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News: Zimmerman’s lawyers withdraw from Trayvon Martin case.
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I can't listen.
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Originally posted by WoozyFloozy
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It doesnt sound like a grown man screaming to me, it sounds like the teen. That means that other witness either lied his ass off (which is why he didnt wanna be seen) or was confused in all the chaos.
Clearly a grown man is not screaming in this call.
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Oh god, that was horrible. He was just crying for help and screaming.
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An investigation of the events which led up to the murder of seventeen year old Trayvon Martin has revealed that police officers investigating the case tampered with witness statements.
ABC News is now reporting that, after George Zimmerman shot and killed 17 year old Martin, he told police that he screamed for help before shooting Martin. However, witnesses contradicted Zimmerman’s statement and said that it was the teen, not Zimmerman, who screamed for help.
But when at least one witness told the responding officers that it was the teen who screamed for help, and not Zimmerman, the witness account was “corrected” by police.
In addition, according to law enforcement sources who heard Zimmerman’s call to police, he told a dispatcher “these a..holes always get away.” The police have yet to release the recording.
Also, police seem not to have taken into account that Trayvon Martin was outweighed by George Zimmerman by at least 100 pounds according to witnesses. That disparity in weight should have confirmed for police that Zimmerman did not act in self-defense, but the police still seem set on framing Zimmerman as the victim, and Martin as the assailant, even though the facts don’t substantiate that rendering of the story.
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Are you ****ing kidding me?
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Originally posted by satellites™
It doesnt sound like a grown man screaming to me, it sounds like the teen. That means that other witness either lied his ass off (which is why he didnt wanna be seen) or was confused in all the chaos.
Clearly a grown man is not screaming in this call.
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Martin is the kid. The police office corrected her when she said Martin screamed, telling her it was the grown man. It's pretty blatant witness tampering.
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I can't listen.
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I can't either.
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omg the poor child is screaming out for help in that clip
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Originally posted by satellites™
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I can't even. Someone is yelling for help. This is horrific!
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Originally posted by WoozyFloozy
Martin is the kid. The police office corrected her when she said Martin screamed, telling her it was the grown man. It's pretty blatant witness tampering.
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I mean the man on the video from the first report, he said he heard the grown man screaming for help and the black teen was punching him, the man who didnt wanna be seen on cam said this.
I knew it sounded backwards.
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He deserves death penalty.
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I can't bring myself to listen to that call. I just know it's going to be horrific.
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What kind of corruption? Surely this will trickle to national leaders.
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He deserves death penalty.
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The Chair. Seriously. If they let the man walk free, then there's gonna be a big ass problem in Florida.
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This is so sad
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I just got in but I seen this on the news earlier today .
Two female witnesses have come forward also saying the teenager was pleading for his life and the guy still shot him.
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Trayvon’s lifeless body was taken away, tagged and held. Zimmerman was taken into custody, questioned and released. Zimmerman said he was the one yelling for help. He said that he acted in self-defense. The police say that they have found no evidence to dispute Zimmerman’s claim.
One other point: Trayvon is black. Zimmerman is not.
Trayvon was buried on March 3. Zimmerman is still free and has not been arrested or charged with a crime.
Yet the questions remain: Why did Zimmerman find Trayvon suspicious? Why did he pursue the boy when the 911 operator instructed him not to? Why did he get out of the car, and why did he take his gun when he did? How is it self-defense when you are the one in pursuit? Who initiated the altercation? Who cried for help? Did Trayvon’s body show evidence of a struggle? What moved Zimmerman to use lethal force?
This case has reignited a furor about vigilante justice, racial-profiling and equitable treatment under the law, and it has stirred the pot of racial strife.
As the father of two black teenage boys, this case hits close to home. This is the fear that seizes me whenever my boys are out in the world: that a man with a gun and an itchy finger will find them “suspicious.” That passions may run hot and blood run cold. That it might all end with a hole in their chest and hole in my heart. That the law might prove insufficient to salve my loss.
