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Discussion: Is "Writing" Your Own Songs Tragically Overrated?
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Once again, this has to turn into a drag-fest. So predictable.
Never change, ATRL, never change.
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Nope!
I swear to God, man, everything in life is old
And the only thing that change is the price of gold
Even in the afterlife I’m a fight your soul
'Cause the second time around I’ll be twice as bold
So, do you take me to be who I am?
To have and to hold 'til death do us part?
'Cause if not it’s just best we both part
'Cause how am I supposed to finish what you start?
You got me thinkin’ twice to just breathe
Then you say I won’t survive if I leave
But I got a couple of tricks up my sleeve
I no longer need your attention, at ease
Talent.
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Not really. It's rated just right.
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Fenty getting read, dragged, punched and clocked to the pits of hell and back.
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
I'll leave it at this.
Brandy is an icon. You are not in the studio with Rihanna. & you have not witnessed beyonce copy. I don't know what Brandy's "relevance" has to do with my initial comment, but You need to have a seat. Thank you.
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You also have not witnessed Rihanna writing her songs and none vouched for her songwriting ability. Have a seat with me
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Yes it's overrated except when talking about All I Want for Christmas is You because it adds millions to Mariah's checking account every year
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Quote:
Originally posted by Willy.
Nope!
I swear to God, man, everything in life is old
And the only thing that change is the price of gold
Even in the afterlife I’m a fight your soul
'Cause the second time around I’ll be twice as bold
So, do you take me to be who I am?
To have and to hold 'til death do us part?
'Cause if not it’s just best we both part
'Cause how am I supposed to finish what you start?
You got me thinkin’ twice to just breathe
Then you say I won’t survive if I leave
But I got a couple of tricks up my sleeve
I no longer need your attention, at ease
Talent.
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"Here I Am" is flawless.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Writing lyrics are overrated, and this is coming from a person who stans for Lou Reed and Patti Smith, as long as they are good it doesn't matter and it does not hurt you any bit
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Quote:
Originally posted by castle13
You also have not witnessed Rihanna writing her songs and none vouched for her songwriting ability. Have a seat with me
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Hillary Duff didn't write that song, she never wrote i think
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I mean, I don't really judge how much I like a song based off of the singer's involvement in the creation of it, but I do definitely base my respect of an artist based off of how involved they are in their career.
I'd say Britney has a MUCH stronger discography than Xtina, Gaga and Katy, but I respect the latter three much more because you know that they put so much effort into their careers regardless of how awful/flop some of their songs are.
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Only stans of artists who cannot write songs will think songwriting is overrated. It makes no sense, how would a song with 8 songwriters in which the performer is rarely included (and if they are, it's for a very small part of the song) be more personal than a song written by only one person (or 2-3 people)?
Might only be my personal taste here, but a song written only by one artist will always be more special to the fans and the artist than a song written by 8 people and produced by 6.
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Quote:
Originally posted by castle13
You also have not witnessed Rihanna writing her songs and none vouched for her songwriting ability. Have a seat with me
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Writing credits are more proof than you trying to go against them.
There's my proof she writes, where's your proof she doesn't? I'll remain standing, thanks.
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And Rihanna has co written plenty of songs, so the shade is not only stale it's also inaccurate. My point is that a song written with some basic, childish, nonsensical lyrics doesn't indicate talent.
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You get GRAMMYs and Oscars for writing you know that right?
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I think the problem here is people bragging about the wrong things. Having songwriting ability doesn't make you any better or worse of a singer, performer, etc., but it's a part of being an all-around musician.
From what I've seen in this thread, those whose faves cling most to their lyrics are defending it, and those whose faves rely mostly on "powerhouse vocals", or successful singles/albums/tours/etc., are the ones nay-saying it.
A brilliantly-written song should be appreciated, as should a great book, beautiful painting, "iconic" dance performance, or any other form of art. I guess that we don't really like giving credit to the people behind the scenes giving us these songs, though.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by prunejuicemontes
No. It's not overrated. Songwriting shows you have talent.
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Not if it's bad, and a lot of times, it is.
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Originally posted by Jdella11
I mean, I don't really judge how much I like a song based off of the singer's involvement in the creation of it, but I do definitely base my respect of an artist based off of how involved they are in their career.
I'd say Britney has a MUCH stronger discography than Xtina, Gaga and Katy, but I respect the latter three much more because you know that they put so much effort into their careers regardless of how awful/flop some of their songs are.
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I would rather have a strong solid discography (not talking about sales, talking about quality) than have some subpar lyrics on a song (not specifying anyone you listed).
If an artist can write a good song, have it come from the heart and be meaningful, awesome. But if you don't have the chops for it, don't try it.
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Originally posted by Lxdy Gaga
You get GRAMMYs and Oscars for writing you know that right?
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Well yes, if it's written well, sure.
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