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Music News: Camila working with Diplo/Major Lazer
Member Since: 8/17/2012
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Originally posted by Joyride
some of you guys don't see things like they are, if I were her, I'd do exactly the same.
Epic Records gets a big cut from their music, and they don't write their own music, AND it's five people in the group, they're not making much money.
she's a smart girl for milking her fame, because let's be real, they could easily end up as just another PCD/DK and have 0 relevant members, she's gonna get her money, and if the music is good, then good for her! I mean, it''s a business after all. get money, Camila.
the only reason the other girls aren't doing it is because the demand for them isn't there.
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So because I understand why she's doing it, I'm automatically supposed to be okay with the fact that it goes against the best interests of the group that I stan?
You act like the only issue here is that the people who are against this simply don't get why she's doing it. I'm pretty sure everyone knows her reasoning, but that doesn't mean they have to be happy with it.
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I find it more concerning that people would want to work with her voice solo, honestly.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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terrible...no team spirit AT ALL.
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Member Since: 3/12/2012
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I love 5H with all my heart but the group isn't going to last in general. While their names are in the spotlight now they all should look to start working on solo projects. The thing with Camila is the people reaching out to her are producers. Ally goes to organizations and foundations, Normani is going to be doing dancing and solo projects. Wasn't Dinah trying to be the first Polynesian disney princess? that would have changed the whole dynamic of the group.
- I do agree that it would be disrespectful if this song with diplo comes out while 5H is promoting 7/27 or any future project. But i'm pretty sure this song is just going to go on his album or a childrens movie.
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Member Since: 2/22/2008
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Originally posted by Javan
You guys continue to miss the bigger picture. On THIS occasion, IKWYDLS didn't cause much chaos but that's because there weren't many factors at play.
Who's to say that one of the other girls can't strike lucky and collab with someone, that turns into an legitimate hit, and all of a sudden Lauren is in the UK promoting her #1 duet, while the rest of the girls are all working together in L.A.
And Ally gets a hit with Pitbull and she has to go promote in South America?
It's these kind of things that will destroy the group so early on.
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Petty thoughts. These type of things should not destroy a group because, as they preach, they should give each other space to do their own thing. As they preach, they should stand up for women who work on their **** and are succesfull... if a bitch is so hard working that's she's willing to not sleep and take multiple flights to be in many places at once, praise that ****. That's a hardworking woman. But no... you gotta be petty as **** and get mad at someone who's using their goddamn free time to pursue **** that would further her career in the future.
I'm not missing the big picture... Y'ALL ARE. And the big picture is, as long as she fulfills her commitments with the band, there should be no problem with anyone.
And, I repeat, since I didn't miss your senseless point at all, I just don't agree with it. If Camila can juggle those things, the other girls can too. You seem to forget the fact that the 5H management is not scheduling these thing. If the other girls had offers and were ambitious enough to get their own manager and be a boss...
You think it makes ME mad that Normani is snatching magazine covers left and right? Bitch, I applaud that **** (even when I'm not 100% happy with her). But it goes the same way for Camila, even if it's a goddamn feature song. I just support them all and that's it.
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Member Since: 2/22/2008
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Originally posted by shelven
So because I understand why she's doing it, I'm automatically supposed to be okay with the fact that it goes against the best interests of the group that I stan?
You act like the only issue here is that the people who are against this simply don't get why she's doing it. I'm pretty sure everyone knows her reasoning, but that doesn't mean they have to be happy with it.
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It's okay to disagree, but it's not okay to bash someone and drag them down for nothing. It's not okay to blame the group breaking up on her. It's not okay to just be childish and try to put her and her talent down. All of these things are just wrong, because she's not doing anything wrong.
Like I said, as a group stan, I understand if you were upset (I disagree with it, but I understand), but dragging her is doing too much. And me, as a group stan, I just have to support her and try to defend her. Just like I would for any of the other girls if they had solo projects.
