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Exactly, we should only use Tidal streams as the only streaming receipts
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y'all say this but it's impossible to deny that TFM was released as a separate EP in many countries. like the US for example
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I'm still in shock that Tidal only gets 1m streams overall per week.
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Originally posted by iHype.
The Fame and 1989 are really close in US.
They're both 6x Platinum in TEA, and it's obvious 1989 will pass it, but you have to factor in she was a new artists versus an artist who has the biggest fanbase of any muscician on the planet.
Poker Face and Just Dance were also bigger singles than SIO + BS. But Style and LoveGame are both forgotten flukes of the era, while Bad Blood > Paparazzi in terms of success.
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I think being a new artist is conducive to higher one-off single sales.
01. I Gotta Feeling
02. Rolling In The Deep
03. Party Rock Anthem
04. Somebody That I Used To Know
05. Thrift Shop
06. Call Me Maybe
07. Blurred Lines
08. Poker Face
09. Cruise
10. I'm Yours
9/10 by new or newly popular artists.
They hardly ever follow that success with long-term success, though.
I also think being an unknown artist is better for one-off album sales in certain situations. See My Worlds, Up All Night, Need You Now, The Fame, 21, Come Away With Me, etc. Lots of people wanting to see what's there.
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Originally posted by Sinister
14 Skrillex & Diplo - Where Are Ü Now (with Justin Bieber) 0.2203
but but but...he's over!!!
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Skrillex + Diplo, ha power!
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This whole Katy vs Taylor stan war is getting so stale and boring now
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ramos
I'm still in shock that Tidal only gets 1m streams overall per week.
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The free trial period is up. It's probably down to 500k
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kworb
It really is, the views don't lie
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Ratty stans their taste + excuses
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ramos
I'm still in shock that Tidal only gets 1m streams overall per week.
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1M per day.
It's just started. I'm giving it 6 months, though I don't see it lasting. Especially by September once Apple rolls out it's Streaming; if it hasn't taken off any kind of way by then, then nope.
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Quote:
Originally posted by RobynYoBank
I think being a new artist is conducive to higher one-off single sales.
01. I Gotta Feeling
02. Rolling In The Deep
03. Party Rock Anthem
04. Somebody That I Used To Know
05. Thrift Shop
06. Call Me Maybe
07. Blurred Lines
08. Poker Face
09. Cruise
10. I'm Yours
9/10 by new or newly popular artists.
They hardly ever follow that success with long-term success, though.
I also think being an unknown artist is better for one-off album sales in certain situations. See My Worlds, Up All Night, Need You Now, The Fame, 21, Come Away With Me, etc. Lots of people wanting to see what's there.
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Being a new artist gave her disadvantage in album sales is what I meant.
Debuting with <30K and going 4x Platinum is much harder than debuting with 1.3M and going 4x Platinum following 4 successful multi-platinum albums.
Both their pure+TEA totals are 75%~ album sales, so at the day the advantage Gaga had with singles isn't near the advantage Taylor had with albums.
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Quote:
Originally posted by iHype.
1M per day.
It's just started. I'm giving it 6 months, though I don't see it lasting. Especially by September once Apple rolls out it's Streaming; if it hasn't taken off any kind of way by then, then nope.
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7m per week then.
Isn't that like 7k in revenue?
The way Camel is dropping money into this and all seems to point that is just going to keep flopping and flopping. An ARTPOP era tea.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
Views are a diluted source of currency.
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As a Gaga Stan (cash/credit only) it still confuses me.
iTunes/Spotify > facebook likes, views & Twitter RTs (not that Tiz gets any of this anyway???)
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So happy that Godga is joining AHS and she needs to look good now because they won't accept her ugly
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Quote:
Originally posted by iHype.
Being a new artist gave her disadvantage in album sales is what I meant.
Debuting with <30K and going 4x Platinum is much harder than debuting with 1.3M and going 4x Platinum following 4 successful multi-platinum albums.
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Yeah, I'm saying I don't think that's true.
All of the albums I listed in that post are examples of massive album sales at that disadvantage. I don't know of any other artists who have done the latter. Eminem, the Beatles, and Madonna come to mind as near antecedents, I suppose.
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ATRL Administrator
Member Since: 6/29/2002
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Views are the single best way we have to measure a song's global popularity.
iTunes is irrelevant almost everywhere
Spotify is too young and relatively much bigger in a few countries than in most of the others
IFPI adds ringtones, gives only the top 10, no transparency or methodology
UWC is cute but no
YouTube is all we have. We have to cherish and use this data.
