[Azonbey]

Originally posted by the floacist

Your post makes absolutely no sense. Beyonce has never considered by any of the directors for the Wonder Woman film or tv show. FACT.

There is no movie more hoodrat than OBSESSED. A film based on the iconic broadway play is not.

The main point your missing is that Beyonce is trumping over Janet in the Film Departments Dummy.
Beyonce has been invited to join The Academy of Motion Picture Arts which is a BIG DEAL.
Whether Obsessed is hoodrat or not.
Janet & her Tyler Perry catalog of movies has not.
Deal.

[DrunkNHotBoyz]

Originally posted by Hi.Def

There was no 360 turn. I didn't say anything for pages when they were trying it. And I clearly said "WAS" trying to stay neutral. This is mostly all jokes at this point anyway.

*inserts dumb smiley face*

Oh, ok then. Just a lil jokey joke sis. I'ma need you to take that tone out out ya voice though.

[the floacist]

Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic

hmmm didn't the "flop" 8th studio album"Damita Jo sell more than "4" in the U.S , and isnt' the 9th studio album 20 Y.O around the same U.S sales as "4" ...google is so nice

its not nice to call people flops when ur artist is not selling that nicely either lol , and she's only 4 albums in .

but then again

Beyonce >Jesus

Damita Jo sold almost 400K its first week with no hit singles = flop
4 sold 310K its first week with no hit singles = success

[FreeBitch]

Originally posted by dcode78

DEAD @ the Single ladies pics being posted..It only reaffirms what Lately1814 said..Beyonce only has one iconic thing while Janet has several.

2003 - 2004

[satellites.™]

Originally posted by Azonbey

The main point your missing is that Beyonce is trumping over Janet in the Film Departments Dummy.
Beyonce has been invited to join The Academy of Motion Picture Arts which is a BIG DEAL.
Whether Obsessed is hoodrat or not.
Janet & her Tyler Perry catalog of movies has not.
Deal.

[i spit on haters]

Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic

but "Poetic Justice" is one of the biggest movies ever made lmao Every1 knows that movie its like a "cult classic" ..that movie and Boyz in the hood will always be relevant even 20 more years from now. I'm not even joking until this post i didn't know Beyonce did a movie called "Carmen" , i thought Goldmember was her 1st movie. What was Carmen about? was it like fighting temptations?

It's a musical remake with a urban twist of a real classic film 'Carmen Jones' which starred Dorothy Dandridge.



Beyonce's version was a MTV special with laughable "acting" and is forgettable to the masses, that's about it. It made no impact.

[eli's_rhythm]

Originally posted by csybeyking

When i say flash in the pan its meant as she was huge for an era of music only...it may have been a reach but if Whitney can still scan 2 million WW then theres no reason Janet shouldn't be album to...no artist should reach the peaks she did and not be able to be certified...considering the exposure she gets from movies and the fact that she isnt deterring away from her past hits with her current music...

I honestly dont know of her lifetime achievement awards, however you're free to post them...

and i'm not here for all that bull about the "wardrobe malfunction", that **** is a lie, she did it on purpose and it didnt go the way she wanted it to, she tried a publicity stunt with the hottest male pop artist at the time and it backfired...the media panned her ass for it and she took it like a woman...her career was damn near non-existant after Damito Jo

That was Whitney's hyped comeback album after a seven-year hiatus, a divorce and a triumphant return from rehab. You know that is not a comparison. That album was a flop for all the press she got.

I mean, she's 40+. Even Madonna can't get a Platinum album in the US anymore. People don't care about pop females when they're no longer young and sexy. (I'm not saying Janet's not sexy, but you know what I mean.) It's an obvious manifestation of the sexism in this country in general. Male artists can still sell when they're old because people take them seriously. When females maintain their sales throughout long careers, like Madge, they're the exceptions to the rule. Even Mariah wouldn't have gone Gold with MOAIA if she hadn't promoted so much.

She got the "Award of Merit" from the AMAs, two artistic achievement awards from the BMAs, Lena Horne award from Lady of Soul, Legend award from Mobo, inaugural MTV ICON award, Quincy Jones lifetime achievement award from Soul Train, legend award from the WMAs and lots of other irrelevant stuff.

