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Tournament: ATRL's Next Top Member | Fin. Thanks ya'll.
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My top picks for the final three were A Bomb, Sam, and FunkyDinevo.
Sam takes pride in everything that he does. He's very passionate of his faves and doesn't let anyone change his views. I've always thought of him as a top member in my opinion, so this is probably why I thought he would cruise his way to the finals.
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I think umich is a perfect judge, and that mods can be good judges, as well. It's just that entries tinged with "negative" behavior have been received unfairly imo. Hype's branding, T-Swizz's branding, etc. Entries like that often end up getting comments like "You really wanna represent yourself as this?" and a low score.
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Supa got a question surrounding that and I actually really liked his answer to it, so you should all read it
But before him, we have a pretty controversial Judge
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Seen as the villain of this cycle, Cupid is here to reveal all!
Hey Cupid! Welcome back for one last time for Cycle 13 to dish on all your feelings about the cycle, but first how have you been?
Thanks! It's been an interesting cycle to say the least, was glad to be part of it, happy to be here, hope you're all doing fabulous.
Lets get to the point, you were probably the most controversial judge this cycle, with a lot of people questioning why you were chosen as a judge, what do you have to say to those comments?
Hmm, I don't think the comments were directed accurately. umich himself has never played ANTM and isn't a Moderator, nobody seemed to take an issue with him being selected. It's funny how people's minds work when they're trying to throw shade, grasping at straws I guess. But honestly, Matty approached me and asked me to help him out with revamping some challenges and asked for my advice, he then asked me to judge. As much as people like to try and make fun or shade saying I suck up to Matty, we honestly never used to talk about ANTM before he asked me this cycle. Of course I said yes, it's quite an honour to have lost twice then be asked to judge. I think it's pretty clear where certain comments motivation was coming from and I'm secure in myself so it doesn't really matter.
You came into this competition as a contestant judging, and became a mod during it. We all
Known being a member and being a mod, there's two different mind sets. Did this change your way of how you would judge or was it more or less the same?
Honestly it did put me in a different mindset, it wasn't until Episode 9, with the Improvement part of the challenge that I first noticed. I remember reading Subomie's entry, which was similar to something I myself had submitted for Les ATRL'ers Season 1, (ATRL Chatbox), thinking it was brilliant. But reading the idea now that I was in my Mod shoes, I remember thinking about problematic it would be. However I personally think that put me in a unique position because I could see things from the sides of regular members and staff. However it's pretty much inevitable that once you see all the behind the scenes stuff on ATRL that you start to look at ideas and posts differently.
Is there anything you realized, about yourself as you judges the competition. Or anything you had wished, Addicted had known when he was competing?*
I wish Addicted would have known what Matthew was planning with that profile challenge, so I wouldn't have been kicked out like that. Messy.
Do you think a person has to be able to win Top Member, to judge Top Member?
Of course, that's why I suggested to Matty that he selected some non-Mods from outside of the game. I suggested umich and he thought it was a great idea. Not everyone on the forum will come to Games, but some of them are top members in their own right, like umich. He can offer a really unique judging and point of view - it's like an outsiders perspective, but coming from a really well liked a respected, top member.
Since this is your first time judging, how do you feel like you overall did?
Well, I think I definitely livened it up - whether good or bad. I think Matty knew what kind of judge to expect with me. I think I could have explained myself better, like with the Bomb situation, but I try my best to work with the little time I have. I think most of the time I did okay, it's all a learning experience.
You had a few altercations with a few of the contestants, *A Bomb namely, do you have any last comments to put to rest? And what is the real tea on your feelings about what happens with Era?
I think A Bomb has great potential, I see lots of past winners qualities within him. I personally felt he fell behind later on in the game and that was the reason for my scores. Whether I was able to express myself efficiently in my comments or not is another story. But there was never anything behind it. I do think he needs to find a balance for the more pointed side of his personality, and that not everything is a battle. And I think Era is awesome, I loved his entry that round and I was shocked he was in the bottom, so I fought hard for him to stay.
We had a few contestants quit, is there any advice you'd give to people who join future cycles on this issue? Or words of encouragement?
Join if you want to win. If you join thinking "oh i'll just do this to kill some time" it'll probably end up messy. There's nothing wrong with being competitive. But at the same time, sometimes life gets in the way and you have to quit. My advice would be - TALK TO MATTY! He literally always knows what to do.
