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News: Man buys AIDS drug; increases price from $13.5 to $750
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Originally posted by inspiration4
Did you even read what I wrote?
The US health industry is a double edged sword. (Again, based on my understanding) The reason this medication, like many others even exists is drive in part by the desire to help others ,and equally, if not more from the desire to profit from helping others.
If you remove the financial incentive, you remove most of the innovation.
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Again, you're speaking like a sociopath.
There's no need to raise it to $750 when the company was doing fine at $13.50.
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Originally posted by Retro
And? It's still important to have. Nobody can reasonably afford it now.
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He was just correcting the article... He isn't agreeing with the sociopath. Why are swifties so stupid ?
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I just became a little more misanthropic, and I haven't even dared to watch the clips 
Why are people so awful 
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Originally posted by juicyearlobes
He was just correcting the article... He isn't agreeing with the sociopath. Why are swifties so stupid ?
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Are you coming for a mod? 
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Originally posted by Retro
You're right from a business perspective, but only if you're looking at the one-dimensional "how much money do I get back?" side of things.
Sometimes instead of thinking like just a businessperson, company leaders should also act as humans. Public image and consumer trust are important factors in any industry!
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lmao not to pharmaceutical companies. That's never been the case 
And for the record, these aren't my opinions. It's just my understanding of things. And I agree that in a perfect world, people would dedicate their lives to discovering cures and then make them affordable, or even free, but it's not reality.
The reality is shareholders, investors, financial targets, and everything else that is common to any other industry. The medical one is no different.
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Originally posted by Rascal
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Not you acting like being an atrl.net moderator means your intelligence and point of view is superior. 
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by juicyearlobes
He was just correcting the article... He isn't agreeing with the sociopath. Why are swifties so stupid ?
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Nowhere did the article call it a "cure" for AIDS. Do not question my intelligence, thx.
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How ****ing sick. How anyone could do this to their fellow man is beyond me.
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Originally posted by Reinvention
Not you acting like being an atrl.net moderator means your intelligence and point of view is superior. |
Did I say that? No 
Not that your opinion really matters, but I was simply remarking that acting abrasive towards a moderator is not a smart thing to do.
Kindly sit back down and shut up.
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Originally posted by Mezik
Again, you're speaking like a sociopath.
There's no need to raise it to $750 when the company was doing fine at $13.50. |
Lol tossing out names now are we?
And it's less me being a sociopath, and more you lacking fundamental reading comprehension skills. If you had the latter, you'd see I'm only explaining how the industry works. How that makes me a sociopath is beyond me, but do you. 
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Originally posted by Retro
Nowhere did the article call it a "cure" for AIDS. Do not question my intelligence, thx.
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Lol that's debatable
Keep giving me wp if you like, I have better things to do than coming after people who volunteer for a site which has no impact.
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Originally posted by inspiration4
lmao not to pharmaceutical companies. That's never been the case
And for the record, these aren't my opinions. It's just my understanding of things. And I agree that in a perfect world, people would dedicate their lives to discovering cures and then make them affordable, or even free, but it's not reality.
The reality is shareholders, investors, financial targets, and everything else that is common to any other industry. The medical one is no different. |
The pharmaceutical industry has a long history of being viewed as corrupt ant broken; this is just another example. Sure, it's one industry in which the effects of consumer sentiments impacts companies far less, but that's because they need the products that the industry provides.
Being more consumer friendly with prices might actually have long term benefits for the industry; we simply wouldn't know because most companies involved aren't particularly concerned with that, since the immediate financial gains they can make by charging big bucks end up being so large and so appealing.
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Originally posted by inspiration4
Lol tossing out names now are we?
And it's less me being a sociopath, and more you lacking fundamental reading comprehension skills. If you had the latter, you'd see I'm only explaining how the industry works. How that makes me a sociopath is beyond me, but do you. |
The fact that you're agreeing with the business end of things, and saying that it should be happening is what's frightening. 
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
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Only the poor ones
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Originally posted by inspiration4
lmao not to pharmaceutical companies. That's never been the case
And for the record, these aren't my opinions. It's just my understanding of things. And I agree that in a perfect world, people would dedicate their lives to discovering cures and then make them affordable, or even free, but it's not reality.
The reality is shareholders, investors, financial targets, and everything else that is common to any other industry. The medical one is no different. |
We're all very aware of this. The point is that medical care should be treated as a service and not as a business.
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Originally posted by Mezik
The fact that you're agreeing with the business end of things, and saying that it should be happening is what's frightening. |
I don't think he necessarily agrees - it's like playing Devil's advocate to an extent. He's just relaying the CEO's likely point of view.
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He doesn't actually want to help people? Burn him with acid.
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Utterly indefensible. 
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Originally posted by Mezik
The fact that you're agreeing with the business end of things, and saying that it should be happening is what's frightening. |
First of all, I never said I agree. I only explained how it worked, which was enough to get you bothered apparently.
And yes, there are benefits to the way it exists. The obvious one being that financial incentive is what drives a lot of the progress, like any other industry. Take away that and you have Cuba; Fantastic healthcare, but little to no progression of treatments.
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