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News: 425 killed (112 children) and more than 3000 injured
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Just awful. RIP to the innocent people that have died. I really hope this ends.
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
Now here what's sad.
Picture number 1 - seems like a facebook pic, don't see what you were trying to say with it.
Picture number 2 - Again, google much? When we practice emergancy scenarios in the army we also put fake blood to the "victims", so taking a photo from google from it make us "fake injury to the media"? How about the editor of the photo taking photos and edit them to fake something for people to belive in. Which leads me to pciture number 3 -
I can post you a photo of my army shoes and you'll know what you notice?What I noticed myself.
WE. DONT. USE. THOSE. SHOES. But do you care about the facts?So far. seems not so much.
And why is that?It's cuz' your fualty logic seems to think that are "real victims".
There's no such thing as fake and real victims. Everyone who get hurt are VICTIMS.
If anyone would care to live in peace that would great but if my country is being attacked than F*CK yeah, I want it to attack back.
Make no mistake. THIS IS WAR. And in war, people get hurt, innocent ones as well.
If we would attack Gaza strip just for fun, that your hate would be accaptable but NO ONE. and I mean NO ONE, would want to live in a country being attacked, no matter what reasons are behind it.
But I guess it's easy yo judge from far away, in your home, sitting and relaxing while people in both sides are hurting...
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If it would be me living under those circumstances like people in Gaza, under oppression and water apartheid, I would try to fight too. Dont even try to sugar coat their situation or blame it solely on them. I was there and saw how Israelis are threating them. You are making crimes against humanity on those people on everyday basis and then you wonder why they try to fight.
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Originally posted by ExtraOrdinary
You can use the  how much you want, but as you can see in the last thread:
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=628356, there wasn't much of "listening" or "accepting" that came from their side, they just ignored what I said and posted the same wrong things over and over again, I am just saving my time, there's no need to fight if that's the situation  |
I have read your post and it actually shocks me how you try to justify what they did by saying how there was a good reason for torturing the kid to death because those kids and others are throwing rocks or knifes on soldiers. How can you even know that the kid did something like that? Unless you were there...
I can assure you that no western country would even consider to burn a kid alive as a proper punishment, no matter what crime the kid commited (or didnt, for all what we know).
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
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Interesting.
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You all are acting like Israel is just doing this for no reason? They have a reason.
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What I understand from you is that Israel had enough of "Hamas" attacks? And they're now attacking back on "self defense"
And you don't see so many Israeli victims because you guys have shelters.
Don't meaning anything, just trying to understand both sides' perspective.
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I can't believe any of you are trying to justify this. Innocent people are being killed, that cannot be justified. 
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
What I understand from you is that Israel had enough of "Hamas" attacks? And they're now attacking back on "self defense"
And you don't see so many Israeli victims because you guys have shelters.
Don't meaning anything, just trying to understand both sides' perspective.
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Answered you
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
I can't believe any of you are trying to justify this. Innocent people are being killed, that cannot be justified. |
So you are saying that it's fine living under rockets every day for over 14 years, because we don't have a lot of injured because of the Iron Dome? what about the people living this kind of lives. You can never know where the alarm will get you, and you can not be sure the Iron Dome took down all the rockets. Also, what about all the people suffering from anxiety? is that nothing? we don't hide rockets in schools or hospitals, we don't use children and old people in order to protect ourselves like they do, they are the ones who have no respect for human lives. 3 years ago my friend lost her grandmother because of the rockets, how would you justify that?
More over, what about these terror actions? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...uicide_attacks, over 1,000 killed until 2014, is that nothing? would the united states let such a thing happen? I don't think so.
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Originally posted by Bríseis
If it would be me living under those circumstances like people in Gaza, under oppression and water apartheid, I would try to fight too. Dont even try to sugar coat their situation or blame it solely on them. I was there and saw how Israelis are threating them. You are making crimes against humanity on those people on everyday basis and then you wonder why they try to fight.
