Reading is fundamental. THE RIFF SECTION. Not the verse, or chorus. The bridge in which she performs runs are identical in every video
It's quite rich for you to call me dumb, yet I'm smart enough to know that a performance can be partially live. What part of that can you not comprehend?
Did I not post 2 different videos or was that you not comprehending and taking that part out?
It is that simple though. She has times when she does it live, and others when she lips. And even after the intro (on the catwalk), that part is lipped.
Exactly. So it's not that simple. That's my point.
And again, yes, I agree, some of the Formation catwalk part is lipped, but some isn't depending on what she's on that day/week.
The thing about lip syncing is that if it's done well (like B) it doesnt matter too much. But when it's Britney who has literally not cared for like her entire career, it's annoying and cheap.
I agree with this; like Brit does not want her **** to be even remotely realistic.
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The ignorance, it's appalling. Plenty of vocalists manage to sing every night without the help of lip syncing.
Hell, look at Broadway. Audra McDonald does eight shows a week, all live, and still sounds better than Beyonce's pre-recording.
And those vocalists tend to have extremely off nights. That's why they get breaks and understudies etc. On Broadway the acting comes first, people excuse variation in vocals. Honestly at the end of the day Audra is an anomaly the same way Bey is an anomaly for pop music.
Honestly this thread ****ed me up because you would have never convinced me that so many of these Bey moments were lipped but now for some reason today it's so obvious
Because you can't say how it's not comparable. Because you're ignorant of the subject. It's okay, boo, you can admit it.
The truth is, Broadway actors work harder; they have a far more punishing schedule, they don't have nearly as many rest days as touring artists, and they're performing and living in a town with poor air quality. Beyonce and other artists have no excuse.
Girl. What is this mess? Beyonce had a show almost every two days from the end of May to the end of August. On top of doing god knows what else she does (remember she recorded Self-Titled videos while on the MCSWT), so please DON'T attempt to come for her work ethic.
And Beyonce doesn't need an "excuse" to put on a good show. The ****?
I agree with this; like Brit does not want her **** to be even remotely realistic.
And those vocalists tend to have extremely off nights. That's why they get breaks and understudies etc. On Broadway the acting comes first, people excuse variation in vocals. Honestly at the end of the day Audra is an anomaly the same way Bey is an anomaly for pop music.
Um, no, none of them get "breaks" during a run and understudies rarely get to perform. Neil Patrick Harris, for instance, had no understudy.
Girl. What is this mess? Beyonce had a show almost every two days from the end of May to the end of August. On top of doing god knows else what she does (remember she recorded Self-Titled videos while on the MCSWT), so please DON'T attempt to come for her work ethic.
Oh my God, almost two days for three months?!
Oh, wait. No, that isn't comparable at all, especially when she only performed on consecutive nights once and had two weeks off in between legs.
Nobody was coming for her work ethic, I was just demonstrating that actors on Broadway work harder. And guess what? They still do.
Live.
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And Beyonce doesn't need an "excuse" to put on a good show. The ****?
Um, no, none of them get "breaks" during a run and understudies rarely get to perform. Neil Patrick Harris, for instance, had no understudy.
And it's not just Audra.
Understudies wouldn't perform at all if the principals could lip sync. I guess my main point is that it's not comparable because like I said people care more about the acting than the vocals. How often does someone's subpar vocals during a musical make headline news? If Audra or Idina can't perform for some reason, the show must go on. Same thing goes for Bey but no one would pay for her backing vocalists to come on stage instead.
Oh, wait. No, that isn't comparable at all, especially when she only performed on consecutive nights once and had two weeks off in between legs.
Nobody was coming for her work ethic, I was just demonstrating that actors on Broadway work harder. And guess what? They still do.
Live.
Nah
Beyoncé and Broadway actors both perform on stage however they differ after that small aspect
Beyoncé is involved in the creative process of her shows. Concepts, lyrics, production, etc. She doesn't have a manager she makes the decisions herself booking studios, arranging meetings with producers and songwriters. She's also, with her past 2 albums, been shooting music videos for each song at various location sets. This occurs while she's performing on tours.
Not to mention her other business ventures such as her clothing line, perfumes, diet meal plan, and the management of her record label which has 2 young artists (possibly more) signed to it.
