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Discussion: What's Your Religion?
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Originally posted by J03Y
I like how a majority of atheists use verses from the Old Testament as valid reasons to think Christianity is hypocritical when CHRISTianity was based on the beliefs by Jesus CHRIST. The Old Testament is grouped with the New only because a few laws and beliefs remain relevant along with Jesus's teachings.
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this..christian basicly rise when jesus comes......
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Originally posted by Lucas32
But aren't the 10 commandments in the old testament?
Aren't they part of the "true Christian belief" anymore?
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Jesus summarized the ten commandments into two:
“Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and most important commandment. The second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commandments” - Matthew 22:37-40
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by fabbriche
That's the Old Testament. That was the law before Jesus. When Jesus came, He preached about kindness, to love your neighbor as you love God and forgive your enemies, that's why the high priests of the time thought Jesus was going against God's law and why they crucified him. The Old Testament is merely a background which predates the beginning of the history of the Jewish nation until the coming of the Messiah. Christian doctrines don't revolve much around it but in the New Testament. What Jesus preached, that's the embodiment of the true Christian beliefs.
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This clearly needs to be cleared up because many Christians have no idea about that distinction.
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Originally posted by fabbriche
That's the Old Testament. That was the law before Jesus. When Jesus came, He preached about kindness, to love your neighbor as you love God and forgive your enemies, that's why the high priests of the time thought Jesus was going against God's law and why they crucified him. The Old Testament is merely a background which predates the beginning of the history of the Jewish nation until the coming of the Messiah. Christian doctrines don't revolve much around it but in the New Testament. What Jesus preached, that's the embodiment of the true Christian beliefs.
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Originally posted by boyamama
and now u attack jesus too,give me example where the nasty at......
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These are all direct quotes from Jesus' mouth (according to the Bible):
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Originally posted by Matthew 5:31-32
It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I say to you that every one who divorces his wife, except on the ground of unchastity, makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
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Originally posted by Matthew 10:14-15
And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town. Truly, I say to you, it shall be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town.
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Originally posted by Matthew 10:34
Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
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Originally posted by Matthew 10:35-37
For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s foes will be those of his own household. He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
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Originally posted by Luke 9:61-62
Another [follower] said, “I will follow you, Lord; but let me first say farewell to those at my home.” Jesus said to him, “No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God."
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Originally posted by Luke 15:26
If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.
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Courtesy Greta Christina.
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Member Since: 6/6/2012
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Originally posted by toanythingtaboo
This clearly needs to be cleared up because many Christians have no idea about that distinction.
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Yes they do. It's only some few crazy ones that don't.
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Originally posted by henrytots
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" Instead of being cruel and inhumane, the relationships between slaves and owners appear to have been, at the very least, respectful. Many slaves were treated much like members of the owner's family."
Oh yes, most families just love beating their children, so long as they get up from the beating a day or two later..
" Slavery was generally an economic transaction and not a human rights violation. "
Oooohh.
and these silly black folks in America have been making such a big deal about it for the longest.
Shame on us!
It's cool everyone, we weren't treated wrongly, it was just "economic transaction".
I can't with this article and you posting it to help your arguement.
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Originally posted by fabbriche
That's the Old Testament. That was the law before Jesus. When Jesus came, He preached about kindness, to love your neighbor as you love God and forgive your enemies, that's why the high priests of the time thought Jesus was going against God's law and why they crucified him. The Old Testament is merely a background which predates the beginning of the history of the Jewish nation until the coming of the Messiah. Christian doctrines don't revolve much around it but in the New Testament. What Jesus preached, that's the embodiment of the true Christian beliefs.
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"So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds."
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
-New Testament
Such a loving and kind Lord.
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The Old Testament is a preparation for Christianity. The only religion that follows the Old Testament is Judaism. Jews don't believe Jesus is the Messiah. Christians do that's why our beliefs are more centered on the New Testament.
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I don't really have religious views.
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Originally posted by fabbriche
The Old Testament is a preparation for Christianity. The only religion that follows the Old Testament is Judaism. Jews don't believe Jesus is the Messiah. Christians do that's why our beliefs are more centered on the New Testament.
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Yes.
Because women still arent considered equals and killing children is totally okay.
Hurrah for this love and tolerance filled religion.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by .aR
If you're being serious.........
It's pretty interesting.
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Satan practiced the one sin that was considered the worst of them all, pride. Not pride as in proud of yourself pride as in boasting and thinking you're superior. So God kicked him out of heaven because of that. So Satan decided to get back at God by filling his creations with sin, seemingly giving us free thought. But Adam and Eve had thoughts and wills of their own prior, they were alive therefore they had their own souls and wills. Eating from the tree was an act of disobedience, that's what brought sin to the world. And literally all it really did was just make them notice that they were naked and become self conscious of themselves rather than care about everything around them.
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Originally posted by Mr. Know It All
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Those are all metaphors. As I've said there are like a thousand ways to interpret them.
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non-religious
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
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Originally posted by fabbriche
Those are all metaphors. As I've said there are like a thousand ways to interpret them.
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Then what good is the Bible at all?
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Member Since: 2/6/2010
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The religious ignorance and lack of attention to historical context of the books of the Old Testament is absolutely pathetic. You all need to understand what you're discussing before you begin to be disrespectful and frankly obnoxious.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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Originally posted by Mr. Know It All
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You've just nitpicked the New Testament to only look for the verses you think support your claims you are no better than the hypocrites that call themselves Christians.
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Member Since: 2/6/2010
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Originally posted by Mr. Know It All
Then what good is the Bible at all?
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If you look at, for example, the Jesus quote you brought up about bringing a sword IN CONTEXT of the rest of the passage, it is abundantly clear that he is referring to the immorality of the people of the day that was running rampant.
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
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Originally posted by J03Y
You'be just nitpicked the New Testament to only look for the verses you think support your claims you are no better than the hypocrites that call themselves Christians.
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Yes, I recognize that Jesus' message was overwhelmingly positive, and I rather like the majority of what he said (I don't hate Jesus at all). That post was in response to the assertion that it was only positive (which it wasn't). That's not hypocrisy, however. It's honesty.
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Member Since: 1/19/2012
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My family and I don't have a religion. We live in a predominately Orthodox Christian country though so there's that.
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