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Discussion: #BritneyMadePop
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Originally posted by Shame♥
As they do with Britney. Rihanna's career is younger and she's already more acclaimed.
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How did I skip over this?
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Originally posted by slw84
Except not really. People will remember her antics but thy also remember that she pulled through...if her career would have ended in 2007 than I would see that point but she has proven that she is a major influence in pop. Not only that she has set trends and reinvented and change with the sign of times to remain relevant in music. More people will give her respect for outlasting many of her counterparts in addition to always changing her sound of music to stay fresh.
I believe a quote last year from a producer sums it up...there's pop music and there is Britney spears pop...she has created a league of her own and a blueprint that only she will successfully continue. As gaga stated, she is incomparable.
In God.ney we trust, amen.
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I agree with this. She's actually more respected since the break. It showed that she was a human being with feelings, making her more approachable. What happened to her ruined lives and careers of far lesser stars, but she made it through. No one knew that she was such a fighter.
Are you referring to this amazing quote?
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Originally posted by James Montgomery
These days, we still have plenty of pure pop stars, though none of them are quite like Britney. Lady Gaga is into performance art. Katy Perry is the California Gurl. Pink is the punky older cousin with a ton of tattoos. As is often the case with evolution, they have each developed specialized traits in order to survive. Britney is, in a lot of ways, the origin of the species (for simplicity's sake, I'm just ignoring Madonna, who basically did everything before any of this generation's stars were even teething). She was — and, I suppose, still is — the music industry's first star that is everything to everyone. And each and every time she surfaces with a new album in tow, it signals the return of pop's Mesozoic era.
This is by no means meant to come across as a slight against Spears. I fully understand why her fans love her the way they do, not to mention the fact that Femme Fatale is a heck of a pop record, a starry shadowbox of the coolest sounds you're likely to hear all year. It's more me simply marveling at the way she operates — in the cockpit of a high-powered fighter, making glossy, big-budget videos, putting on full-scale pop spectacles. There truly, honestly isn't anyone else like her.
We should take this opportunity to appreciate what Britney Spears — and her music — represent. She is the last super-pop star left standing. There was a time when everyone did things this way; now it's her and her alone. Spears is still everything to everyone, in a time when all we hear about are "niche markets" and "splintered genres," and for that alone, the success of her material is noteworthy. Can she continue to survive among her more specialized peers? She's certainly earned the right to, though one gets the feeling she's probably not too worried about that fact. The thing about being the first is that there isn't really anything — or anyone — to compete against. So let others sweat the small stuff; Britney's only concerned with being Britney. Now and forever.
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It sums everything up so perfectly.
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One thing I think a lot of us stans for other divas don't recognize is that even though Britney is often lumped together with the other "pop girls" her career far and ahead exceed their's. I wouldn't go so far as to say she "made" pop, but she most definitely revitalized teen pop, revived it, and put it back in the forefront of music.
Before Britney, in the early-mid 90's boybands and girl groups were immensely popular, but there wasn't ONE prime, solo female (or male for that matter) teen pop artist yet, in comes this beautiful, teenage girl (Britney) and everything changes. Not even a later Christina Aguilera debuts (who at the time was doing the exact same schtik as Ms. Spears) then Jessica Simpson, then Mandy Moore, then Willa Ford, etc etc. Britney was the mold. And even though there was Debbie Gibson and Tiffany in the 80's their popularity then and most definitely now is/was minuscule in comparison to Britney's. Her career has lasted way longer than anyone expected and for that I think she's solidified her place in pop music history.
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Originally posted by Duca
She was the first female artist to emerge during the rise of teen pop, opening the doors for Christina, Mandy, Jessica, etc. She was the reason for the Anti-Britney movement, which produced Avril, Nelly Furtado, P!nk, etc. which were all created as the Anti-Britneys. She said goodbye to teen-pop on ‘Britney,’ Christina and the others followed. She started the dance-pop craze with ‘Toxic.’ 'Blackout' is more acclaimed, more experimental, and more influential than anything her peers have ever done. She introduced electro-pop to the mainstream and the tracks are still used as blueprints for numerous smash hits. 90% of ATRL's biggest faves debuted with similar kind of music or changed their sound afterwards. In 2011, after experimenting with dubstep on 'Blackout,' she decided to take a risk and release the first mainstream dubstep track as the first single from her upcoming album. The single went #1 in 17 countries, and later Rihanna and even ****ing Madonna added dubstep breakdowns to their singles. These are only some of the many things she’s done. No other artist sans Madonna (‘Like A Virgin,’ with Britney [ironically, Madonna also kissed Christina, but no one cared about that kiss, everyone was more focused on the reaction of her ex-boyfriend]) has had an iconic performance this millennium. She's had 5 at least. It’s ridiculous to deny that she has been un****withable and repped pop music for the past 15 years.
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Yass...in addition she made videos.a big deal, she made the blueprint for pop stars to branch off into advertisements and.perfumes etc., she reinvented herself to where she was always ' Britney' but always moving the needle, she ushered in a brand new era of pop image to play both sides of thefence ( sex symbol like madonna and other raunchy edgy girls and cookie cutter good girls like Janet, Paula and the 80s pop idols) she merged the two and was successful...now rihanna is using that template of starting out a good girl and going bad. More power to her. She was like a lab rat experiment being the first teen pop idol at 16 old enough to appeal to teenagers and early 20s but young enough to appeal to 5 year olds and spin the lolita good girl with a wink thing into gold. She was ahead of the game with teen pop, overproduced vocals which she was blasted for but 4 yrs later everybody started doing it, she had a gamechanger with slave where the sexuality was not just in the look but in the music, she was doing dance music with matm and toxic when it wasn't commercial when hip hop took over, she make dark europop when r&b pop took over in latent 2000s before dance was big again, shewas apart of the girl break up pop anthems withso what and single ladies, she brought dubstrp influences to mainstream with her song freakshow which rihanna later did with wait your turn, she brought 90s sound back with '3' rave pop influences, she had the first #1 hit with dubstep influences...
