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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (2005-2009 Archives)
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Exactly. If it was switched sales overpowering airplay, more pop singers would be successful again.
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that "more pop singers would be sucessful" is all BULL!! Again what is your definition of a "Pop Singer" cause last time I checked Flo Rida, Alicia, Chris Brown are all topping the pop radio charts as well as downloads & airplay! That crap is just an excuse of your favs flopping! Didn't "New Soul" just debut at #9 with no airplay, I recall "Gimmie More" also sky rocketing with huge downloads. It's not like downloads don't count anymore.
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The problem is, is that downloads dont count as much towards the chart as they should..
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Because billboard didn't want 98-1 jumps anymore
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
that "more pop singers would be sucessful" is all BULL!! Again what is your definition of a "Pop Singer" cause last time I checked Flo Rida, Alicia, Chris Brown are all topping the pop radio charts as well as downloads & airplay! That crap is just an excuse of your favs flopping! Didn't "New Soul" just debut at #9 with no airplay, I recall "Gimmie More" also sky rocketing with huge downloads. It's not like downloads don't count anymore.
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*edited cause we're already dealing w/this @ M&M*
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Rico, it's not like "Gimme More" was even properly marketed and promoted well enough to even hit #1, let alone it even peakiing at #3. Downloads pretty much SAVES a few songs from flopping entirely. If Downloads counted more than airplay, "Low" would STILL be #1 right now regardless of how things played out; which is a sad, sad, SAD fact.
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^Correct. But what I'm saying is if downloads counted more in favor, pop artists would have a higher chance at having #1s. Not even pop artists, but in general artists who sale a lot of downloads but can only peak in the bottom half of the top ten, or sit at #5 or #3 for weeks upon weeks.
Overall I'm saying if the public is buying a song, but radio is ignoring it, its unfair. Example, "The Way I Am" by Ingrid Michaelson. Great little indie artist song that went top ten on iTunes, but because radio didn't pick up on it, it only had that 35% downloads support.
But you are correct that at this point "Low" would still be #1.
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^^^Well, you would think that artists who are signed to MAJOR labels would wisen up and get their promotion (aka PAYOLA) game up. I mean; all the artists who have had a #1 either had a catchy song that easy to market to a younger, downloading crowd ("Low", "Kiss Kiss", "Crank That"), or a song that had really high downloads and strong airplay ("No One", "Stronger"). Obviouly, the pas few #1's haven't been able to be #1 without being #1 on airplay and downloads, where in 2008; it's up to the label to step it.
Because of the chart format that's used for the Hot 100, major labels that have the funds to get their artist's singles picked up into major rotation needs to take that opportunity. Onviously, payola is the only way to get songs played on radios nowadays unless it's an established artist with a great single, so labels might as well expect for fork over money to get airplay, or take the Murder Inc Circa 2002 route; buying back their own material.
If Jive had had put more money into getting the song played in the HUGE Markets like LA, New York, Atlanta, Miami, & Chicago instead of letting the song fizzle and expecting it to be saved by downloads, "Gimme More" would have peaked higher (but not hit #1 because of horrible horrible "Crank That".  ) [And I'm just using this as a example, like all the other songs with no airplay and downloads]
The Hot 100's format should force a lot of these major levels to change their marketing strategies. Adn for the indie artists? Well, yeah; I guess they can just get a Apple ITunes commercial, get high downloads and call it a day? 
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True. Jive is pretty lame now-a-days as far as Britney and Jordin goes, while Chris is doing his thing, and I guess that payola is the only solution to get DJs to play tracks w/o being biased against a few.
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Why would they have to pay for chris brown, everyone likes him
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I never said they have to pay for him, and not everyone likes him. I meant JIVE needs to step up and make Britney & Jordin promote.
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Downloads represent popularity more than airplay, this is an era which most people do not listen to the radio anymore, people have ipods and listen to music on their computers. Of course the Hot 100 has never been a true indicator of the popularity of music anyway, especially nowadays being so heavily based on airplay when so few people are listening to the radio.
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
Why would they have to pay for chris brown, everyone likes him
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Originally posted by brian06
Downloads represent popularity more than airplay, this is an era which most people do not listen to the radio anymore, people have ipods and listen to music on their computers. Of course the Hot 100 has never been a true indicator of the popularity of music anyway, especially nowadays being so heavily based on airplay when so few people are listening to the radio.
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I co-sign that.
People who pay for songs on iTunes > Radio Djs who play songs per checks. Period.
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Originally posted by brian06
Downloads represent popularity more than airplay, this is an era which most people do not listen to the radio anymore, people have ipods and listen to music on their computers. Of course the Hot 100 has never been a true indicator of the popularity of music anyway, especially nowadays being so heavily based on airplay when so few people are listening to the radio.