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Originally posted by Goddess of Love.
This whole Katy vs Taylor stan war is getting so stale and boring now
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Yass let's talk Charli vs Marina
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Quote:
Originally posted by BobBertran1992
Yass let's talk Charli vs Marina
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No, dear.
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Quote:
Originally posted by BobBertran1992
Yass let's talk Charli vs Marina
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Charli vs Marina is extremely boring too.
Besides, Marina > Charli
Not much room for debate there.
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Quote:
Originally posted by RobynYoBank
Yeah, I'm saying I don't think that's true.
Pretty much all of the albums I listed in that post are examples of massive album sales at that disadvantage. I don't know of any other artists who have done the latter.
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Top 50 Albums this Decade
01 - 11,111,000 - 21 - Adele
02 - 4,676,000 - 1989 - Taylor Swift
03 - 4,664,000 - RECOVERY - Eminem
04 - 4,486,000 - SPEAK NOW - Taylor Swift
05 - 4,170,000 - RED - Taylor Swift
06 - 4,082,000 - NEED YOU NOW - Lady Antebellum
07 - 4,015,000 - FROZEN - Soundtrack
08 - 3,733,000 - CHRISTMAS - Michael Bublé
09 - 3,347,000 - MY WORLD 2.0 - Justin Bieber
10 - 3,192,000 - SIGH NO MORE - Mumford & Sons
11 - 3,153,000 - MY KINDA PARTY - Jason Aldean
12 - 2,981,000 - TEENAGE DREAM - Katy Perry
13 - 2,727,000 - BABEL - Mumford & Sons
14 - 2,542,000 - THE 20/20 EXPERIENCE - Justin Timberlake
15 - 2,500,000 - NIGHT VISIONS - Imagine Dragons
16 - 2,421,000 - TAILGATES AND TANLINES - Luke Bryan
17 - 2,417,000 - CRASH MY PARTY - Luke Bryan
18 - 2,404,000 - UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX - Bruno Mars
19 - 2,399,000 - DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS - Bruno Mars
20 - 2,346,000 - THA CARTER IV - Lil Wayne
21 - 2,345,000 - BORN THIS WAY - Lady GaGa
22 - 2,304,000 - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP 2 - Eminem
23 - 2,243,000 - BEYONCÉ - Beyoncé
24 - 2,227,000 - THE FAME - Lady GaGa
25 - 2,220,000 - TAKE CARE - Drake
26 - 2,190,000 - THE GIFT - Susan Boyle
27 - 2,185,000 - HERE'S TO THE GOOD TIMES - Florida Georgia Line
28 - 2,051,000 - THE TRUTH ABOUT LOVE - Pink
29 - 2,042,000 - UP ALL NIGHT - One Direction
30 - 2,002,000 - TAKE ME HOME - One Direction
31 - 1,939,000 - PINK FRIDAY - Nicki Minaj
32 - 1,938,000 - THE FOUNDATION - Zac Brown Band
33 - 1,925,000 - YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE - Zac Brown Band
34 - 1,886,000 - OWN THE NIGHT - Lady Antebellum
35 - 1,874,000 - 19 - Adele
36 - 1,825,000 - CHIEF - Eric Church
37 - 1,822,000 - IN THE LONELY HOUR - Sam Smith
38 - 1,806,000 - THANK ME LATER - Drake
39 - 1,790,000 - LOUD - Rihanna
40 - 1,761,000 - NIGHT TRAIN - Jason Aldean
41 - 1,722,000 - BLOWN AWAY - Carrie Underwood
42 - 1,700,000 - NOTHING WAS THE SAME - Drake
43 - 1,653,000 - THE LUMINEERS - Lumineers
44 - 1,650,000 - OVEREXPOSED - Maroon 5
45 - 1,624,000 - PRISM - Katy Perry
46 - 1,622,000 - BELIEVE - Justin Bieber
47 - 1,621,000 - WATCH THE THRONE - Jay-Z & Kanye West
48 - 1,615,000 - MYLO XYLOTO - Coldplay
49 - 1,592,000 - THE BAND PERRY - Band Perry
50 - 1,591,000 - SOME NIGHTS - Fun.
Compare the amount of albums on the list where the artist had a top-seller/popular era prior, to the amount where the artist was new / didn't have a selling album prior.
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YouTube views can be cheaply bought. By 100s of thousands. And record labels have YT by the throat with copyright law and distribution so it's easy to fake numbers to make labels happy. Freebies don't matter.
Cash/credit only
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