member Since: 10/8/2011
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I'm not gonna stop eating meat and I don't care if that makes me selfish.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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no, but sometimes it's shellfish
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Yes it IS selfish.
We don't have to eat meat to get all the essential amino acids (protein), and other vitamins. Animals are TORTURED in factory farms!!! And the impact this has on our ecosystem is tragic.
If you cannot quit eating meat then I suggest you at least buy pasture-raised free-range meat and eggs (they probably suffer way less abuse) or go to your local farmer who keeps their animals pretty happy and free-ranged.
DO NOT support factory farms if you have a heart... please!!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,186
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Originally posted by Gastrodonatella
Is this a troll thread?
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No.
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Originally posted by Hugamari
Yeah, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it because I know they'd eat me if the roles were switched.
But I respect you for being stronger than that, Abyss.
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Thank you King Hugamari .
xox
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by K$Ellie
1. We don't need meat to survive so don't compare us to other animals.
2. Plants don't feel pain so you're not killing them when you eat them.
I'll leave it at that.
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1. Actually, replacing meat is very difficult to do. Lots of vegan/vegetarian tend to have problems replacing it in their diets.
2. A number of studies have shown that plants feel pain
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,186
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Originally posted by RockStarShit666
I'm not gonna stop eating meat and I don't care if that makes me selfish.
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Good, that's the point I made in the OP. I said I can't make people do anything, I just want them to be more honest and you did that so thanks!
xox
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Luxas
so then dogs, tigers, birds...most of the animals are selfish too??? or we should learn them to be vegetarian as well??
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You're not getting it. Tigers and flesh eating birds literally need to consume meat. Their evolution requires that meat is in their diet. In other words, they will literally die without it. On the other hand, humans do not have this inherent need for meat. (Dogs are debatable - some professionals claim they too have an absolute need for meat, while others say they can be fine without it. That's a different story altogether, but I'm just mentioning it since you also brought up dogs.) That is why vegans don't "get mad" or whatever at these actual carnivores - they actually don't have a choice, while we do.
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Member Since: 5/24/2012
Posts: 8,040
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I eat meat and can admit I'm selfish. If I was an animal I'd probably be eaten.
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Member Since: 6/16/2011
Posts: 2,785
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*eating a steak to spite you*
Don't force your beliefs onto others, it tends to backfire. Get off your soapbox cretin.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,186
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Originally posted by KasioKas
THANK YOU! and believe me its not considered selfish by many/most vegans/vegetarians cause most don't really care! If people eat meat then great! If they don't then great! This thread where you're calling people out for not being up to your standards and eating what you do is ridiculous.
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Most vegetarians/vegans choose to be vegan for ethical reasons so how the hell doesn't it matter to them ?
I'm not saying they go around all their friends berating them for eating meat, I don't sit beside someone who is eating meat and start going on a big rant about their food everyday, but obviously if you believe strongly in animal rights and welfare you are against the meat industry and as such people eating meat.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 265
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I have some respect for vegetarians but you know this discussion will lead nowhere. Some people just aren't bothered enough to change their lifestyles because of it. If you think that's wrong and want to change it, being annoying wouldn't help you achieving it.
xoxo
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