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that's true
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Flo Rida fends off Chris Brown for No. 1
Once again radio took the "Low" road, giving Flo Rida's smash a fourth week at No. 1 on the national airplay audience chart, according to Nielsen BDS, Arbitron and Radio & Records. Chris Brown's With You gave it a battle, and positioned itself with an excellent shot at taking over next week.
The rest of the top 10 is made up of a rather anticlimactic group -- no new entries and no dramatic jumps. In order, it's Alicia Keys' No One, Timbaland & OneRepublic's Apolgize, Snoop Dogg's Sensual Seduction Keys' Like You'll Never See Me Again, Rihanna's Don't Stop the Music, J. Holiday's Suffocate, Keyshia Cole's I Remember and Fergie's Clumsy, the only song in the top 10 that moved more than one notch (it dropped three places).
That's just the tip of the airplay iceberg; much more information is contained in what follows.
> The annotated top 10:
1-1 last week Flo Rida, Low (up 0.5% in total audience): Continues to gain (although the gains have been under 1% for the last two weeks), so even though Chris Brown is a lot hotter, it could still be a dogfight for No. 1 next week.
2-2 Chris Brown, With You (+7.3%): Flo Rida will have to continue to increase its audience, or almost certainly Brown will overtake him next week. But the outcome's still in doubt.
3-3 Alicia Keys, No One (-11.0%): Losing audience rapidly, but it will still probably be No. 3 next week; nothing's moving up fast enough to threaten it.
4-4 Timbaland & OneRepublic, Apologize (-5.9%): Slows its decline by a third compared to last week and blocks Snoop Dogg from the No. 4 spot.
5-6 Snoop Dogg, Sensual Seduction (-0.8%): Made it into the top 5 but appears to have peaked. Might pick up another chart point next week by falling more slowly than Timbaland.
6-5 Alicia Keys, Like You'll Never See Me Again (-6.9%): So Alicia's in the unusual position of having two songs falling slowly out of the top 10 simultaneously.
7-8 Rihanna, Don't Stop the Music (+3.1%): Finally, a record gaining audience, but it slowed by 50% this week.
8-9 J. Holiday, Suffocate (-0.2%): Moves up a point, thanks to Fergie's plunge, but hit a wall suddenly and might not be able to move further.
9-10 Keyshia Cole, I Remember (+0.8%): Still moving up, but barely, following a big week last week. May pick up the pace.
10-7 Fergie, Clumsy (-13.0%): Falling too fast now to stay in the top 10 any longer.
> Next week's top 10 contenders:
Webbie's Independent may fall short; it stuck at No. 11 and lost -0.8% of its audience. It should be easily passed by Sean Kingston's Take You There, up 6.3% despite a 12-12 chart move. And watch out for Sara Bareilles' Love Song, which continues to be blazing hot and now is on the verge of hitting the top 10 thanks to a 21-13 chart move and an 18.9% audience increase. A bit further down, it would be foolish to ignore the initial impact of Mariah Carey's Touch My Body, which hits the chart at No. 22 in one of the highest debuts yet recorded.
> This week's hottest song:
Usually there's a plural on that last word, but only one song topped the 20% audience increase that has been our traditional qualifier. That's Jordin Sparks & Chris Brown's No Air, which improves by 24.6% and jumps 56-44 on the chart.
> Debuts on the top 100:
Nobody comes close to Mariah's No. 22 debut, of course, but another superstar, Usher, scores an unusually high entry at 51 with Love in This Club. George Strait's I Saw God Today had one of the country format's biggest debuts, but that translates to a No. 75 bow on this all-format chart (still no mean feat). Debuts in the usual range were Phil Vassar's Love Is a Beautiful Thing at 91, Enriaque Iglesias' Donde Estan Corazon at 93, Ryan Leslie's Diamond Girl at 97 and 2 Pistols' She Got It (aided by the still-ubiquitious T-Pain) at 100.
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I wonder if Khia's "What They Do" will debut on the Hot 100 this week.
