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Poll: More iconic career: Mariah vs Whitney
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Mariah Carey
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43.38% |
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Whitney Houston
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56.62% |
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Obviously Whitney
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Originally posted by Genocide
This makes no sense. A cover doesn't determine if it's more memorable than another song.
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no ****, that's my point. Just like the fact that AIWFCIY is a Christmas song has nothing to do with the fact that it's more iconic than any song Whitney put out.
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Really people think that Whitney had more obstacles cause she was black? Seriously? Her way was already paved with roses since her whole family was in the recording business and all of them extremely successful. Noone said that she didnt have the talent or that she became famous because of them. It was just easier for her.... Was she poor like Mariah? Did you know that sometimes Mariah didn't even have money for her FOOD!?! Don't play the "black" card on me cause Mariah is half black and half white and that was even more difficult for her life since people could tolerate black people in the late 70s-80s but not so much the interracial relationships and their children since they were considered outcasts from the black and the white communities together.
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Originally posted by °ColdFire°
Whitney only have I Will Always Love You who is iconic but Mariah have AIWFC,Vision Of Love,One Sweet Day,We Belong Together etc.
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I was thinking about how many Mariah songs I know a while ago and the only one that came to my mind is Without You. Funny because I used to be a fan of Mariah when I was small, but now I cant even remember how her songs you listed sound.
Maybe because Im from Europe and Mariah is quite irrelevant here for like 15 years.
Yet they still play Whitney and The Bodyguard is on TV at least once in a year, so there is many Whitney songs that come to mind
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Originally posted by Bríseis
I was thinking about how many Mariah songs I know a while ago and the only one that came to my mind is Without You. Funny because I used to be a fan of Mariah when I was small, but now I cant even remember how her songs you listed sound.
Maybe because Im from Europe and Mariah is quite irrelevant here for like 15 years.
Yet they still play Whitney and The Bodyguard is on TV at least once in a year, so there is many Whitney songs that come to mind
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Once a year since 2012? how convenient.
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Originally posted by Chimier
Whitney Houston not only became the most influential vocalist of the past three decades, but her success and accomplishments have a lot more cultural importance and value. She, like MJ, was vital to the progression of black popular artists crossing over in the modern era. And not just crossing over, but dominating the charts singing black music and/or in African American vocal aesthetic.
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Mariah had alot more cultural impact than Whitney.. 2 generation (or more) based on her Vocal style.. Ofc some of it came from whitneys impact over mariah but mariah DID MAKE IT A STANDARD on pop Culture! She make cross overs between Pop And RnB and make it the Default the current. most singers are influenced by Mariah than Whitney. Because Mariah Vocaly is far superior than whitney.maybe not tone(although thats debatable) wise but everything else.
And Because she had all the connections in her family had the best headstart... what was best advertisment? be Arethas God Daugheter and Diones cousin with Great voice..?Or being the little new discover of a new president of a company? and Whitney being a Black woman was alot easier than being a Mixed woman,
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Originally posted by sodade21
Mariah had alot more cultural impact that Whitney.. 2 generation (or more) based on her Vocal style.. Ofc some of it came from whitneys impact over mariah but mariah DID MAKE IT A STANDARD on pop Culture! She make cross overs between Pop And RnB and make it the Default the current. most singers are influenced by Mariah than Whitney. Because Mariah Vocaly is far superior than whitney.maybe not tone(although thats debatable) wise but everything else.
And Because she had all the connections in her family had the best headstart... what was best advertisment? be Arethas God Daugheter and Diones cousin with Great voice..Or being the little new discover of a new president of a company? and Whitney being a Black woman was alot easier than being a Mixed woman,
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No, it's not. Mariah passes for a white woman. Mariah has never in her entire life experienced the same disadvantages as black women. Are you stupid?
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Originally posted by DirtyMind
No, it's not. Mariah passes for a white woman. Mariah has never in her entire life experienced the same disadvantages as black women. Are you stupid?
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Then you know Nothing about Mariah's struggles of being a mixed girl/Woman... Whitney had none of these issues... and never impacted her Life nor her Career.. While Mariah's Life and many Song she wrote were about that issue of not fit anywhere because she was mixed!
