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Discussion: Ed used a writing camp
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Originally posted by J a y
Read the lyrics above and then dare to tell me your faves forty-person writing camps even come close to this.
The nerve. Your fave can't write. She can barely sing. Spotify is cheap. Please get better taste.
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These lyrics are cliche and elementary as hell though 
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nnnn y'all clearly didn't watch the video. He collaborated with writers (as he has always done) and while they worked together they stayed at his house. It's not like he went to a cabin with a bunch of industry writers and wrote the entire album in a week  Stay pressed that a straight male is slaying 
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
In the directors screening, she actually states how Yonce came about and it was Justin Timberlake beating on buckets and The Dream basically freestyling "Yonce all on his mouth like liquor". That's from scratch if you ask me.
Don't get me wrong, I am aware Bey is not actually writing her songs anymore like she did back during DC days, but I think some of you are totally underestimating her input on the development of her songs. She's very heavily involved.
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Justin Timberlake beating on buckets
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The Dream basically freestyling "Yonce all on his mouth like liquor"
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I absolutely do think she's heavily involved, though, and don't think her songs would be what they are if she wasn't. I just believe that she only starts working her magic when a rough skeleton of the song already exists.
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
the beyhive trying it when Beyonce claims things that she didn't write as her own. lets see when the credits come out hm?  |
She doesn't, for the 45,234.984th time.
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Originally posted by SilverSky
Nothing wrong with being honest. Songwriting is a talent and it is not as easy as some think. That is why you rarely if ever see people writing solo. Taylor Swift is the only current artist who writes most if not all of her stuff as well as writing songs for others.
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Ed does too, just as much as Taylor  He writes for others as well. Again, this isn't a "writing camp". Actually watch the interview.
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Originally posted by A Little Unruly
I absolutely do think she's heavily involved, though, and don't think her songs would be what they are if she wasn't. I just believe that she only starts working her magic when a rough skeleton of the song already exists.
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This 100%, thank you  She is VERY involved and makes the songs what they are. But she's not as much of a writer a someone like Ed (and there's nothing wrong that, she makes up for it in other areas).
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
I'm not hating at all. I like Beyonce sis. I'm just pointing out the difference.
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What difference tho? And you're not "just pointing out" anything, but you're doing is being a hater and it's obvious. Kelly don't write all her music and uses camps I'm sure. Whether she's open and honest- like some credible artists are- or not.
Lastly, & most importantly, you're capping for this white man who is so talented that it doesn't even matter if there is a difference between his camp or Beys. Like.. what's the difference "sis" if one camp makes the better music than the other all collaborative camp? None. It's about the end result at the end of the day.
You can sit here and say there's a difference but guess what? You didn't even know he used camps period and prob would be in here arguing people down about how much of a artists he is for never using a camp had this thread not been created.
Taylor Swift, Adele, Beyoncé, Kelly they all collaborate with people to diff levels. It's always levels to anything, duh. But what you are most certainly forgetting and I don't wanna keep seeing you spread false info:
Beyonce uses camps sometimes, other times she uses other people songs who have written for her with her in mind, sometimes she writes entire songs (Die with you- while playing the Piano but I'm sleep), and MOST times- she tell writers what she's looking for and they do just that then obviously in Beyoncé fashion she'll radically change lyrics, song structures, harmonies and melodies, just to add texture to the song.
And often times she'll change a word- to get ha credit- or not change a word and keep SONG the exact same way, but slay it down.
I've been watching you hate for a v long time and it's unbecoming honestly. You stan for Gaga and Kelly right? Shame really. Since I like both and never find ways to nitpick then apart, but do you sis!
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Originally posted by AwardLegend
What difference tho? And you're not "just pointing out" anything, but you're doing is being a hater and it's obvious. Kelly don't write all her music and uses camps I'm sure. Whether she's open and honest- like some credible artists are- or not.
Lastly, & most importantly, you're capping for this white man who is so talented that it doesn't even matter if there is a difference between his camp or Beys. Like.. what's the difference "sis" if one camp makes the better music than the other all collaborative camp? None. It's about the end result at the end of the day.
You can sit here and say there's a difference but guess what? You didn't even know he used camps period and prob would be in here arguing people down about how much of a artists he is for never using a camp had this thread not been created.