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Member Since: 11/4/2010
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Originally posted by shelven
So because I understand why she's doing it, I'm automatically supposed to be okay with the fact that it goes against the best interests of the group that I stan?
You act like the only issue here is that the people who are against this simply don't get why she's doing it. I'm pretty sure everyone knows her reasoning, but that doesn't mean they have to be happy with it.
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she is though, she's doing her JOB, she signed a contract and that is her JOB.
she doesn't really have any commitment with the rest of the girls other than doing her job, the rest of the things (such as friendship and loyalty) come naturally with being surrounded by them for a long period of time.
they're individuals who were put in a group to continue in the show, but that doesn't mean they're "one" in the way you guys think they are/should be. they're just colleagues, not siblings, or friends, as far as we know.
when it's all said and done, the rest of the girls might regret her decisions and not doing the same thing Camila is doing, it's sad, but that's how things work.
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Queen of networking and taking advantage of her free time.
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Originally posted by Joyride
she is though, she's doing her JOB, she signed a contract and that is her JOB.
she doesn't really have any commitment with the rest of the girls other than doing her job, the rest of the things (such as friendship and loyalty) come naturally with being surrounded by them for a long period of time.
they're individuals who were put in a group to continue in the show, but that doesn't mean they're "one" in the way you guys think they are/should be. they're just colleagues, not siblings, or friends, as far as we know.
when it's all said and done, the rest of the girls might regret her decisions and not doing the same thing Camila is doing, it's sad, but that's how things work.
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If they all started going off and doing what Camila is doing, promoting themselves as solo artists on the side, do you realize how much the group would suffer? People wouldn't buy into them as a group because it would appear that they don't want to be together. They wouldn't be as invested and wouldn't have chemistry. One person doing this creates an imbalance in the group, and distracts from attention on them as a group.
I mean, just from Camila doing this stuff, do you see the uproar it's caused from fans, how many people on here are expressing disagreement with it? It's clearly not a good idea to do solo music stuff while you're in a group.
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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A lot of you.
Acting like the song (if exists) will drop in the next days.
If the possibilities exist this song will drop in the future (as single or part of an album), maybe after 5h2 or a 3rd single.
So c'mon, dont be pressed, Stop with their bitchy and hate comments.
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Member Since: 2/22/2008
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
If they all started going off and doing what Camila is doing, promoting themselves as solo artists on the side, do you realize how much the group would suffer? People wouldn't buy into them as a group because it would appear that they don't want to be together. They wouldn't be as invested and wouldn't have chemistry. One person doing this creates an imbalance in the group, and distracts from attention on them as a group.
I mean, just from Camila doing this stuff, do you see the uproar it's caused from fans, how many people on here are expressing disagreement with it? It's clearly not a good idea to do solo music stuff while you're in a group.
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Nope. One person gettin' a hit actually draws attention to the group. Go and read every article about IKWYDLS and pretty much every introduction to a performance and it will say: "Camila Cabello FROM FIFTH HARMONY".
They can all do their thing, 2 of them can do solo things, one doesn't, 1 does a movie, the other does a tv show, they all are only doing group thing, whatever... the group breaking up WILL STILL happen, and it's because of their personalities, NOT because of side projects. When will you get it? These girls weren't meant to stay together for a long time and they've talked about it.
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Originally posted by Olhiver
Queen of networking and taking advantage of her free time.
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Such simply stated TRUTH.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
If they all started going off and doing what Camila is doing, promoting themselves as solo artists on the side, do you realize how much the group would suffer? People wouldn't buy into them as a group because it would appear that they don't want to be together. They wouldn't be as invested and wouldn't have chemistry. One person doing this creates an imbalance in the group, and distracts from attention on them as a group.
I mean, just from Camila doing this stuff, do you see the uproar it's caused from fans, how many people on here are expressing disagreement with it? It's clearly not a good idea to do solo music stuff while you're in a group.