That is the burden of black boys in America and the people that love them: running the risk of being descended upon in the dark and caught in the cross-hairs of someone who crosses the line.
The racial sensitivity of this case is heavy. Trayvon’s parents have said their son was murdered. Crump, the family’s lawyer, told me, “You know, if Trayvon would have been the triggerman, it’s nothing Trayvon Martin could have said to keep police from arresting him Day 1, Hour 1.” Even the police chief recognizes this reality, even while disputing claims of racial bias in the investigation: “Our investigation is color blind and based on the facts and circumstances, not color. I know I can say that until I am blue in the face, but, as a white man in a uniform, I know it doesn’t mean anything to anybody.”
Zimmerman has not released a statement, but his father delivered a one-page letter to The Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. According to the newspaper, the statement said that Zimmerman is “Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.” The paper quotes the letter as reading, “He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever” and continues, “The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth.” And disclosures made since the shooting complicate people’s perception of fairness in the case.
According to Crump, the father was told that one of the reasons Zimmerman wasn’t arrested was because he had a “squeaky clean” record. It wasn’t. According to the local news station WFTV, Zimmerman was arrested in 2005 for “battery on a law enforcement officer.”
Furthermore, ABC News reported on Tuesday that one of the responding officers “corrected a witness after she told him that she heard the teen cry for help.” And The Miami Herald published an article on Thursday that said three witnesses had heard the “desperate wail of a child, a gunshot, and then silence.”
WFTV also reported this week that the officer in charge of the scene when Trayvon was shot was also in charge of another controversial case. In 2010, a lieutenant’s son was videotaped attacking a black homeless man. The officer’s son also was not initially arrested in that case. He was later arrested when the television station broke the news.
Although we must wait to get the results from all the investigations into Trayvon’s killing, it is clear that it is a tragedy. If no wrongdoing of any sort is ascribed to the incident, it will be an even greater tragedy.
One of the witnesses was a 13-year-old black boy who recorded a video for The Orlando Sentinel recounting what he saw. The boy is wearing a striped polo shirt, holding a microphone, speaking low and deliberately and has the heavy look of worry and sadness in his eyes. He describes hearing screaming, seeing someone on the ground and hearing gunshots. The video ends with the boy saying, “I just think that sometimes people get stereotyped, and I fit into the stereotype as the person who got shot.”
And that is the burden of black boys, and this case can either ease or exacerbate it.
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Wow. Just unbelievable.
How many times did Trayvon get shot? It would appear that it was more than once. If that's the case, the self-defense ******** can go right out the window. And the police ain't **** for trying to cover it up. Like damn, a CHILD died. It doesn't matter if he was black, white, yellow, or orange... A ****ing CHILD got killed.
How can adults be so grossly irresponsible?
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Wow. Just unbelievable.
How many times did Trayvon get shot? It would appear that it was more than once. If that's the case, the self-defense ******** can go right out the window. And the police ain't **** for trying to cover it up. Like damn, a CHILD died. It doesn't matter if he was black, white, yellow, or orange... A ****ing CHILD got killed.
How can adults be so grossly irresponsible?
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Furthermore, ABC News reported on Tuesday that one of the responding officers “corrected a witness after she told him that she heard the teen cry for help.” And The Miami Herald published an article on Thursday that said three witnesses had heard the “desperate wail of a child, a gunshot, and then silence.”
WFTV also reported this week that the officer in charge of the scene when Trayvon was shot was also in charge of another controversial case. In 2010, a lieutenant’s son was videotaped attacking a black homeless man. The officer’s son also was not initially arrested in that case. He was later arrested when the television station broke the news.
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That guy seems like one of those dumb ****s who get a concealed handgun permit and become a security guard yet secretly think they're the Lone ****ing Ranger.
Give me a break. Overcompensating for being a loser.
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You could hear the boy pleading for his life. It's disgusting that the police tried to cover this up. The police corruption is just too much.
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