Taylor Swift, Adele, Beyoncé, Kelly they all collaborate with people to diff levels. It's always levels to anything, duh. But what you are most certainly forgetting and I don't wanna keep seeing you spread false info:
Beyonce uses camps sometimes, other times she uses other people songs who have written for her with her in mind, sometimes she writes entire songs (Die with you- while playing the Piano but I'm sleep), and MOST times- she tell writers what she's looking for and they do just that then obviously in Beyoncé fashion she'll radically change lyrics, song structures, harmonies and melodies, just to add texture to the song.
And often times she'll change a word- to get ha credit- or not change a word and keep SONG the exact same way, but slay it down.
I've been watching you hate for a v long time and it's unbecoming honestly. You stan for Gaga and Kelly right? Shame really. Since I like both and never find ways to nitpick then apart, but do you sis!
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This thread is a mess and I agree with my Hive sistren
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Good! His ish was getting stale and hella repeatitive! Good to try new things and hopefully these other writers inject something new into his work!
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Originally posted by AwardLegend
What difference tho? And you're not "just pointing out" anything, but you're doing is being a hater and it's obvious. Kelly don't write all her music and uses camps I'm sure. Whether she's open and honest- like some credible artists are- or not.
Lastly, & most importantly, you're capping for this white man who is so talented that it doesn't even matter if there is a difference between his camp or Beys. Like.. what's the difference "sis" if one camp makes the better music than the other all collaborative camp? None. It's about the end result at the end of the day.
You can sit here and say there's a difference but guess what? You didn't even know he used camps period and prob would be in here arguing people down about how much of a artists he is for never using a camp had this thread not been created.
Taylor Swift, Adele, Beyoncé, Kelly they all collaborate with people to diff levels. It's always levels to anything, duh. But what you are most certainly forgetting and I don't wanna keep seeing you spread false info:
Beyonce uses camps sometimes, other times she uses other people songs who have written for her with her in mind, sometimes she writes entire songs (Die with you- while playing the Piano but I'm sleep), and MOST times- she tell writers what she's looking for and they do just that then obviously in Beyoncé fashion she'll radically change lyrics, song structures, harmonies and melodies, just to add texture to the song.
And often times she'll change a word- to get ha credit- or not change a word and keep SONG the exact same way, but slay it down.
I've been watching you hate for a v long time and it's unbecoming honestly. You stan for Gaga and Kelly right? Shame really. Since I like both and never find ways to nitpick then apart, but do you sis!
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He's not hating, like, at all, you're just one of the very, very delusional ones.
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Hes over 
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Originally posted by mathekr
Isn't his whole thing supposed to be "singer-songwriter guy on the guitar"? |
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This isn't a bad thing but it's the biggest kiii ever considering that he makes himself out to be this great songwriter.
Anyway, hope this will be good for him and make his new music more interesting since it was getting stale and repetitive. 
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Lol @ this thread
OT: He's literally annoying
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
This 100%, thank you She is VERY involved and makes the songs what they are. But she's not as much of a writer a someone like Ed (and there's nothing wrong that, she makes up for it in other areas). |
It's so weird how this AwardLegend person is coming for you 
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Originally posted by AwardLegend
What difference tho? And you're not "just pointing out" anything, but you're doing is being a hater and it's obvious. Kelly don't write all her music and uses camps I'm sure. Whether she's open and honest- like some credible artists are- or not.
Lastly, & most importantly, you're capping for this white man who is so talented that it doesn't even matter if there is a difference between his camp or Beys. Like.. what's the difference "sis" if one camp makes the better music than the other all collaborative camp? None. It's about the end result at the end of the day.
You can sit here and say there's a difference but guess what? You didn't even know he used camps period and prob would be in here arguing people down about how much of a artists he is for never using a camp had this thread not been created.
Taylor Swift, Adele, Beyoncé, Kelly they all collaborate with people to diff levels. It's always levels to anything, duh. But what you are most certainly forgetting and I don't wanna keep seeing you spread false info:
Beyonce uses camps sometimes, other times she uses other people songs who have written for her with her in mind, sometimes she writes entire songs (Die with you- while playing the Piano but I'm sleep), and MOST times- she tell writers what she's looking for and they do just that then obviously in Beyoncé fashion she'll radically change lyrics, song structures, harmonies and melodies, just to add texture to the song.
And often times she'll change a word- to get ha credit- or not change a word and keep SONG the exact same way, but slay it down.
I've been watching you hate for a v long time and it's unbecoming honestly. You stan for Gaga and Kelly right? Shame really. Since I like both and never find ways to nitpick then apart, but do you sis!
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Let's wait until the album and credits come out. From what I've heard so far there's a bigger problem with the music than the number of writers.
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