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Discussion: Why is Demi not smashing?
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Mau ®
The difference being Selena's public persona does not revolve around her rehab stay and struggles.
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Demi has rehab, Selena has Bieber.
So I think they're equal.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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I'd kill for Carly to have these types of success.
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Member Since: 12/30/2011
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Originally posted by fememeist
I'd kill for Carly to have these types of success.
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Same!
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Originally posted by Eglė
Demi has rehab, Selena has Bieber.
So I think they're equal.
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What an incredibly stupid thing to say.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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She was never really smashing, so I didnt expect it from this era as well.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by memi stan
I'd much rather an artist be upfront about their issues then an artist who claims she went there to "rest" and then never spoke of it again.
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It's one thing to be upfront and another to make it your main talking point in every interview.
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Member Since: 11/27/2008
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Originally posted by memi stan
I'd much rather an artist be upfront about their issues then an artist who claims she went there to "rest" and then never spoke of it again.
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What's wrong with not bringing it up? She got her help and moved on and didn't let it get the best of her.
Demi always talks about it and it becomes redundant. It's been 4 years, let your music speak for itself
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by FAN
What an incredibly stupid thing to say.
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The truth hurts, doesn't it?
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eglė
Demi has rehab, Selena has Bieber.
So I think they're equal.
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The difference is that Selena has never associated herself with Justin for fame. Even when they were dating openly they kept it very down low.
She has mentioned Justin a handful of times and nothing has ever been negative. Even now, all she shows is love and support.
Demi has taken it upon herself to insult Selena, Justin, Miley and others because she feels superior.
She's extremely self-centered.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by TheDoctorLuke
she shoulda called me up !!! i could score her a hit !!!
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No. Bye.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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She's nowhere near smashing but CFTS did really well on radio and a #11 peak is still good. it's not like it peaked there then fell off the hot 100, it was a multi-week Top 20 hit. She's doing fine for her standards.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I personally don't like either of the 2 singles and they both sound dated and poorly written imo. An A-list pop girl would probably reject them or use them as Target bonus tracks right now.
She has a solid following and huge radio connections (her airplay is huge compared to her sales), so when she releases a really great song, she may really get a hit
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Confident will be a hit if they promote it as much as CFTS.
It'll probably be a bigger hit, too. Idk about the album since I think those were the only Max Martin songs but at least she'll have 2 hit singles.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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No one is here for ha
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Originally posted by RicanoRuben
Because they only gave her one rack of ribs and not two like she ordered. Therefore she cannot smash.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by blairwaldorff
The difference is that Selena has never associated herself with Justin for fame. Even when they were dating openly they kept it very down low.
She has mentioned Justin a handful of times and nothing has ever been negative. Even now, all she shows is love and support.
Demi has taken it upon herself to insult Selena, Justin, Miley and others because she feels superior.
She's extremely self-centered.
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blairwaldorff, please.
Less than a year ago she said that she is completely over Justin Bieber, but in a recent interview when she was asked whether she would get back with him she said "I don't know" and her quote was all over social media and Pop websites, such as Billboard, MTV and many more as she once again made the headlines thanks to Bieber which will result in possible album sales later on and more exposure.
I could name even more reasons but I simply don't have enough time to type everything out and the post would be way too long.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I think the main problem with Demi is that she tried to reinvent herself with CFTS and Confident, but unfortunately, her new image is TOO on trend. It seems like she's doing what's being done before. Also, prior to CTFS, her image was by and large "kid-friendly" (i.e Skyscrapper, Heart Attack, Give your Heart a Break, Really Don't Care etc etc) to appeal to her younger audience.
CFTS feels like she was trying to shake that Disney image off and is a lot sexier, which is in contrast to her image previously which has turned off a lot of younger fans imo. Unlike Selena who slowly became more mature and sexy in her image, I feel like Demi changed her image a lot faster. On top of that, Miley just spent all of 2013 proving to the world she's no longer Disney, and in comparison to Miley, Demi just feels super tame and not as interesting.
On top of that, she's been in the industry for 7-8+ years now, for a child star that's pretty good longevity if you think about. Child/disney/teen stars usually have a relatively short shelf life.
Finally, I think how she treats her fans has affected her success with this album so far. I think the delete it fat thing to cancelling shows etc has had a negative impact on her relationship with her fanbase. Also, although she had /has a big fanbase, she's usually struggled to sell to pop-music consumers in general, unlike Selena and Miley.
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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Quote:
Originally posted by Blairbear
I think the main problem with Demi is that she tried to reinvent herself with CFTS and Confident, but unfortunately, her new image is TOO on trend. It seems like she's doing what's being done before. Also, prior to CTFS, her image was by and large "kid-friendly" (i.e Skyscrapper, Heart Attack, Give your Heart a Break, Really Don't Care etc etc) to appeal to her younger audience.
CFTS feels like she was trying to shake that Disney image off and is a lot sexier, which is in contrast to her image previously which has turned off a lot of younger fans imo. Unlike Selena who slowly became more mature and sexy in her image, I feel like Demi changed her image a lot faster. On top of that, Miley just spent all of 2013 proving to the world she's no longer Disney, and in comparison to Miley, Demi just feels super tame and not as interesting.
On top of that, she's been in the industry for 7-8+ years now, for a child star that's pretty good longevity if you think about. Child/disney/teen stars usually have a relatively short shelf life.
Finally, I think how she treats her fans has affected her success with this album so far. I think the delete it fat thing to cancelling shows etc has had a negative impact on her relationship with her fanbase. Also, although she had /has a big fanbase, she's usually struggled to sell to pop-music consumers in general, unlike Selena and Miley.
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She just signed a joint deal with Island/Republic Records btw.
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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She's constantly competing with Selena and I think that's one of her problems. I don't understand why she does it every time? She could have put Cool For The Summer out in May and it could have been huge but she had to release at the same time as Selena again. And unfortunately for her, Good For You was the better song. And now the same thing is happening with Confident/Same Old Love.
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Member Since: 12/23/2011
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Because she releases wrong singles.
Her biggest advantage is her strong voice. Her best songs are her ballads where she can show it.
But for some reason she never releases those strong ballads a singles. Instead they release her worst songs as singles - Confident, Neon Lights and that terrible Really Don't Care, yet amazing songs like Two Pieces, Warrior, Nightingale, Shouldnt Come Back stay unnoticed
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