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Poll: Bey vs Rihanna, who's the HBIC ?
View Poll Results: Who's the HBIC ?
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Beyonce
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40.79% |
Rihanna
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90 |
59.21% |
Member Since: 7/7/2011
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
... In the us.....
Rih tops worldwide charts
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lol 4's 1st week sales ww is higher than any of Rihanna's album's 1st week's sales and it's not even the highest of Bey's solo career
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Originally posted by Chamber
Who cares? All along I said RIAA, which is representative of the U.S. By the way, the U,S. is the world's largest and most dominate music market. And in the world's largest and most dominate music market, Rihanna on average can't push an album past platinum.
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Actually, Japan is the world's most dominant music market.
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Originally posted by Glam
It has everything to do. Rolling Stones are an iconic band that hasn't been relevant for god knows how long and still bring huge cash for their tours cause they're a nostalgia act and it doesn't mean they're more relevant than actually relevant artists. Beyonce's last #1 was released in 2008. Giving me Madonna stan teas..
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Sorry boo, didn't see the question tag when you said "And Rolling Stones are still relevant right?", my bad.
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Member Since: 7/7/2011
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Simply put, the only way you can consider Rihanna bigger is by apportioning 90% weight to singles and 10% to everything else. If anything 4 proved Beyonce's starpower, look at other pop stars' underperforming eras, think Usher, Shakira, Pink, Kelly Clarkson. Could any of them have inked the deals/gigs Beyonce inked before making a chart comeback ? Would Loud have smashed if Rih took a 2-year break after RR?
Rihanna does what she has to do to stay relevant
Beyonce does what she wants on her own time, whether u call her relevant or not, she's still signing dotted lines behind the scenes. Forbes always confirms those receipts
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LOL Behive are so boring no offense but damn always the Tour Sales?
ahaha i mean all the other things ??
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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The one not working for the other I guess.
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Member Since: 7/7/2011
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Originally posted by JessieJHeartbeat
The one who gets number ones, top tens, hit tours and hit albums on a yearly basis.
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what's a hit tour to you because LGOE tour grossed less than 50% of loud tour and almost rendered Rihanna bankrupt ?
TTT sold half of what Loud sold and so did Rated R, So are they all still classified as hit albums ?
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Rihanna is still working for the Carter family so I guess Beyonce is still her Boss...
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Member Since: 12/27/2011
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Originally posted by KK_Lover
LOL Behive are so boring no offense but damn always the Tour Sales?
ahaha i mean all the other things ??
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Okay, here are the other things...
It took Rihanna seven albums to barely outsell Beyoncé's four albums.
Beyoncé has proven that she can go years without releasing material and still be in huge demand (as shown by her new tour) whereas god knows if Rihanna can remain relevant by not releasing an album every year.
"Beyoncé" is a household name.
Beyoncé has more acclaim than Rihanna.
Beyoncé has more musical talent than Rihanna.
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Member Since: 8/9/2012
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Originally posted by Bey'Knight
Simply put, the only way you can consider Rihanna bigger is by apportioning 90% weight to singles and 10% to everything else. If anything 4 proved Beyonce's starpower, look at other pop stars' underperforming eras, think Usher, Shakira, Pink, Kelly Clarkson. Could any of them have inked the deals/gigs Beyonce inked before making a chart comeback ? Would Loud have smashed if Rih took a 2-year break after RR?
Rihanna does what she has to do to stay relevant
Beyonce does what she wants on her own time, whether u call her relevant or not, she's still signing dotted lines behind the scenes. Forbes always confirms those receipts
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Beyonce does not release every year for two reasons:
1.) Her label (like most) fears over exposure, after she is done promoting an album she disappears till the next.
2.) She promotes her albums for like 2 years with 7-10 videos, she can't do that time of heavy promo in a year.
You tried doe!
And to the person talking about sales 4 sold 2.7 in 15 weeks and Unapologetic sold 2.4 #LONGEVITY
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Originally posted by Bey'Knight
lol 4's 1st week sales ww is higher than any of Rihanna's album's 1st week's sales and it's not even the highest of Bey's solo career
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And yet all of Rihanna's albums ended up outselling it on a WW scale.
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Originally posted by KK_Lover
LOL Behive are so boring no offense but damn always the Tour Sales?
ahaha i mean all the other things ??
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well Beyonce also had a top 2 best selling musc dvds for 3 consecutive years within the last 5 years, we can compare that to the sales of the GGGB tour and Loud tour dvd sales if you'd like
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Member Since: 8/9/2012
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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
Okay, here are the other things...
It took Rihanna seven albums to barely outsell Beyoncé's four albums.
Beyoncé has proven that she can go years without releasing material and still be in huge demand (as shown by her new tour) whereas god knows if Rihanna can remain relevant by not releasing an album every year.
"Beyoncé" is a household name.
Beyoncé has more acclaim than Rihanna.
Beyoncé has more musical talent than Rihanna.
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Rihanna isn't a household name?
And if you knew about labels, the point of breaks is to GENERATE DEMAND, there is obviously less demand for Rihanna if she tours every year, and people clearly won't see her EVERY TIME SHE COMES!
Acclaim is debatable and irrelevant? Frank Ocean has acclaim but only 400k people bought his album, ACCLAIM =/= people liking you
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I'm not understanding why some members of the Navy get so upset when we post Beyonce tour tickets.
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Originally posted by pika
And yet all of Rihanna's albums ended up outselling it on a WW scale.
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not all of them sweetheart, I'm afraid I can't pretend that's true
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Originally posted by Bey'Knight
If anything 4 proved Beyonce's starpower, look at other pop stars' underperforming eras, think Usher, Shakira, Pink, Kelly Clarkson.
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P!nk and Kelly both sold more records and had higher peaking album and singles than Beyonce's 4 era with their current/last era. Rihanna has also achieved this with both TTT AND Unapologetic with its mere 4 months of sales.
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
Okay, here are the other things...
It took Rihanna seven albums to barely outsell Beyoncé's four albums.
Beyoncé has proven that she can go years without releasing material and still be in huge demand (as shown by her new tour) whereas god knows if Rihanna can remain relevant by not releasing an album every year.
"Beyoncé" is a household name.
Beyoncé has more acclaim than Rihanna.
Beyoncé has more musical talent than Rihanna.
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Beyoncé has proven that she can go years without releasing material and still be in huge demand
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Rihanna has proven that she can actually take risks and still have a huge demand (ie. Russian Roulette, Rated R, Birthday Cake Remix, S&M, Nobody's Business, etc.)
Rihanna is a household name.
What does talent have to do with who's an HBIC?
Beyonce has acclaim and touring, but Rihanna has album sales, single sales, #1 songs, streaming, social media, fashion and if you want to count it beauty, so what is your point exactly?
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Member Since: 9/25/2011
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Beyonce's last top 10 hit was 2009. Rihanna has had over a dozen top 10 singles since then. Her last album sold more than Beyonce's last album. I pick Rihanna
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This thread quickly turned into an embarrassing mess.
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Originally posted by Bey'Knight
not all of them sweetheart, I'm afraid I can't pretend that's true
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Oh yeah, one album which was her first.
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