How do you see the future of JakeKills going? And how does he compare, different or the same, as our previous winners we've had?
I think he's going to become one of our staple members here, like umich. Before ANTM, I had always thought Jake was quite popular, but had yet to peak. That's why I asked him to join the game, I thought he'd be perfect. I'm not sure how he compares to previous winners, but I do think his name sits very well among them. I think he will also bring a lot of attention back to the title of ANTM winner.
Where do you see your future with top member going? Can we look forward to even more contributions from you with challenges and ideas? Were you excited with coming up with them? Any that you suggest that you wished would become into future challenges we can look forward too?*
I have no idea, I always have multiple things in pipeline and projects on the go so i'm never quiet for long. If Matty wanted to ask me back, we'd have to see what was happening with me at the time. The ideas were really a collaborative judge thing, I think it worked out pretty well. I'm not sure Matty was too keen on my edit of the Trials&Testimonials challenge, so I think he might try and revert back to his original plan for it, but I still liked mine.
You were once a "messy" member that turned over a new leaf and blossomed into Cupid, is there any advice you'd give to the members we have now who go on the little brash side that you'd give them?*
I was a little messy, but I don't think I was ever DripDrip level. I had chill at times henny. I think I just grew up, I joined this site 4 years ago (almost to the day), back when I was still a student. Priorities and people change. My advice to the more messy/brash members who wish to join.. Do it! The game is perfect to refine yourself and find out about yourself. It's fine to be brash, you just need balance.
Is there any contestant besides the ones in the top three that you see also taking ATRL by storm, or that you hope would come back for a second try?*
There were a lot of disappointing early eliminations and then I think one of the biggest upsets was lovesong's departure. I'd be happy to see any of these contestants try again.
Was there at any point during the competition where you didn't particularly agree with a decision that was made, and do you feel like any of the eliminated contestants left too soon?
Sometimes the scoring/ranking was completely off from my judging and I disagreed, but there's not much I can do about that, everyone has different tastes and opinions. Looking back I wouldn't change anything, I think it all worked out well.
Is there anything you wanna say about the Nude-Gate comments?
I was gonna just delete this question for the sheer ridiculousness but I thought i'd leave it in to spill some tea. So the reason these comments bothered me, isn't because it's a joke or whatever, it's because of where they came from. They were first repeated about me with malicious intent, and so when people repeat these silly comments, even as a joke, they are unknowingly doing so from a malicious place. The real tea is that I was unanimously chosen to be a moderator, in January '14, based on my application. Nobody becomes a mod by sending nudes, especially considering half of them are straight. So yeah, this bad joke should just be put to rest.
Where do you see the future of top member going?
Hopefully this cycle breathed some life back into it (let's be honest) and the changes spiced things up.
Onto bigger and better hopefully.
2016 is coming up, what can expect to see from Cupid?
Wait and see...
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I wanna see what you look like in a crop top now.
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I think umich is a perfect judge, and that mods can be good judges, as well. It's just that entries tinged with "negative" behavior have been received unfairly imo. Hype's branding, T-Swizz's branding, etc. Entries like that often end up getting comments like "You really wanna represent yourself as this?" and a low score.
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Umich's comments were too positive for everyone. Perhaps positive is the wrong word but just too broad. I think your comments were more constructive and would personally prefer more judges like you on the panel. Even when you dragged me (or others), I knew it was coming from a good place and it felt very helpful. Maybe more detailed is the right word.
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So many questions
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Join if you want to win. If you join thinking "oh i'll just do this to kill some time" it'll probably end up messy.
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Didn't I literally tell you when you recruited me that I had time to kill?
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Now let's hear what Supaspaz has to say!
Three seasons in, you’re becoming a long time judge now! Third time is the charm as they say, how did it go this cycle?
Third time was, indeed, a charm. I think I really hit my stride as a judge—more confident than my first cycle, but with less drama than my second. There are still always ups and downs, but I’ve learned to better navigate those success and failures. And I became the veteran judge under Matty this cycle, which was neat. I felt empowered with a new authority to help guide the tournament.
This time around did you do anything different as a judge and after what happened last cycle, did it effect on your judging this time?
No. Last cycle was ridiculous. I still don’t fully understand what set that off, but I’m confident that I didn’t do anything wrong. I take pride in my judging, which comes from a sense of respect for this tournament. I take the contestants seriously and I expect them to perform, so I compliment what I think is done well and critique what I think needs work. That can be sharp, but it’s never mean-spirited. And that’s what I’m here for as a judge. If you can’t handle it, maybe this isn’t the right game for you.