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Originally posted by Bríseis
I was thinking about how many Mariah songs I know a while ago and the only one that came to my mind is Without You. Funny because I used to be a fan of Mariah when I was small, but now I cant even remember how her songs you listed sound.
Maybe because Im from Europe and Mariah is quite irrelevant here for like 15 years.
Yet they still play Whitney and The Bodyguard is on TV at least once in a year, so there is many Whitney songs that come to mind
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so basicaly you say that you will know whitney always just for 1 song? what other songs of whitney do they play? Mariah has Without you but also her xmas songs that always you will hear at xmas!
(and propably some more here and there...you didnt heard Obssesed? touch my body? Beautiful?)
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Originally posted by sodade21
Then you know Nothing about Mariah's struggles of being a mixed girl/Woman... Whitney had none of these issues... and never impacted her Life nor her Career.. While Mariah's Life and many Song she wrote were about that issue of not fit anywhere because she was mixed!
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Whitney was BLACK. Mariah looked and passed for a white woman. Are you dense? Do you even know the issues black women in the 80s music/mtv faced before Whitney?
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Mariah's 16 week #1, iconic Loverboy discount, BEST COMEBACK EVER with Emancipation, iconic fall with Glitter, I mean....
Isn't it obvious?  (Every single she released 1990-2000, not one flop, not even an underperformance)
I mean it's obvi Whitney is prob more iconic as a PERSON, but as a CAREER she had nothing OUTSTANDING outside of the Bodyguard era.
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Originally posted by DejaVu
Once a year since 2012? how convenient.
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At least once every year since 1992, what is more attention than Mariah got here in years.
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Originally posted by Bríseis
At least once every year since 1992, what is more attention than Mariah got here in years.
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"All I Want For Christmas Is You" will be played on Radio, TV, and Internet more then "The Bodyguard" every single year, and for the rest of time. 
That song alone will eventually surpass anything Whitney has done in her music career, that "One Sweet Day" and "We Belong Together" already haven't!
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Whitney along with Aretha Franklin, Rihanna, MJ etc but Mariah right up there with them so...
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Mariah has outsold Whitney in Singles.
Mariah has outsold Whitney in albums.
Mariah has sold more than Whitney period.
Mariah has more #1's.
Mariah set more records.
So I'm confused to as why Whitney would have a more iconic career. 
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Originally posted by DejaVu
no ****, that's my point. Just like the fact that AIWFCIY is a Christmas song has nothing to do with the fact that it's more iconic than any song Whitney put out.
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It isn't. Just because it's more convenient for recurrent airplay doesn't make it more known.
The majority of her #1 songs were flops outside of the US. Whitney maintained her global edge for a while, whereas Mariah only had two global eras throughout her entire career. Whitney has more global songs than Mariah does.
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Originally posted by Genocide
It isn't. Just because it's more convenient for recurrent airplay doesn't make it more known.
The majority of her #1 songs were flops outside of the US. Whitney maintained her global edge for a while, whereas Mariah only had two global eras throughout her entire career.
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And still managed to outsell Whitney despite having a limited career, so how is her career not more iconic? 
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Originally posted by iHypeMusic
And still managed to outsell Whitney despite having a limited career, so how is her career not more iconic? |
Your point? Record sales have nothing to do with it. There are dozens of artists who have sold just as much, some even more, than Mariah, and still are not eligible for being iconic.
Whitney is admired more as a vocalist, and her material is more recognizable.
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Originally posted by sodade21
so basicaly you say that you will know whitney always just for 1 song? what other songs of whitney do they play? Mariah has Without you but also her xmas songs that always you will hear at xmas!
(and propably some more here and there...you didnt heard Obssesed? touch my body? Beautiful?)
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Step by Step, Im Every Woman, I Wanna Dance With Somebody, I Have Nothing, One Moment In Time, Greatest Love Of All....
Actually Im saying that I know Mariah only for 1 song, hun. I cant even remember how that x mas song you mentioned sounds lol
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