Essentially, she went from good girl to good girl with a wink to pre rebellion/ coming into her own to her experimentation phase to papparazi magnet, wife, mother, divorcee to rebellion to self destruction to a massive career comeback and she is the 21st century Queen of pop...fans will rejoice and haters will accept and deal.
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Originally posted by I'mRihannaFan
+1, people like Madonna and Micheal Jackson made the pop, true legends.
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Member Since: 11/12/2011
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Originally posted by Duca
She was the first female artist to emerge during the rise of teen pop, opening the doors for Christina, Mandy, Jessica, etc. She was the reason for the Anti-Britney movement, which produced Avril, Nelly Furtado, P!nk, etc. which were all created as the Anti-Britneys. She said goodbye to teen-pop on ‘Britney,’ Christina and the others followed. She started the dance-pop craze with ‘Toxic.’ 'Blackout' is more acclaimed, more experimental, and more influential than anything her peers have ever done. She introduced electro-pop to the mainstream and the tracks are still used as blueprints for numerous smash hits. 90% of ATRL's biggest faves debuted with similar kind of music or changed their sound afterwards. In 2011, after experimenting with dubstep on 'Blackout,' she decided to take a risk and release the first mainstream dubstep track as the first single from her upcoming album. The single went #1 in 17 countries, and later Rihanna and even ****ing Madonna added dubstep breakdowns to their singles. These are only some of the many things she’s done. No other artist sans Madonna (‘Like A Virgin,’ with Britney [ironically, Madonna also kissed Christina, but no one cared about that kiss, everyone was more focused on the reaction of her ex-boyfriend]) has had an iconic performance this millennium. She's had 5 at least. It’s ridiculous to deny that she has been un****withable and repped pop music for the past 15 years.
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When did Madonna do dubstep? The closest thing I can think of is Paradise (Not For Me), which was over a decade ago and wasn't even dubstep.
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Britney is the queen of pop! (sorry Madonna)
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I love Britney and I love Pop but what's there to be so proud of bringing back the least respected music genre?
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Member Since: 3/9/2011
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Originally posted by GGD
#GagaRevolutionizePOP
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Nope, and I don't look up to her as a Queen neither. She just like any other female act who comes in this industry and becomes big.
Both Britney & Madonna are my Queens. But of course Madonna is first since she lead the way.
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Originally posted by MaxKills
Britney is the queen of pop! (sorry Madonna)
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I love Britney too but mmmm No honey you are reaching too high.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by Duca
Regardless of who came first, one thing is for sure: Madonna and Britney define pop music and pop culture. No other females come close.
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Pretty much.
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Madonna didn't make pop music... DF? What about Michael Jackson, THE BEATLES
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Originally posted by AMENO
And also go back to that English class you just skipped in order to make this thread.
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Originally posted by Shame♥
As they do with Britney. Rihanna's career is younger and she's already more acclaimed.
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Originally posted by olive
Backstreet boy and Spice Girl never exist??
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What?
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Originally posted by J0rdan
Britney heavily influenced pop music as it is today would be the correct statement to make in my opinion.
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I agree with this.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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And i don't think britney will be more remembered for her personal antics than her music. It has affected her status but several artists have praised her for getting her life back on track. My main problem is when she goes out there and half asses performances like she did with TTWE at the BMAs and the other FF promotional performances and damages her legacy. She's influenced a lot during her career, but people won't believe or realize that unless she herself steps it up and proves why she's respected by other artists, why she's considered an icon, etc.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by Duca
Regardless of who came first, one thing is for sure: Madonna and Britney define pop music and pop culture. No other females come close.
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Member Since: 1/12/2012
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Lady Gaga has already said it several times: Britney Spears is QUEEN OF POP.
Not that her words are that important but if she has admitted it so many times it's because is true . End of the story.
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Originally posted by Duca
Regardless of who came first, one thing is for sure: Madonna and Britney define pop music and pop culture. No other females come close.
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Yup.
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Member Since: 3/3/2011
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Originally posted by RideRidePony
MJ & Madonna made pop. Fin
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the two biggest pop acts of all-time disagree
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Originally posted by Kats
It's not that hard to see, really. She had massive success and impact, but to say she made pop music is stretching it. Other artists have had more impact and influenced more than Britney. That doesn't downplay her success.
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Who?
When you think of artists who "made" pop music, artists like Madonna, MJ, and Britney come to mind. There are more than just those three of course, but to deny that Britney is up there (she's not on Madonna and MJ's level, but she's up there) is foolish.
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
Who?
When you think of artists who "made" pop music, artists like Madonna, MJ, and Britney come to mind. There are more than just those three of course, but to deny that Britney is up there (she's not on Madonna and MJ's level, but she's up there) is foolish.
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TBH, I don't think Britney comes anywhere close to the idea of making pop music.
She is the front-runner when it comes to the resurrection of the female pop star in the boy band era, though.
If you're really talking about pop music in its current form, then I guess maybe she is there? But I don't know why everyone acts like pop music started with Madonna and MJ when we have The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Elton John, The Rolling Stones and countless others who transcended traditional genres and played a huge part in shaping the evolution of pop music. To include Britney in a category like that isn't completely ridiculous, but it seems slightly naive. Especially when you're acting like she, MJ and Madonna are the beginning and end of pop.
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