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Discussion: Katy & cheap chart tactics: what happened years ago?!
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Genie In A Bottle went number one on the Hot 100 Single Sales chart the week it was discounted, back in 1999
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This article is why I dont waste time defending Katy or Capitol, its already done, build a bridge and get over it...to say any of you wouldn't do the exact same thing if given the chance is foolery...
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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Originally posted by Ruben
Just like Rihanna's name when she finally snatches Mariah's record for most #1s...
Her name will be attatched to Britney, Calvin Harris, Eminem, Jay Z, Drake, and probably more to come.
Still, she'll break the record.
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1. Aside from Britney, none of those were last second remixes.
2. Rihanna was a featuring artist on a few of those tracks, but Rihanna will have 11+ solo #1s by the end of her career anyways.
3. Rihanna had featuring artists on a few of those tracks, but Rihanna will have 11+ solo #1s by the end of her career anyways.
4. All of those songs you named are legendary smashes (LTWYL), not candy coated filler like CG that failed to revive itself this summer and is essentially dead.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Do you really think it would be such a big deal if Katy left it at E.T., then came back with the next album and discounted one single, and then waited until the next to have a last minute remix? I doubt. It wouldn't be such a big deal. Yes, this is a business and it is a useful tactic - but it is still desperate. If Gaga remixed/discounted all of her albums [opening week] from here on out, I would think she is was cheap.
Right now Hudson might as well be taking a sibling to prom. D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E.
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We're never gonna think alike. You have your point, and I respect it, I have mine. We don't need to argue, that's not who I am.
And for Lem, it could've been Britney, even the Lord, it was still a remix. It came out of nowhere, just when the song was #2. Same shiz! They performed it when it was already dead and the song have already gone #1. Britney was there, and they saw the opportunity, it's not like she just went to perform (if we call what she did "perform"...)
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Member Since: 9/21/2011
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I see nothing false
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Member Since: 9/24/2011
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Originally posted by Ruben
the 99c discounted Born This Way was also a good tactic. They were obviously after Britney's record for best debut by a female artist.
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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Originally posted by Ruben
And for Lem, it could've been Britney, even the Lord, it was still a remix. It came out of nowhere, just when the song was #2. Same shiz! They performed it when it was already dead and the song have already gone #1. Britney was there, and they saw the opportunity, it's not like she just went to perform (if we call what she did "perform"...)
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What's the difference?
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Member Since: 9/21/2010
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Originally posted by Ruben
Just like Rihanna's name when she finally snatches Mariah's record for most #1s...
Her name will be attatched to Britney, Calvin Harris, Eminem, Jay Z, Drake, and probably more to come.
Still, she'll break the record.
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Mariah did Collaborations too. #OOP
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Member Since: 9/7/2010
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Originally posted by csybeyking
This article is why I dont waste time defending Katy or Capitol, its already done, build a bridge and get over it...to say any of you wouldn't do the exact same thing if given the chance is foolery...
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Ikr?I'm laughing so hard at some ignorance in this thread.LMAO
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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Originally posted by Ruben
We're never gonna think alike. You have your point, and I respect it, I have mine. We don't need to argue, that's not who I am.
And for Lem, it could've been Britney, even the Lord, it was still a remix. It came out of nowhere, just when the song was #2. Same shiz! They performed it when it was already dead and the song have already gone #1. Britney was there, and they saw the opportunity, it's not like she just went to perform (if we call what she did "perform"...)
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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She's still an incredibly tacky human being.
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Not to defend the OP or Katy but I think a lot of you have missed the point of this thread lol. Obviously the point of this was to explore how even legends resorted to cheap tactics to achieve certain commercial goals.
Honestly though, Mariah's history is INFINITELY worse than Katy's. Add to the list how "We Belong Together" was given for FREE on her FANSITE.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM
1. Aside from Britney, none of those were last second remixes.
2. Rihanna was a featuring artist on a few of those tracks, but Rihanna will have 11+ solo #1s by the end of her career anyways.
3. Rihanna had featuring artists on a few of those tracks, but Rihanna will have 11+ solo #1s by the end of her career anyways.
4. All of those songs you named are legendary smashes (LTWYL), not candy coated filler like CG that failed to revive itself this summer and is essentially dead.
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Again, your opinion... still, CG went number one for 6 straight weeks, ended selling 5 million records, with an AI of 140 million. If you don't like it, that's your problem and opinion, but the general public beggs to differ...
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Originally posted by Angiee
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We fabricate tea now
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Whether a song is 49 cents, 69 cents, or 99 cents, if it's a GOOD SONG, people will buy it. Tons of artists have their songs out for free, but they don't go #1 because the songs AREN'T GOOD. Who cares if TOTGA is 69 cents? If people didn't like it, they wouldn't download it no matter if it was free.
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by Sammi
This thread wasn't made for purpose to y'all stop calling her desperate nor about reasons/situations other acts had.They have been doing the same(even worse and even more frequent).I know many of you are blinded by hate and can't think rationally but there are no excuses.
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The problem is that your evidence does nothing but fuel the fires. Let's face it, these artists that did this tactic were already very well established and cemented. By the time HIStory came around, MJ was a legend and pulling tactics was an attempt to stay relevant in the changing music world. It didn't quite work well for him. The point is that they'd already legitimately built their legacy and then started resorting to craptics
Katy is desperate because the song was released, then she'd DISCOUNT and APPROVE A REMIX. Why not be like Mariah or MJ and truly build your cache of hits first, then start pulling tactics? She's on her 2nd album and she's already trying to desperately place herself in the legendary league alongside MJ. Not good. Shows arrogance and desperation.
And why has nobody called out Mariah or MJ for this? Because they had the utmost respect from critics, fans and the industry. The fact that people are up in arms over this shows how much she's valued among the general public.
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
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This didnt accomplish anything Katy is still desperate
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That still doesn't change the fact that Katy's doing it. MJ is a legend and Mariah is an icon. What is Katy?
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Originally posted by YoYo
Honestly though, Mariah's history is INFINITELY worse than Katy's. Add to the list how "We Belong Together" was given for FREE on her FANSITE.
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yes...on her FAN SITE giving back to fans. And with a song title like "We belong together" the choice seems rather fitting considering how close she is to her fans.
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