[Beyond Say]

Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash

What does something being "original" have to do with it being iconic.
Michael didn't originate the moonwalk and his movements were inspired by Bob Fosse too.
Look up "Michael Jackson Bob Fosse" on YouChube and you'll prob find a comparison video

[satellites.™]

Originally posted by the floacist

Damita Jo sold almost 400K its first week with no hit singles = flop
4 sold 310K its first week with no hit singles = success

What year was this now? Oh okay then, lets not talk about Discipline dear. Or her first TWO albums for that matter.

[Azonbey]

Originally posted by Hi.Def

This is exactly what I meant earlier. She may not have as many "iconic" songs but she is still a part of many iconic and historic moments. You'd figure the girls with the more iconic material would be sought after, yet everyone runs to Beyoncé first.

*shrugs*

I see the Janet Stans DODGED that too.
KI!

[fortheloveofmusic]

Janet jackson's discography is iconic on itself , her videos are iconic , her looks are iconic, her tours are iconic, her songwriting is iconic, her role in Poetic justice is iconic ,her innovations are iconic , who else did u see dancing with ****ing nun-chucks i don't wanna see ****. she is ICONIC .point blank period lmao ..Beyonce is an icon also, but Janet is just further ahead.Beyonce is on a roll tho she will be UP THERE UP THERE SOON .Very soon ,Just be patient Beyhive lol its ok

[i spit on haters]

Originally posted by satellites™

What year was this now? Oh okay then, lets not talk about Discipline dear. Or her first TWO albums for that matter.

You keep trying it with her first two albums but failing with each attempt, we already covered the grounds on her first two albums several pages back, and your ass was here when we discussed it so stop recycling.

[BLaCKPoWeR]

Originally posted by eli's_rhythm

That was Whitney's hyped comeback album after a seven-year hiatus and a triumphant return from rehab. You know that is not a comparison. That album was a flop for all the press she got.

I mean, she's 40+. Even Madonna can't get a Platinum album in the US anymore. People don't care about pop females when they're no longer young and sexy. (I'm not saying Janet's not sexy, but you know what I mean.) It's an obvious manifestation of the sexism in this country in general. Male artists can still sell when they're old because people take them seriously. When females maintain their sales throughout long careers, like Madge, they're the exceptions to the rule. Even Mariah wouldn't have gone Gold with MOAIA if she hadn't promoted so much.

She got the "Award of Merit" from the AMAs, two artistic achievement awards from the BMAs, Lena Horne award from Lady of Soul, Legend award from Mobo, inaugural MTV ICON award, Quincy Jones lifetime achievement award from Soul Train, legend award from the WMAs and lots of other irrelevant stuff.

CO-SIGN America will always be extremely sexist and extremely racist even when its constitution promises it won't be. SMH.

[Drais.]

Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash

What does something being "original" have to do with it being iconic.
Michael didn't originate the moonwalk and his movements were inspired by Bob Fosse too.
Look up "Michael Jackson Bob Fosse" on YouChube and you'll prob find a comparison video

Basically

Said this earlier. Most of the "legends" are far from original.

[Doc]

Seriously though, why is this thread nearing 1,000 pages? Are people really that concerned about whether or not Janet is more iconic than Beyoncé?

A mess.

[eli's_rhythm]

Originally posted by the floacist

Damita Jo sold almost 400K its first week with no hit singles = flop
4 sold 310K its first week with no hit singles = success

2004 =/= 2011.

[ChrisRTW]

Originally posted by Doc

Seriously though, why is this thread nearing 1,000 pages? Are people really that concerned about whether or not Janet is more iconic than Beyoncé?

A mess.

Because Cheap is shady

[Mr. Wonder]

Movie talk is really stupid. Poetic Justice is already a cult classic, and has been parodied on In Living Color.



Austin Powers was a pop culture phenom with the first release.

[BLaCKPoWeR]

Originally posted by i spit on haters

You keep trying it with her first two albums but failing with each attempt, we already covered the grounds on her first two albums several pages back, and your ass was here when we discussed it so stop recycling.

I wasn't here.

That's not even a fair comparison. Beyonce was coming off the hype of Destiny's Child. Janet started from the ground up. I'll give her that.

[the floacist]

Originally posted by Knix

Sasha Fierce was never that raunchy, She was slick, Sexy and dominating, Nothing of what Janet is giving in that gif.

Oh



Beyonce grinding her vagina in a leotard is raunchy.