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Celeb News: EW: Summer 2011 Winners & Losers (Music)
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
BEYONCE AND LADY GAGA
Their albums debuted big, buth both ladies failed to meet high expectations, suffering from disappointing singles and lackluster videos.
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Gaga's videos are a hit or miss this era, but they are not "lackluster" (except maybe TEOG ). And Judas is one of her best videos as well. So I'm not sure where they're going here.
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Originally posted by Rigged
how many pop albums cross the 4 million mark these days? I'm not trying to shade Beyonce or anything but her last album sold just 6 million (5.5 million according to mediatraffic) after 8 singles/videos, a platinum edition, huge promo, critical acclaim, Grammys, etc Anyway, as Billboard said if you convert Katy's singles to track equivalent albums she has sold 7 million albums and tracks equivalent worldwide, an advantage Beyonce doesn't have specially with her last album
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Most artists don't have to fall back on that "track equivalent albums" ******** because they can actually sell albums. What you seem to be missing is that Teenage Dream has FIVE #1 SINGLES, so logic dictates that it should be selling like hot cakes, but it's not, so... For a regular album with a few hits, TD is doing fine, but being an album with a historic amount of #1s, it's not doing so hot.
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Originally posted by FX07
Winners: Adele, Katy Perry, Britney Spears, LMFAO, Pitbull, Nicki Minaj, Lil Wayne. I would say those are the big winners. Everyone seems to be always talking about them. Kanye/Jay-Z did decent with their album. Nothing amazing.
Lady Gaga has clearly lost popularity from the Fame/Fame Moster era, though she is far from being a loser. She still doesn't have a flop single to her name (Judas was a disappointment, not a flop). Beyonce's single sales this era are shockingly bad. Although Love On Top is doing well on iTunes so far. She is definitely a loser, I think. Surprising to say that about Beyonce.
Are Kesha and The Black Eyed Peas even alive?
And I gotta mention Maroon 5, Foster the People, Hot Chelle Rae, Rihanna, Bad Meets Evil, and Cobra Starship. I feel like we didn't hear a whole lot from them but they all had a hit this summer...or their song is climbing up the charts and is on its way to becoming a hit.
I can't stress enough how lackluster this summer was in terms of music.
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I mean, IA with what you said, but you don't sell 4.5 million copies of your latest album in three months if you've "lost popularity". This era, Gaga is selling albums at a faster rate than her last two eras. It took an entire year for TF to sell 6,000,000 copies (same with TFM), and only three months for BTW to sell 4,500,000 copies. Her singles are obviously not doing as well, but her album sales are fantastic.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
LOSERS
BEYONCE AND LADY GAGA
Their albums debuted big, buth both ladies failed to meet high expectations, suffering from disappointing singles and lackluster videos.
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Originally posted by Anthagio
Most artists don't have to fall back on that "track equivalent albums" ******** because they can actually sell albums. What you seem to be missing is that Teenage Dream has FIVE #1 SINGLES, so logic dictates that it should be selling like hot cakes, but it's not, so... For a regular album with a few hits, TD is doing fine, but being an album with a historic amount of #1s, it's not doing so hot.
I mean, IA with what you said, but you don't sell 4.5 million copies of your latest album in three months if you've "lost popularity". This era, Gaga is selling albums at a faster rate than her last two eras. It took an entire year for TF to sell 6,000,000 copies (same with TFM), and only three months for BTW to sell 4,500,000 copies. Her singles are obviously not doing as well, but her album sales are fantastic.
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Gaga has lost popularity. In single sales AND album sales. The Fame and Fame Monster sold about 6 million, you're right. Born This Way sold over 1 million in it's first week. Since then, it has sold an additional 700k. So it might make it to 2 million. Impressive in this day and age, but it does indicate a drop in popularity. I mean, her first album didn't come out in the 90's, it came out 3 years ago.