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First of all, you visit here, good for you. Do you live here?No.
So you haven't seen all the things I have seen. You have no idea what's really going on over here and you def' don't know things just cuz' of a few news flesh while this is our everyday life.
Second of all, thanks for reffering to my comment about those photos being fake or out of contex. Guess you can only answer to things you can make excuses for.
Cuz' here what I don't make excuses for. I don't blame them for trying to fight. I blame them, or at least the Hamas, for not wanting peace.
Have you heard about all the talks between our prime minster and their's?Have you heard about the 2 countries solution?Have you heard about them not wanting it?
Now I know that what you will probably going to say is something like "why would they want it, it's thier country in the first place". Well, putting aside facts like UN announcing this is our country, the fact that we are not the only nation to conquer land or more other things I could say about that, this is the reality right now - we are both living on the same land and as grown people we need to work it out. Clearly no one got anywhere else to go which means we need to find a way for both of us to live in the same country. And so far they don't want any kind of that solution.
So no, attacking us is not something which is "legit" like you say. Cuz' we are not some evil controlling goverment which control them, we suplly Gaza strip with electrcity, we don't control the Gaza strip and for that matter if we were evil as you say we could have whip down the all strip if we wanted. Did you ever really stop to think about that last fact? If all we wanted was to kill people why event we just put down an air strike that will take down all of Gaza?Why haven't we stopped the electrcity from Gaza?Maybe it's just cuz' we don't have anything against the Gaza strip people, only Hamas which is a terror organization. And organiztaion that would kill us all if it could?
Bottom line is, I don't justfiy the use of force. On neither end BUT sometimes the only way to fight fire is with fire. And like I said 123908 times, no country will sit down while their country is being attacked by missiles and so far we have done way less than any other country would have done.
But guess we are evil after all, we were the ones who kidnept 3 16 years old boys and killed them. Maybe I should give you a link to the tape which could let you hear how 2 Hamas people shot them 10 times, hear the boys cry from pain while the Hamas people started singing and celebrating.
But hey, we are evil. WE DESERVE IT. THOSE BOYS DESERVE IT. Hamas only want peace.
#LogicFail
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
What I understand from you is that Israel had enough of "Hamas" attacks? And they're now attacking back on "self defense"
And you don't see so many Israeli victims because you guys have shelters.
Don't meaning anything, just trying to understand both sides' perspective.
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How about what you should have learned is that over the years we put money into defending our people while Hamas was busy putting time and effort in getting weapons to hurt our people while not thinking about their own people or will they get hurt. After all Hamas is soooo into helping the palestinian people...
And don't you even jokengly put those "" around self defanse.
Cuz' getting attacked by 120+ missiles in 24 hours, is one hell of a f*cking "excuse" for self defanse. A one bigger than excuses wars bigger and worse than this one have started cuz' of.
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
First of all, you visit here, good for you. Do you live here?No.
So you haven't seen all the things I have seen. You have no idea what's really going on over here and you def' don't know things just cuz' of a few news flesh while this is our everyday life.
Second of all, thanks for reffering to my comment about those photos being fake or out of contex. Guess you can only answer to things you can make excuses for.
Cuz' here what I don't make excuses for. I don't blame them for trying to fight. I blame them, or at least the Hamas, for not wanting peace.
Have you heard about all the talks between our prime minster and their's?Have you heard about the 2 countries solution?Have you heard about them not wanting it?
Now I know that what you will probably going to say is something like "why would they want it, it's thier country in the first place". Well, putting aside facts like UN announcing this is our country, the fact that we are not the only nation to conquer land or more other things I could say about that, this is the reality right now - we are both living on the same land and as grown people we need to work it out. Clearly no one got anywhere else to go which means we need to find a way for both of us to live in the same country. And so far they don't want any kind of that solution.
