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Discussion: Linda Perry discusses Beyonce's songwriting
Member Since: 12/21/2011
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Originally posted by PULSE.
What? You clearly need you ears checked. Beyonce's changed the melody, harmony, arrangement and added new cords to Halo
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Words aren't the only way an artist can express themselves. Words are our most limited form of communication. Beyoncé adds magic to songs in ways no one else can.
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Originally posted by JessPop
I'm sure Ne-Yo and his hit "Irreplaceable" counts.
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Reading is fundamental
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Okay. Until someone who ACTUALLY WORKED with Beyonce says she doesn't add enough to get credits I'm not believing it.
It sounds like she's trying to drum interest for her new show
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Where did he say that? People like too run back to "Neyo said, Neyo said!!!!" But don't really grasp what he said
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by Johnny Cash
Its the truth, Beyonce isn't a songwriter and she should stop trying to be seen as one.
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The TRUTH is Beyonce has an ASCAP Award for Songwriter of the Year, the first black woman and the second woman overall in history.
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Originally posted by JessPop
I'm sure Ne-Yo and his hit "Irreplaceable" counts.
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Do you really think that if Ne-Yo didn't get ALL his credits and money that he would spend the entire 2013 yapping about how he was so excited to work with Beyoncé again and how amazing and talented Bey was in the studio with him?
Stop believing gossip blogs and forums. Use logic people.
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Member Since: 3/21/2012
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Originally posted by PULSE.
What? You clearly need you ears checked. Beyonce's changed the melody, harmony, arrangement and added new cords to Halo
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
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You don't know anything about songwriting so you should "just" leave this thread
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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And Beyonces Irreplaceable does sound different than Neyos demo.
Halo sounds the same, but Ryan is listed first anyway so...
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by LoveInStereo
Linda Perry is a huge force in the song writing industry. The counter-argument that any criticism is "obsessed haters" is so lazy on this site. Nobody's denying she's talented, but to deny that she hasn't earned her credits is, with no offence intended, delusional. Why would all of the evidence point to this if it wasn't the case?
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*offense
Considering she has an ASCAP award for songwriting, and multiple writers and producers who have ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE STUDIO WITH BEYONCÉ are confident in her writing ability, I don't understand at all why this washed up FORMER hitmaker trying to get press, for a reality show no less, should be looked at with any credibility. If someone who has worked with Bey for years were to doubt her maybe I'd understand it, but that isnt the case here, so no offense intended, why is Linda Perry acting so out of line and delusional?
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
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Originally posted by Walley
Words aren't the only way an artist can express themselves. Words are our most limited form of communication. Beyoncé adds magic to songs in ways no one else can.
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Please tell me what exactly did she change about the melody, harmonies, arrangement, etc. in regards to Irreplaceable except for maybe an additional vocal run somewhere.
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Originally posted by Jaxsin
@ the people who don't work with Beyonce talk about how she doesn't write anything, and y'all believe it.
and the people who actually work with her say how involved she is, and y'all don't have a word to say.
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Linda Perry is a songwriter, people taking credit of her songs has probably happened a lot of times to her so she knows how the industry works, its naive to think otherwise.
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Tbh this is true. Far too many artists do this. I appreciate Celine Dion and Britney Spears for going out or their way to assure their fans that they do not write most of their work (all of their wok when it cones to Celine was written by others) and I remeber Britney once said she couldnever take credit for writting a song if she simply changes a few words because to get credit on songwritting you need to be a key component in the songwritting process not just a few weds here and there
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Originally posted by Chronix
Reading is fundamental
Where did he say that? People like too run back to "Neyo said, Neyo said!!!!" But don't really grasp what he said
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Let me find that interview and show it to them again so they can read it by themselves instead of believing what other haters say
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
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Originally posted by satellites.™
And Beyonces Irreplaceable does sound different than Neyos demo.
Halo sounds the same, but Ryan is listed first anyway so...
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What's different about it tho? The lyrics and the melody is the same. It's literally untouched outside of the fact that it's being sung from a woman's perspective.
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Originally posted by JessPop
I'm sure Ne-Yo and his hit "Irreplaceable" counts.
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"That’s happened before. Here’s my thing, when I write a song for an artist I want that artist to take that song and make it their [own]. If you listen to my version of “Irreplaceable” and listen to Beyonce’s version of “Irreplaceable”, its two damn totally different songs with all the harmonies and extra stuff she put in there. So yea, writer’s credit because that counts. That’s writing. That harmony that you put right there. That little background part, I didn’t write that originally. You put that in there, so for her to take the song and make it her’s, I didn’t mind her saying ‘I wrote this song for my girls’ at a concert or whatever the case may be. Because in a way, technically, she did put her spin on it. If you gonna do it the exact same way I did it, you might as well let me keep it.” NE-YO
You were saying?
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Originally posted by satellites.™
And Beyonces Irreplaceable does sound different than Neyos demo.
Halo sounds the same, but Ryan is listed first anyway so...
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That's the real kii. All the songwriters are credited and paid what they deserve. These delusional stans are acting like Bey stole their paychecks.
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Member Since: 8/30/2010
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Originally posted by LoveInStereo
Linda Perry is a huge force in the song writing industry. The counter-argument that any criticism is "obsessed haters" is so lazy on this site. Nobody's denying she's talented, but to deny that she hasn't earned her credits is, with no offence intended, delusional. Why would all of the evidence point to this if it wasn't the case?
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clearly I didn't say linda is hater, but the interviewer or whoever started this rumor.
linda don't know what's it. she simply replied to what interview said to her.
the rumor situation. and she didn't say anything about beyonce's writing afterall.
but as I said, those online gossip people made up those rumors out of portion, out of text.
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Originally posted by IBeMe
Tbh this is true. Far too many artists do this. I appreciate Celine Dion and Britney Spears for going out or their way to assure their fans that they do not write most of their work (all of their wok when it cones to Celine was written by others) and I remeber Britney once said she couldnever take credit for writting a song if she simply changes a few words because to get credit on songwritting you need to be a key component in the songwritting process not just a few weds here and there
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Exactly, I fail to see how Beyonce has been a "key component" in her work outside of showing up and singing the lyrics that everyone but her wrote and submitting her name for top billing when it's time to collect those songwriting credits.
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Member Since: 3/29/2007
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Originally posted by IBeMe
Tbh this is true. Far too many artists do this. I appreciate Celine Dion and Britney Spears for going out or their way to assure their fans that they do not write most of their work (all of their wok when it cones to Celine was written by others) and I remeber Britney once said she couldnever take credit for writting a song if she simply changes a few words because to get credit on songwritting you need to be a key component in the songwritting process not just a few weds here and there
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Songwriting is more than just lyrics...
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by PULSE.
"That’s happened before. Here’s my thing, when I write a song for an artist I want that artist to take that song and make it their [own]. If you listen to my version of “Irreplaceable” and listen to Beyonce’s version of “Irreplaceable”, its two damn totally different songs with all the harmonies and extra stuff she put in there. So yea, writer’s credit because that counts. That’s writing. That harmony that you put right there. That little background part, I didn’t write that originally. You put that in there, so for her to take the song and make it her’s, I didn’t mind her saying ‘I wrote this song for my girls’ at a concert or whatever the case may be. Because in a way, technically, she did put her spin on it. If you gonna do it the exact same way I did it, you might as well let me keep it.” NE-YO
You were saying
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Game. Set. Match.
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