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Originally posted by Anthagio
Most artists don't have to fall back on that "track equivalent albums" ******** because they can actually sell albums. What you seem to be missing is that Teenage Dream has FIVE #1 SINGLES, so logic dictates that it should be selling like hot cakes, but it's not, so... For a regular album with a few hits, TD is doing fine, but being an album with a historic amount of #1s, it's not doing so hot.
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What I don't get though is that Gaga and Beyonce are not doing any better than her specially in the US, when supposedly they don't need #1 hits to sell albums since they are considered "album sellers", the reality is that BTW would be stuck at 1.3 million if it wasn't for the $0.99 discount, and Beyonce is having a hard time going platinum, I see no lies with what EW is saying about them
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Originally posted by Rigged
how many pop albums cross the 4 million mark these days? I'm not trying to shade Beyonce or anything but her last album sold just 6 million (5.5 million according to mediatraffic) after 8 singles/videos, a platinum edition, huge promo, critical acclaim, Grammys, etc Anyway, as Billboard said if you convert Katy's singles to track equivalent albums she has sold 7 million albums and tracks equivalent worldwide, an advantage Beyonce doesn't have specially with her current album
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Wikipedia doesn't agree.
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As of March 2011, I Am... Sasha Fierce had sold over seven million copies worldwide
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TRUE TEA!!
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Originally posted by Lipton
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What creature do you stan for? Surely I won't even be able to locate them on Wikipedia.
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Katy stans trying Beyoncé? I've seen it all
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
WINNERS
LOSERS
BEYONCE AND LADY GAGA
Their albums debuted big, buth both ladies failed to meet high expectations, suffering from disappointing singles and lackluster videos.
Thoughts?
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Lady GaGa has better videos than Beyonce, that's for sure. Beyonce's videos look like they cost like 1k.
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First single impressions always have an impact on the album selling IMHO.
See Russian Roulette- Rihanna & Run The World- Beyonce
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Create songs in there own way but should have stayed on as album tracks.
But I don't think this has to do with anything on this topic so I'll just shut up
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Some pressed attention *****s shouldn't be allowed to post threads.
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
I wouldn't trust MrDeeds tbh.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
TD isn't at 4M yet (according to the only chart we have), despite 5 massive #1s, a year in release, incessant promo of all kind, incessant discounts, holiday sales, AOTY nomination, and all sorts of shenanigans from Capitol to keep the album - and Katy - in the spotlight 24/7.
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Originally posted by HouseOfFatale
Lady GaGa has better videos than Beyonce, that's for sure. Beyonce's videos look like they cost like 1k.
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i want you to remake the run the world video and see how far you go with 1 k ,.
and you also have to fly in the African dancers
oh and try to buy the wedding dress bey had in the best thing video and see if you have any money left in your account after
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Originally posted by Rigged
how many pop albums cross the 4 million mark these days? I'm not trying to shade Beyonce or anything but her last album sold just 6 million (B] 5.5 million according to [mediatraffic)[/B] :
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we dont now her and its passed 7 million now by the way
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Originally posted by FX07
Gaga has lost popularity. In single sales AND album sales. The Fame and Fame Monster sold about 6 million, you're right. Born This Way sold over 1 million in it's first week. Since then, it has sold an additional 700k. So it might make it to 2 million. Impressive in this day and age, but it does indicate a drop in popularity. I mean, her first album didn't come out in the 90's, it came out 3 years ago.
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Exactly, and BTW came out three months ago... To say she's losing her popularity because BTW hasn't sold as much as TF(M) in a fraction of the time is illogical and wrong. 2010 was arguably her biggest year and her latest album pushed 6 million WW, whereas BTW is set to pass that in less than 8 months.
Going from debuting with small numbers to debuting with 1.1 million (700k without Amazon) = increase in popularity. Common sense.