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
chris brown, everyone likes him
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Billboard Hot Digital Songs - Top 50
1 1 Flo Rida Low 178148 4 171713 2849840
3 2 Rihanna Don't Stop The Music 135469 12 121185 1054907
4 3 Bareilles*sara Love Song 113562 4 109330 1420121
5 4 Brown*chris With You 98346 2 96623 949556
11 5 Keys*alicia No One 85176 42 60110 2327350
7 6 Cyrus*miley See You Again 85046 1 84483 686424
6 7 Buckcherry Sorry 78376 -9 86289 679017
60 8 Winehouse*amy Rehab 76658 234 22934 1175513
8 9 Kingston*sean Take You There 71387 -2 72934 1061099
21 10 Onerepublic Stop And Stare 66917 46 45707 415921
17 11 Fiasco*lupe Superstar 62637 30 48176 421723
9 12 Timbaland Feat. Onerepublic Apologize 61952 -7 66504 3038120
2 13 Naim*yael New Soul 60042 -63 163100 358285
15 14 Swift*taylor Teardrops On My Guitar 52973 3 51666 1408109
14 15 Jonas Brothers When You Look Me In The Eyes 52812 1 52444 213041
13 16 Snoop Dogg Sensual Seduction 51331 -8 55530 437729
22 17 Sparks*jordin No Air 51232 16 44133 306371
16 18 Dj Hi C Of The Go Dj's Sweetest Girl (dollar Bill) 50106 2 49160 1147974
20 19 Webbie Independent 50054 7 46819 328626
18 20 Linkin Park Shadow Of The Day 49798 5 47269 700915
33 21 West*kanye Stronger 47711 51 31653 2609456
12 22 Spears*britney Piece Of Me 44700 -25 59346 813151
23 23 Swift*taylor Our Song 42144 -4 43760 1071674
19 24 Bedingfield*natasha Featuring Love Like This 41823 -11 46887 921341
24 25 Sparks*jordin Tattoo 41409 -4 43079 1276537
26 26 Fergie Clumsy 40391 -5 42408 1517520
25 27 Santana Featuring Chad Kroeger Into The Night 39862 -7 42840 844071
27 28 Garbz Ft. Soulja Boy Tell'em Crank That (soulja Boy) 38794 -3 39948 3341369
30 29 Brown*chris Kiss Kiss 38424 7 35808 1876361
28 30 Finger Eleven Paralyzer 37710 -5 39508 1838284
32 31 Maroon 5 Won't Go Home Without You 37703 11 34086 391461
-- 32 Dion*celine Prayer 37531 999 39 47533
77 33 Ray J & Yung Berg Sexy Can I 36473 96 18563 64992
31 34 Caillat*colbie Bubbly 35505 0 35449 2215542
43 35 Rihanna Umbrella 33612 27 26429 2570332
29 36 Aly & Aj Like Whoa 32150 -11 36012 179277
35 37 Plies Featuring Akon Hypnotized 31721 3 30814 678072
34 38 Baby Bash Featuring T-pain Cyclone 31194 0 31100 1635597
47 39 Soulja Boy Tell'em Yahhh 30296 17 25823 138635
83 40 Foo Fighters Pretender 30094 71 17589 592579
48 41 Janet Feedback 30040 17 25656 230428
40 42 Plain White T's Hey There Delilah 29946 7 27929 2807575
10 43 Petty*tom & The Heartbreakers Free Fallin' 29766 -53 63283 535175
36 44 Good Charlotte I Don't Wanna Be In Love (danc 29513 -4 30791 1040591
46 45 Underwood*carrie All-american Girl 29133 13 25853 177615
-- 46 Winehouse*amy You Know I'm No Good 28426 314 6866 412233
57 47 Michaelson*ingrid Way I Am 28303 21 23336 515950
42 48 Cascada What Hurts The Most 26711 -2 27237 208397
41 49 Cyrus*billy Ray Ready, Set, Don't Go 26391 -4 27482 580678
69 50 West*kanye Flashing Lights 25602 21 21088 311028
A Few Bonuses:
81 64 Underwood*carrie Before He Cheats 22739 27 17909 2171218
-- 68 Queen Bohemian Rhapsody 21843 184 7697 1104592
-- 70 Degraw*gavin In Love With A Girl 21735 583 3181 24916
75 71 Caillat*colbie Realize 21322 11 19179 258479
94 72 Feist 1234 21105 32 15940 821273
154 91 Lewis*leona Bleeding Love 16888 80 9402 69463
156 95 Jackson*michael Thriller 16197 74 9311 636563
86 114 Jackson*michael Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 20 13108 -25 17426 77765
-- 118 Voegele*kate No Good 12832 999 418 13836
-- 130 West*kanye Hey Mama 11804 464 2094 70200
-- 132 Ferras Hollywood's Not America 11652 999 503 12304
-- 140 Cherish Killa 11220 54 7297 32223
-- 143 Mika Grace Kelly 11027 424 2106 396539
-- 157 Dion*celine Taking Chances 10150 99 5089 263217
-- 158 Foo Fighters Learn To Fly 10062 37 7341 427951
-- 162 Jackson*michael Billie Jean 9806 67 5860 500612
-- 167 Adams*bryan (everything I Do) I Do It For 9630 163 3656 325647
-- 177 Adams*bryan Heaven 9285 435 1734 191631
-- 181 Groban*josh You Raise Me Up 9154 152 3634 643844
-- 183 Heart Alone 9063 397 1824 204333
-- 199 Woods*carol/timothy T. Mitchu Let It Be 8629 166 3248 36617
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