So no, attacking us is not something which is "legit" like you say. Cuz' we are not some evil controlling goverment which control them, we suplly Gaza strip with electrcity, we don't control the Gaza strip and for that matter if we were evil as you say we could have whip down the all strip if we wanted. Did you ever really stop to think about that last fact? If all we wanted was to kill people why event we just put down an air strike that will take down all of Gaza?Why haven't we stopped the electrcity from Gaza?Maybe it's just cuz' we don't have anything against the Gaza strip people, only Hamas which is a terror organization. And organiztaion that would kill us all if it could?
Bottom line is, I don't justfiy the use of force. On neither end BUT sometimes the only way to fight fire is with fire. And like I said 123908 times, no country will sit down while their country is being attacked by missiles and so far we have done way less than any other country would have done.
But guess we are evil after all, we were the ones who kidnept 3 16 years old boys and killed them. Maybe I should give you a link to the tape which could let you hear how 2 Hamas people shot them 10 times, hear the boys cry from pain while the Hamas people started singing and celebrating.
But hey, we are evil. WE DESERVE IT. THOSE BOYS DESERVE IT. Hamas only want peace.
#LogicFail
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What part about Israelis UNETHICALLY living in a land that IS NOT THEIRS dont you understand? They STOLE the land away from Palestinians and put them in an open air prison with MISERABLE conditions, but DARE to say that their attacks are unwarranted???? PLEASE.
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Originally posted by adir
i can't believe you're all believing all those lies 
Israel is being bombed and the anti-semitic media is saying that israel attacking gaza for no reason.
Woke up people, israel is being attacked by hamas. No other country would accept the fact that she's being bombed and would not respond. |
כבר שנים מנסים להסביר לאנשים פה וזה לא ישתנה,חבל על הזמן שלך
הם אטומים וזה לא חדש שוכחים את כל הזוועות שארה"ב עשתה במהלך השנים
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Originally posted by Adir
I can't believe you're all believing all those lies
Israel is being bombed and the anti-semitic media is saying that Israel attacking Gaza for no reason.
Woke up people, Israel is being attacked by Hamas. No other country would accept the fact that she's being bombed and would not respond. |
Israel is being attacked by nobody. Palestinians are merely taking back what was STOLEN from them.
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
What part about Israelis UNETHICALLY living in a land that IS NOT THEIRS dont you understand? They STOLE the land away from Palestinians and put them in an open air prison with MISERABLE conditions, but DARE to say that their attacks are unwarranted???? PLEASE.
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Just like you stole the the land from the Indians gosh u don't know ****
go learn history for God's sake instead of reading lies in ATRL
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Originally posted by Adir
Yas! spread the hatred. We've seen how well it ended up.
Israel does not hate the Palestinians, no matter what you all want to believe.
It's the Palestinians who hate Israel and they are driven by the hate to destroy it.
Learn some history ya'll and check how many times through history the Israeli government tried to reach in peace to the Palestinians and they refused.
They started attacking us couple of weeks ago and we said CLEARLY that we won't strike back if they'll stop. but they didn't stop and we just respond to their attacks.
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Why wouldn't they hate people who have invaded their lands, displaced them, murdered them and treated them like they are subhuman?  Israel should NOT exist where it is now in the first place.
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Originally posted by DemetriaLove
You all are acting like Israel is just doing this for no reason? They have a reason.
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Their reason is that they hate Palestinians and want to destroy Palestine. And by "they" I mean the Israeli government, NOT all Israelis or all Jewish people.
It's a genocide, they are trying to eradicate Palestine from the world. They have been trying to do it for over 50 years.
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Originally posted by T0M
Just like you stole the the land from the Indians gosh u don't know ****
go learn history for God's sake instead of reading lies in ATRL |
IM A HISTORY MAJOR. I am more informed than you are. I know the history behind both sides, and I have spoken with people on both sides of the issue. Also, I'm not white. I have Taino ancestry. My ancestors were literally got their land taken away from them. Just like the Israelis have IMMORALLY taken their land from the noble Palestinians.
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