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Originally posted by Rigged
What I don't get though is that Gaga and Beyonce are not doing any better than her specially in the US, when supposedly they don't need #1 hits to sell albums since they are considered "album sellers", the reality is that BTW would be stuck at 1.3 million if it wasn't for the $0.99 discount, and Beyonce is having a hard time going platinum, I see no lies with what EW is saying about them
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TBH, Gaga is doing better than everyone except Adele at this point when you look at the entire, worldwide picture. You can have 8,000,000 #1 singles, but if you're not pushing a large amount of albums, you're nothing. Katy has pushed near 4,000,000 copies after a year and five huge singles. Gaga has pushed near 4,500,000 copies after four months and one huge single. I will repeat myself, for an album to score a historic amount of #1 singles, it should be falling off of the shelves, but Teenage Dream is not. The stuck at the 4,000,000 mark after a huge era. That's not winning, that's actually kind of losing. I mean, The Fame Monster had 0 #1 hits and only three singles overall and it sold around 5,000,000 alone.
Without Amazon, Gaga would be at 1.3 million in the US with one #1 hit. That would mean that after a year and five #1 singles, Katy would only be 400k above her... LOL.
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
Britney wasn't a winner or a loser. She was merely stuck in the middle.
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She's just received the Lifetime Achievement award. Pollstar reported a few days ago that all the shows have been relatively sold out. She finally got her first trio of top 10 singles from an album (with more to come.) She's getting her biggest radio hits yet. She's had two #1's this year. Five consecutive top 10 singles (four this year.) Femme Fatale debuted at #1 and got her more impressive records under her belt, despite the quite mediocre sales (still good for today's economy, and this is only her second first quarter release.) The album is pretty critically acclaimed with many critics calling it her best one yet. Considering the promotion or the lack of, she's doing extremely well. She's already approaching the 1.5 million mark worldwide and she hasn't left the country to do some international promo (even Circus had that little promo tour.) Oh, and all of her singles went top 10 worldwide too and "Femme Fatale" is the 12th best-selling album of the year.
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I cant at katy and britney stans trying Gaga and bee
First,Gaga ***** on all your favs combined sales wise, even if she's not selling like the monster era
Dear katy fans, you should be ashamed to enter this thread when your fav has 5 HUGE HITS and still cant crack those 2 millions album sales after more than a year , Gaga didnt even have this hugeness singles wise in the monster era and yet sold more than 4 millions albums
Well, britney fans.............at least you try , the only thing that can be mentionned are her single sales and still are horrible compared to the radio exposure she get this era, IWG spent like 2 weeks in the top10 with over 100 millions audience impression and TTWE isnt even 3 platinum with all the promo and exposure, dont even mention HIAM .............. now, her album sales?............... .........and internationnally she's a nobody, people forgot about her except in france
And bee remains unbothered when she's in the business for over 15 years, even if she sells 2 copies she will still be more relevant than your favs ....FACT
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
BEYONCE AND LADY GAGA
Their albums debuted big, buth both ladies failed to meet high expectations, suffering from disappointing singles and lackluster videos.
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That is somewhat true. Some of Beyonce's current songs are forgettable, while Lady Gaga's songs from the Born This Way are either over the top or mixed genre-wise.
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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Originally posted by Rîh.røx.
I agree. Britney is a poor digital seller. Impossible by Shontelle sold more than Hold It Against Me, and HIAM was #1. Its like the first #1 single in a long time to not go multi-platinum. The only decent sales are of "Till the World Ends". "I Wanna Go" has Britney's biggest AI and is gonna go #1 on Pop - the only single to do so, and the album isnt selling so you would think that at least she'd have digital success a la Katy Perry, but I Wanna Go doesnt look like it will even go multi-platinum.
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"Hold It Against Me" was released and left to stand on its own for a month and a half before the video release and it wasn't performed nor did Britney make an appearance or anything before almost three months after its release. "I Wanna Go" went platinum without any promo whatsoever and it will end up with pretty good sales eventually. It's a third single after all, her most successful third single yet too.
Singles do not sell albums. Promotion does that. And do not compare her to Katy, Rihanna got three consecutive massive #1's and she has yet to pass the 1.5 million mark and the album already benefited from a fourth quarter release. Please.
And Shontelle's heavily promoted sleeper hit sold only 1,104,000 copies in the US.
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