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So what your saying is is not fair to the other girls
can you name a girl group where everything was fair for all memebers
EVERYBODY WANTS TO BEYONCE, they want to make sure that they are secure becasue fame is fleeting it can be one hit and your done. So let the girl put in her work and and secure solo star future
Its jsut yall who are mad
actual credible poeple are interested in investing in her
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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She made SHAWN MENDEZ flop. She better not ditch 5H.
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People acting like she signed some blood oath to be loyal to Fifth Harmony and ONLY Fifth Harmony. F*** outta here.
5 girls had dreams to be solo stars were placed into a group, they then found success. If Camila wants to take advantage of her current position to network and plant the seeds for a successful solo career, she is MORE than in her right.
If there is an "uproar" with fans, they need to get a grip and get a life. Nothing she is doing (or has done) has interfered with 5H or their schedule.
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Member Since: 12/16/2008
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Originally posted by jhn__
Ha chipmunk version of lean on is coming
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Ooooooo!
I'd be here for Major Lazer feat. Camila! Her Lean On is coming!
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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HATERS GONNA HATE!
Nothing of you all can say or do, change the game.
For me, the only true is "Camila has more chances to WORK not only as member of fifth harmony, and yes (with her annoying voice)"
People love her, and she is moving as hell up and down, if the girls (OT4) wants spend time with their families in their free time, while camila wants spend time working in her personal goals, I don't see a Problem especially and firstly if EPIC has their contracts, if she was doing something wrong it would noticeable.
So c'mon Grown Up.
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Member Since: 8/17/2012
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Originally posted by KarlosVzla
It's okay to disagree, but it's not okay to bash someone and drag them down for nothing. It's not okay to blame the group breaking up on her. It's not okay to just be childish and try to put her and her talent down. All of these things are just wrong, because she's not doing anything wrong.
Like I said, as a group stan, I understand if you were upset (I disagree with it, but I understand), but dragging her is doing too much. And me, as a group stan, I just have to support her and try to defend her. Just like I would for any of the other girls if they had solo projects.
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I'm not dragging her at all, and as I said in that other Camila thread, I disagree with the people who send her hate and insults because of this. But while you respect a difference of opinion, a lot of other people in here don't. I don't need to hear for the billionth time that she's fulfilling her contractual obligations to 5H - I get that she's doing that, but I can still be upset that she's showing little to no interest in having any sort of future with the group, and is instead just doing the bare minimum of what her job and contract requires her to do.
People (again, not you) who clearly forget how much I defended her during IKWYDLS are acting like I'm comparing her to the devil by merely voicing my disagreement, when I think I have a reasonable reason to not be thrilled.
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Member Since: 7/16/2010
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Originally posted by KarlosVzla
They can all do their thing, 2 of them can do solo things, one doesn't, 1 does a movie, the other does a tv show, they all are only doing group thing, whatever... the group breaking up WILL STILL happen, and it's because of their personalities, NOT because of side projects. When will you get it? These girls weren't meant to stay together for a long time and they've talked about it.
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Nobody is saying they will stay together forever. People just don't want this group to turn into a Pussycat Dolls or Danity Kane. I have nothing against them doing side projects and if she does a song here and there fine. But the group is still in a critical phase. Worth It opened the doors and Work From Home is there first real global smash. The group is a steppingstone, but I hope for Camila she won't crumble that steppingstone, until it is solid. Otherwise her situation could turn into a sequel to Nicole Scherzinger's first solo attempt and I think that is the last thing people would like to see happen.
I think most people are not even against either member doing sideprojects, I think the main problem is that we are still at the beginning stages of an album era. I think most people would like all 5 girls to focus for 100% on the group for the time they have left. They have a very rocky road with becoming a global group. They finally are at a point that they could make it big. They easily pull a Rihanna release wise and milk the group for what it is worth the coming 2-3 years and then go their own ways. I think that is what a lot of people are upset about. Not even Camila herself, but the risk that the fundament the girls build the last years could fall apart, while it is not even finished.
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