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Discussion: Why are Katy's album sales so lacklustre?
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I trust the RIAA
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Afterall RIAA was taking a guess just like us.
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Originally posted by Miracle Whip
RIAA DOESN'T TRACK WW SALES
The plaque is FAKE
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Did Bonnie McKee create it herself?
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The fact that Rihanna fan made this thread gives me a kii
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The OP getting skulldragged by the Kats yet still coming back for more Like sis you asked for an official source, and I'd bet that the RIAA is a more official source than yo salty ass sitting behind your computer screen trying it with the biggest pop girl in the world right now but now you wanna deny it because you don't like it? What kind of delusional mess?
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Originally posted by Repo
People are arguing that it's not actuially official. It simply doesn't add up on a logical level. The RIAA doesn't have access to worldwide sales, Bonnie is being given credit for songs she has nothing to do with, and it contradicts other official sites that record sales. While not diehard proof, it's pretty suspect The plaque is most likely fake or forged.
Plus, why would the plaque go to BONNIE in the first place? It's Katy's album, not hers. Why is she getting a plaque from the RIAA for the album's sales, especially when it lists songs she never wrote or had any involvement with (such as Firework)
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The plaque is congratulating Bonnie for her involvement in writing an album that sold, according to the plaque, 2m in the US and 11m worldwide, the pictures just denote the singles. Also, not to argue over semantics but judging by the wording, it doesn't state that the 11m records are RIAA certified either. RIAA are certifying 2m US sales, the other figure is obviously from somewhere else.
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Okay let me clear up the delusion.
Teenage Dream obviously did NOT go 11x platinum. It sold over 6 m WW. Still VERY impressive.
Anyone bringing up that receipt is ASKING to not be taken seriously. I still don't know the deal with it, but the plaque was official and it was given by RIAA. It's probably TEA (track equivalent albums). So ignore that number.
Even if you consider that tho, her album sales are great! In this sales climate, where a number one album debuted with 50k, scanning >3 million is terrific. If you don't think so, I can only guess why.
In all reality, ARTPOP and PRISM's opening numbers were terrific.
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Originally posted by Repo
1. The plaque also has songs on it like Firework which Bonnie had NOTHING to do with If this was for her and not for Katy, seems pretty suspect that those would be listed
2. RIAA tracks U.S. sales. Why is it suddenly giving awards on worldwide ones?
I'm not even saying this to try and drag Katy's sales. It just doesn't add up, especially when her (within the last year I think) recorded sales were 5-6 mil and it's not exactly like Teenage Dream re-charted particularly high
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Hence why Bonnie is pointing at the songs she's written in the gif...........................
5-6m by who? mediatraffic right? well apparently the OP doesn't use that!
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Originally posted by Miracle Whip
RIAA DOESN'T TRACK WW SALES
The plaque is FAKE
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no one cares
RIAA > Mircale Whip
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
Yeah, then RIhanna sold 40 million albums according to MTV and TTT has sold more than 4.5 million. I have to be fair. This is for people comparing Katy with her.
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with 7 albums
Katy sold 11 million with one album!
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Originally posted by Repo
People are arguing that it's not actuially official. It simply doesn't add up on a logical level. The RIAA doesn't have access to worldwide sales, Bonnie is being given credit for songs she has nothing to do with, and it contradicts other official sites that record sales. While not diehard proof, it's pretty suspect The plaque is most likely fake or forged.
Plus, why would the plaque go to BONNIE in the first place? It's Katy's album, not hers. Why is she getting a plaque from the RIAA for the album's sales, especially when it lists songs she never wrote or had any involvement with (such as Firework)
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Plus we have sales from her different markets. And at the very maximum it would be like 6 million ww.
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Originally posted by Repo
1. The plaque also has songs on it like Firework which Bonnie had NOTHING to do with If this was for her and not for Katy, seems pretty suspect that those would be listed
2. RIAA tracks U.S. sales. Why is it suddenly giving awards on worldwide ones?
I'm not even saying this to try and drag Katy's sales. It just doesn't add up, especially when her (within the last year I think) recorded sales were 5-6 mil and it's not exactly like Teenage Dream re-charted particularly high
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They know it's fake. They use it to try and be funny as they do in many threads because they can't defend her in a serious way. So they have to joke about ha.
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
Plus we have sales from her different markets. And at the very maximum it would be like 6 million ww.
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
Sorry but idc for inflated numbers. Prism is at most at 2.7 million, while all trusted publications report her sales at 11 million overall ww.
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And now your ass is doing estimations?
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
Yeah, then RIhanna sold 40 million albums according to MTV and TTT has sold more than 4.5 million. I have to be fair. This is for people comparing Katy with her.