Oh, wait. No, that isn't comparable at all, especially when she only performed on consecutive nights once and had two weeks off in between legs.
Nobody was coming for her work ethic, I was just demonstrating that actors on Broadway work harder. And guess what? They still do.
Live.
Then why did you just make an excuse for her?
Broadway stars have extras. If Bey is a no show for her concert there is no show. They have the luxury to do that. They work hard? Yes but Bey is the part of everything and anything that has her name on it. They aren't involved and the whole aspect of the building the plays production, dances,singing,etc. Lin Manuel Miranda is probably the only one who did everything for his show. The rest are literally being told where to go,where to stand,what note to sing,etc.
Oh, wait. No, that isn't comparable at all, especially when she only performed on consecutive nights once and had two weeks off in between legs.
Nobody was coming for her work ethic, I was just demonstrating that actors on Broadway work harder. And guess what? They still do.
Live.
Then why did you just make an excuse for her?
Okay, but WHY are you drawing that comparison as a reason for why Beyonce "doesn't have an excuse to..." ? No one knows her time-tables and what she does when she's not on stage. So there's literally no point in that. Especially since she's not a Broadway artist.
And I made no excuse. There's not even anything to be ashamed of, like I said earlier, her pre-recoded vocals are a professional courtesy. She and her 3 back up singers are the entire vocal show. Beyonce is the main player in those two hour shows. There's no substitutes for acts this and that. No ensemble. No other faces come up on stage. For these types of pop stars it's just them carrying the show for the entire time.
Understudies wouldn't perform at all if the principals could lip sync. I guess my main point is that it's not comparable because like I said people care more about the acting than the vocals. How often does someone's subpar vocals during a musical make headline news? If Audra or Idina can't perform for some reason, the show must go on. Same thing goes for Bey but no one would pay for her backing vocalists to come on stage instead.
But what I'm saying is that they don't utilize understudies often. Lady Day at Emerson's Bar and Grill was on for six months and McDonald didn't miss a single performance. And it's not as if touring artists don't ever cancel performances. Hell, Beyonce canceled Antwerp with the Mrs. Carter Show.
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She doesn't have a manager
Yes, she does. Steve Pamon.
Nice try though.
And I don't know why you think I need a Beyonce biography. Broadway stars also do other work such as TV shows and movies. Plus they raise their kids, with fewer nannies than Beyonce uses. And guess what? Touring artists that I named have all the same responsibilities.
But it's adorable that you think Beyonce manages her clothing line, perfume and record labels all by herself.
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Broadway stars have extras.
Neither do a lot of Broadway stars, especially when they're doing a one-man/woman show.
And you don't think Beyonce has help with a backing vocal group, dancers, and band?
Edit: I think I'm done here, honestly, as I'm clearly not going to convince anyone otherwise, and vice versa. But thanks for keeping it mostly civil!
She lip syncs to keep the fantasy of Beyonce alive. No one wants to see a Beyonce show that 1) is just her standing around and singing live with minimal choreo or 2) a Beyonce out of breath and only singing parts of songs because of heavy choreo/movement.
She can obviously sing, so I do not know why some people are trying to shade her?
And I don't know why you think I need a Beyonce biography. Broadway stars also do other work such as TV shows and movies. Plus they raise their kids, with fewer nannies than Beyonce uses. And guess what? Touring artists that I named have all the same responsibilities.
Yeah. And Beyonce does all that and edits her interludes, arranges the instrumentation, and sets up the camera angles.
Beyonce is both a creative director in her shows and the performer. She has to plan her next albums, concepts, and lyrics. She's not just jumping from one completed project to the next as a "performer". fff
It's not comparable at all to a workhorse Broadway actor. Who's only job is to act/sing/dance.
She uses them on every tour. Every artist does. Only fools think Beyonce is singing an entire 2 hour concert live. Hell the "Formation" opening is lipped.
No every artist does not! The minority of artist lip sync, y'all live in the pop world tew much. Even then Rih & FKA Twigs (relevant become she dances)never use pre-recorded vocals. I think Taylor, Katy and Gaga may be the same, they just use a loud backing track for choruses etc.