[cheers09]

Originally posted by Great Username

This doesn't work when the first 2 singles flopped and nobody bought the album.

why wouldn't it work? Rih is not a Katy who sells 6M off her third singles

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Ozzy8923

Yeah, AP was more successful than RR. Applause > Rude Boy & DWUW > Russian Roulette. The only thing is that Hard > G.U.Y. but the Last Girl on Earth Tour was a big bomb, so it evens out cuz at least Gaga's tour is doing well.

I'm sorry Ozzy sis what kind of DELUSION?

Rude Boy was a MUCH bigger hit than Applause. Russian Roulette actually went Top 10 almost everywhere, again much bigger than Do What U Want. And RR sold almost double what Artpop did.

[Great Username]

Originally posted by 2AM

How is my baby Shania doing in Vegas?

She remains forgotten and uncared for.

[BTrisc]

Originally posted by 2AM

ARTPOP did worse, just admit it. Even if RR was released when albums were selling a bit better.
I'll give you the fall from GGGB to RR was bigger than BTW to ARTPOP.

ARTPOP did worse in some senses, but it is certainly a comparable decline in success at the time for the two pop stars.

My point is that Gaga has the potential to bounce back just like Riri. Whether she will or will not has yet to be seen. If she can sell out tours, certainly she can sell albums and singles if given a proper management team and quality music. The GP hasn't turned on Gaga quite like ATRL wants us to believe.

[Vine101]

Best Sia-penned song of 2013

[GreasyBruce]

Applause is NOT doing it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rude_Bo...certifications

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

I don't think she was trying to trivialize that aspect of it. It seems like she was trying to highlight that building a relationship with fans through your music is a good way to commercialize and support your album sales as an artist, independent of the type of music or chart success you may have. A good chunk of the audience that contributes to her 1M+ debuts is the segment most likely to pirate music, after all.

I tend to doubt she consciously set out to trivialize that facet of being an album seller in the current industry, but yeah that part I quoted earlier was an over-simplification to say the least.

Maybe she is just a bit oblivious in that respect, but it seems like she would have recognized that it's taken her (comparatively) longer to achieve success abroad by virtue of the same factor that puts her at a (relative) advantage here in the US.

[G.U.Y. Gaga]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Why are these ******s trying to shade Rude Boy? That song is a MASTERPIECE and a CLASSIC

Dirty **** thinking they can shade such a song when their faves are filthy and irrelevant

I would not call that song a classic

[thirdward]

V.S.O.P is one of the best song of all time.

[iHype.]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Applause is NOT doing it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rude_Bo...certifications

I agree.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by BTrisc

ARTPOP did worse in some senses, but it is certainly a comparable decline in success at the time for the two pop stars.

My point is that Gaga has the potential to bounce back just like Riri. Whether she will or will not has yet to be seen. If she can sell out tours, certainly she can sell albums and singles if given a proper management team and quality music. The GP hasn't turned on Gaga quite like ATRL wants us to believe.

Nonsense. Russian Roulette was a decline because 1) it was a much, much shorter era, 2) the lead single was a lot more polarizing and released less than a month before the album came out, 3) the image was a lot less universally appealing. It was a scaled back era but it still kept her very relevant and unlike BTW/Artpop, did not alienate the public. Rihanna's brand remained just as strong, unlike Gaga's.

[Ainsworth]

Rude Boy is one of the best songs ever

[Retro]

ARTPOP was arguably about the same as RR. It will have had a bigger tour, and its album sales are about as (un)impressive in this market as RR's in its own, but RR did have two minor hits in addition to the significant hit that was Rude Boy - ARTPOP had a minor hit and a moderate hit with its first two singles.

[Elusive Chanteuse]

Originally posted by youkneekorn

Bigger disappointment ? Gaga or Obama?

Obama

[tigerlily13]

Queen of Music.

[cheers09]

why are tayloose stans so angry at actual talented country females?

[FattMatt]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Why are these ******s trying to shade Rude Boy? That song is a MASTERPIECE and a CLASSIC

Dirty **** thinking they can shade such a song when their faves are filthy and irrelevant

I mean Prince a ****ing legend covered it

[tigerlily13]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Applause is NOT doing it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rude_Bo...certifications

MTN certification # teas.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by iHype.

I agree.

When will it get through your thick skull that Wikipedia certifications are like the least reliable receipt ever? and even if we go by them, Rude Boy sold more in the US, UK, Australia and a bunch of European countries. Rude Boy was a MUCH bigger hit. That is undeniable.

[2AM]

Originally posted by Great Username

She remains forgotten and uncared for.

More than Knee, we're still good and better than Taylor.