What was your overall opinion on this cycle this time around, were there things you noticed that were different, as a three time judge now, how have things differed?
We worked hard to refresh this cycle and I’m happy with how it turned out. A couple of the new challenges produced spectacular results, particularly the artist promo. But I must admit that, overall, I wasn’t as impressed with the caliber of the entries. There wasn’t anyone this time around blowing me away with their creativity week after week. Perhaps I’ve lost some sense of novelty as a judge, but nothing from this cycle sticks with me the way Hugamari’s username story or Citrus’ karaoke musicality do. That’s not to say we didn’t have some compelling contestants, of course; more of them seem poised to become big ATRL names than any previous season I’ve judged. Their strengths are just in different areas.
We had a few contestants you previously judged on cycles past, that returned. Did you notice anything different with them this time around, and did any of them surprise you?
History, it seems, is doomed to repeat itself. Once again, Rider disappeared on us, Bey_Rih couldn’t deliver on her potential, and Subomie was plagued by defeatism. (He may not have quit this time, but threatening to sunk his chances, even though he should have been in the finale.) Sam surprised me by making it so far in the competitionbut that happened his last cycle, as well. I always seem to underestimate him, perhaps because he gets overshadowed by bigger personalities early on.
I hate beating this dead horse again and again but it seems to be brought up time and time again, but you said you don’t see abrasive members becoming top members, is there a particular member you ONLY see winning?
I’m starting to feel like one of those celebrities who complains about being misquoted and taken out of context. I never said that top members can’t be abrasive, just that I don’t want to promote that type of behavior. It’s not what ATRL is about. So if you build your brand entirely around being rude to others, it’s not going to fly with me. Certainly, all types of members succeed on this site, but I would hope our winners strive for something more. I value those who make interesting and thoughtful contributions to the forum, like JakeKills.
You’re obviously well versed in ATRL, and known which members are HOT and NOT, how do you feel knowing that a lot of the popular members are the abrasive and feisty types of members?
Yes, feisty can be fun, but the abrasive moments need to be balanced with other redeeming qualities. Satellites didn’t rise to the top solely on attitude; he also redefined stanning for this forum and made countless creative, entertaining threads that became ATRL events. Nicole was a widely-hated troll until she refined her shtick into a contrarian wit, becoming the anti-establishment bulwark that keeps our love of pop in check. If all you do is drag other members, then you may get some laughs once in a while, but does anyone really like you? We’ve already got countless nobodies who just bounce between bans without being missed.
Is there any contestant that exceeded your expectation and any member that kind of..let you down?
My biggest disappointment this cycle was lovesong quitting. I was shocked when he withdrew, because he was in such a great position to take the title. He coulda been a contender! He coulda been somebody! I also would have liked to see conatus give the competition a proper shot. He’s an intriguing character, a rather different breed than we usually get on ATRL. And it’s always endlessly frustrating that Bey_Rih can’t seem to pull it together as a contestant, especially when her prominence on the forum continues to grow. A Bomb, Era and Sam all exceeded my expectations; I did not envision them reaching final stages of the tournament. So snaps for rising to the occasion and making the most of this experience!
Would you return as a judge if Matty asked you to do it again? With each cycle you judge do you learn more and more about yourself?
I love this tournament. I wouldn’t say it’s taught me about myself, but it has certainly given me a better sense of what I value about and want for ATRL. And it’s always fun to meet new members, discover what they’re capable of, and hopefully make friends along the way. As long as Matty wants me back, I’ll be here! (I’m not sure how the contestants would feel, though. Perhaps it’s time to turn the tables and have them judge the judge. That would definitely be a learning experience.)
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Isn't that Thomas Beatie?
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Is that real?
Slay! I would never rock the see-through top.
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Sam surprised me by making it so far in the competition—but that happened his last cycle, as well. I always seem to underestimate him, perhaps because he gets overshadowed by bigger personalities early on.
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A Bomb, Era and Sam all exceeded my expectations; I did not envision them reaching final stages of the tournament. So snaps for rising to the occasion and making the most of this experience!
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Just another thing I need to work on, I suppose.
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Slay! I would never rock the see-through top.
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Of course! I never lie.
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Of course! I never lie.
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