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So your source for Rihanna's album sales is a television channel that no longer works with music anymore except for certain times of the year, and yet you don't accept the RIAA source which is from America but actually has a higher likelihood to track album sales for Katy okay....
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The gerls jumping into this thread to try and come for Katy, she truly does have these poor souls pressed. Only the Queen!
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
Afterall RIAA was taking a guess just like us.
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I'm not really sure why you're still trying. You've already been dragged numerous times in this thread with your fave's sales which are worse than Katy's. And the sad part is that this is not the first time you've made a thread related to Katy. I get you're obsessed but this is just too much.
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
Okay let me clear up the delusion.
Teenage Dream obviously did NOT go 11x platinum. It sold over 6 m WW. Still VERY impressive.
Anyone bringing up that receipt is ASKING to not be taken seriously. I still don't know the deal with it, but the plaque was official and it was given by RIAA. It's probably TEA (track equivalent albums). So ignore that number.
Even if you consider that tho, her album sales are great! In this sales climate, where a number one album debuted with 50k, scanning >3 million is terrific. If you don't think so, I can only guess why.
In all reality, ARTPOP and PRISM's opening numbers were terrific.
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Well. Great respect for this.
It is like me saying Loud sold 11 mllion ww instead of 6. There are the sales from the biggest markets so no one isn't that stupid to make calculations and see that number is out of this world. But again for the sincerity.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Repo
People are arguing that it's not actuially official. It simply doesn't add up on a logical level. The RIAA doesn't have access to worldwide sales, Bonnie is being given credit for songs she has nothing to do with, and it contradicts other official sites that record sales. While not diehard proof, it's pretty suspect The plaque is most likely fake or forged.
Plus, why would the plaque go to BONNIE in the first place? It's Katy's album, not hers. Why is she getting a plaque from the RIAA for the album's sales, especially when it lists songs she never wrote or had any involvement with (such as Firework)
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The plaque is not FAKE nor FORGED. RIAA used a different method of counting sales (most likely using TEA (how many times do I have to mention this in all these countless threads over the years?!) and the plaque was given TO ALL who had a significant role in making the album, aka Bonnie. I'm sure Luke and Max got one. I also know that the past president of Capitol Records received one as well. It's not fake.
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Originally posted by lousaysthings
The plaque is congratulating Bonnie for her involvement in writing an album that sold 2m in the US and 11m worldwide, the pictures just denote the singles. Also, not to argue over semantics but judging by the wording, it doesn't state that the 11m records are RIAA certified either. RIAA are certifying 2m US sales, the other figure is obviously from somewhere else.
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All of that makes sense, but it also makes the 11m even more questionable. It's coming from an unknown source that no one can ACTUALLY report on. No one can find a source that states 11m. It can't be the RIAA because they don't track worldwide sales. Not to accuse Bonnie of forgery or the RIAA of trying to inflate Katy's sales, but it simply doesn't make sense when compared to the many sites that track sales (and even if Mediatraffic isn't perfect, I've never seen it be THAT off before ) The plaque's reliability is very questionable until we can figure out where the 11m sales actually came from
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Originally posted by RoarRiteNow1
The OP getting skulldragged by the Kats yet still coming back for more Like sis you asked for an official source, and I'd bet that the RIAA is a more official source than yo salty ass sitting behind your computer screen trying it with the biggest pop girl in the world right now but now you wanna deny it because you don't like it? What kind of delusional mess?
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i'm rolling
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Originally posted by DanceForYou
They know it's fake. They use it to try and be funny as they do in many threads because they can't defend her in a serious way. So they have to joke about ha.
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No one is trying to be funny, I used mediatraffic #s and the OP came at me saying she/he doesn't use them
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
Sorry but idc for inflated numbers. Prism is at most at 2.7 million, while all trusted publications report her sales at 11 million overall ww.
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so I used the plaque as an official source? if she/he wants one then I'll give her/him one.
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Originally posted by KatyLegendperry
Rihanna's album sales:
30 million according to MTV (March 2013). She has 7 albums. That's an average of 4.3 million.
Katy's album sales:
11 million according to Capital FM (October 2013), before PRISM came out when she only had 2 albums. That's an average of 5.5 million.
So if you were trying to ironically drag your own fave, you've suceeded in doing so. If this wasn't intentional, maybe you should stop before you embarrass yourself even more
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While these might be the numbers, they're void of any context and therefore, at least a little misleading.
One major issue to factor in is that most of Rihanna's albums have been released exactly one year after the one before it, which greatly diminishes any further sales (and obviously promotion) of those albums.
And even with such a constant supply she's been able to maintain a steady demand (if not an increase) in sales over the years. So yes, her sales per album are smaller than Katy's, but that's expected given the nature if her release frequency.
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