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Video Clip: Russia: Gay men beaten on camera
Member Since: 11/28/2011
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This is so sad and terrible and that guy with the girly bag was asking for it. A bag doesn't make you gay ofcourse but dressing in that what could be avoided (not that he deserved the abuse). Also Grindr ppl? Really??? If I know they do set up dates in Russia I'm sure people in Russia know too, so why do they risk it?
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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It's disgusting that this happens, but it must be highlighted that it is not only Russia that is treating the LGBT community like this. All over the world this behavior is promoted, with some countries even issuing laws and death penalties against homosexuals. It must also be said also that in Russia, it is not against the law to be homosexual, but it's rather the mentality towards the LGBT community that needs addressing.
I'm saying that because I thought the wrong things about Russia, it's certain people in it's society that have severe dislike towards our community, and not a sweeping majority.
In no way am I saying this is right, this is disgusting and a violation of human rights.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I still do not understand why they were allowed to host the Olympics, or why people are actually going to show up.
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by eddy223
I still do not understand why they were allowed to host the Olympics, or why people are actually going to show up.
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Because aside from the horrible treatment of the LGBT community, they are actually a great country, with communities deserving of the right to prosper from the opportunity of the Olympics. If anything, having the world's eyes on them, may aid the fight in an equal standing within it's people.
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Member Since: 2/24/2008
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I can't even watch it
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Embustera
No comment. You can't be gay in Russia, so move to another country.
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Originally posted by Embustera
Or maybe gay people are brainwashed by the western society.
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Originally posted by seanttz
If it's illegal to be gay in Russia. Then why are they dressing like girls? I'm not saying don't be gay. But don't provoke.
If you look for baboons in Congo jungle you'll find them.
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Originally posted by seanttz
Oh I wasn't aware.
It's complicated then. Cause I support gay people yes. But if you are in a place that doesn't like gay people don't go showing off.
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Member Since: 3/4/2009
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Originally posted by GagasProlapse
It's disgusting that this happens, but it must be highlighted that it is not only Russia that is treating the LGBT community like this. All over the world this behavior is promoted, with some countries even issuing laws and death penalties against homosexuals. It must also be said also that in Russia, it is not against the law to be homosexual, but it's rather the mentality towards the LGBT community that needs addressing.
I'm saying that because I thought the wrong things about Russia, it's certain people in it's society that have severe dislike towards our community, and not a sweeping majority.
In no way am I saying this is right, this is disgusting and a violation of human rights.
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I don't think it's fair to compare Russia to other developing or undeveloped nations around the world (especially in Asia and Africa, where anti-gay laws are rampant). Russians believe and claim that they are one of the superior nations and cultures in the world. Russia has greatly contributed to advancing the world culture. Russia has given us Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, among countless other legends. Russians have one of the best education systems in the world. This is why seeing this, is particularly strange in Russia. You'd figure, this advanced culture would make sure that inhumane atrocities like this wouldn't take place.
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
I don't think it's fair to compare Russia to other developing or undeveloped nations around the world (especially Asia and Africa, where anti-gay laws are rampant). Russia and Russians believe and claim that they are one of the superior nations and cultures in the world. Russia has greatly contributed to advancing the world culture. Russia has given us Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, among countless other legends. Russians have one of the best education systems in the world. This is why seeing this, is particularly strange in Russia. You'd figure, this advanced culture would make sure that inhumane atrocities like this wouldn't take place.
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That is true, you could think of it like that. I wonder where the hate is birthed from? I am certain that it's a minority that is hating, if they're as developed as we assume, the majority can't surely stand by this... especially when they're apart of the modern world. :S
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Member Since: 11/7/2009
Posts: 9,863
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Their laws against gay propaganda are so ****ed up and the government blinding itself to such atrocities like this is disgusting, specially while the rest of the world is having an eye on it. Moreover, I don't see how or why some Western countries haven't put out a word on it, considering some of them try to control other countries policies for things smaller than that...
Has the UN ever pronounced itself on the Russia anti-gay propaganda?
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Member Since: 12/28/2011
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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This awareness needs to hit global, so that others are able to evaluate.
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
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Originally posted by bullshizzlen
Buy a gun tbh
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It's banned in Russia
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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The blatant xenophobia here.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Javan
This is so sad and terrible and that guy with the girly bag was asking for it. A bag doesn't make you gay ofcourse but dressing in that what could be avoided (not that he deserved the abuse)
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He was asking to be abused, for wearing a bag?
That very thought of "hiding the gay" is why homophobia is so rampant, because it sends a message that being seen as gay is wrong. You're wrong, ignorant and slightly homophobic by saying that. It's one thing to think it...
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
Posts: 30,915
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Happy Olympics.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by keshaspearsxo
Happy Olympics.
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So what should the IOC do ? Have the Olympics only in Western Europe and North America ? Oh, my bad, that wouldn't work either given the several rights violations they all have in their track record.
For those who may have a doubt. I am not defending the people in this video. I find it appalling and sad. But that doesn't excuse xenophobic comments. The 'this country' in the first post being just one example. Homophobia doesn't justify xenophobia as a response, especially from people who claim they are enlightened individuals.
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
So what should the IOC do ? Have the Olympics only in Western Europe and North America ? Oh, my bad, that wouldn't work either given the several rights violations they all have in their track record.
For those who may have a doubt. I am not defending the people in this video. I find it appalling and sad. But that doesn't excuse xenophobic comments. The 'this country' in the first post being just one example.
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sure, because that's totally what I said.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
So what should the IOC do ? Have the Olympics only in Western Europe and North America ? Oh, my bad, that wouldn't work either given the several rights violations they all have in their track record.
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Why not? Most of those were in the past and today, those countries are trying to go in the right direction towards equality for all. No country is perfect, yes, but Russia actively glorifies this kind of behaviour and even worse, it's done through propaganda and lies. It's barbaric and a lot more than a LGBT-centric issue, it really calls into question what morals they have as a society and why they should be allowed be celebrated as such. Turkey can't even become an EU member, because of it's human rights policies, yet Russia has no problem getting this accolade. It's sickening.
Russia is lucky it has a lot of money, because that's all that is making this seem acceptable. No way they would set up the Olympics in a North African city, because that would probably be a "danger" to more than the gays, and of course, there wouldn't be the money to whitewash that.
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Member Since: 2/23/2012
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i really doubt they got punched and attacked for being gay. they probably provoked them , there is always a second half of the story.
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