I live for all the intimidated comments with regards to Beys acclaim. She deserved every damn nomination. It's not her fault she excells in all of these genres. Tbh, DHY is probably the best Rock song out of the bunch. It's honestly just an amazing track.
I do have to point out tho that this is such a sweet ending to the neverending comments like "Bey is one-dimensional". I love when we can clock them gurls with hot tea like all them grammy noms.
It's crazy how people want to denounce such a work of art.
Lemonade, the full thing is one of the best albums of all time. The film sets it over the edge of course, but it's part of it too. Anyone else could do that too if they want. They don't so...
You're in my head today sis. And I can't talk that much 'cause I can be very verbose and will play quote tennis for a bit, but swiss is next level. Such a sweetheart tho, but whew he'll let them trap him in a tail chasing, circular ass debate for days.
That Whitney/Mariah thread is a pure trap and they will bump it until it gets locked sometime next year; it's best the Hive just leave that one be. I see what madonnas was meaning and it was an innocent question, but that was pure golden opportunity for trolls and haters.
haha ya I had to remove myself after a while of circling the same issue.
I am a debater at heart.
And when I was just an iconic guest I always loved reading when people were defending against ignorance so I kind of like taking it on just at least for anyone reading along and wishing they could clock the stupidity.
I had a discussion with my colleague from the radio station I work at. He thinks Lemonade was the best album released this year and the best Beyoncé album ever but he thinks she's limiting her chances of Lemonade becoming a classic by not releasing it to Spotify. He also said they were going to add DHY / Sorry to the playlist but when they tested it nobody knew it.
That mentality makes no sense to me.
No one knew it therefore they can’t play it on the radio? They’re great songs. As soon as people hear it they’ll want more. How do new singles get played if no one knows it yet? Silly logic.
I just realised beyonce grossed more in movies than Whitney (I don't care about adjustment for inflation the same way they won't adjust today albums sale to sale's peak year)
Beyoncé rap singing is bigger than what the hive think...all those male artist and that new wave of R&B (from R.Kelly, Craig David to Chris Brown, Bryson tiller, Drake...) she made it possible to blur the line between rap and singing when they ain't even know it...nowadays everybody and their mamas being rap singing
I just realised beyonce grossed more in movies than Whitney (I don't care about adjustment for inflation the same way they won't adjust today albums sale to sale's peak year)
Beyoncé rap singing is bigger than what the hive think...all those male artist and that new wave of R&B (from R.Kelly, Craig David to Chris Brown, Bryson tiller, Drake...) she made it possible to blur the line between rap and singing when they ain't even know it...nowadays everybody and their mamas being rap singing
OMG for sure.
Rap-singing is everywhere. People are not really cluing into what a huge thing it is for Bey to have basically pioneered that. There may be other examples of it prior (Smooth Criminal is commonly used) but they neither had the impact nor were very related to the trend to call them the spark, but No, No, No followed by Bills, Bills, Bills and Bug-a-Boo and so forth set up the style that was instantly mimicked. Comparing J.Lo’s first single singles to after DC’s impact and you then you have Love Don’t Cost a Thing - rap-sung. It’s showed up in Britney’s discography, Rihanna’s, basically every pop-n-b singer, most modern girl groups use it, and of course as you’ve said those male rap-singers.
It’s hugely impactful but so ubiquitous that perhaps people don’t stop to think about it.
If we are crediting other singers for melisma in pop, this needs to be mentioned with the same reverence as it’s about to be 20 years of it’s influence.
Rap-singing is everywhere. People are not really cluing into what a huge thing it is for Bey to have basically pioneered that. There may be other examples of it prior (Smooth Criminal is commonly used) but they neither had the impact nor were very related to the trend to call them the spark, but No, No, No followed by Bills, Bills, Bills and Bug-a-Boo and so forth set up the style that was instantly mimicked. Comparing J.Lo’s first single singles to after DC’s impact and you then you have Love Don’t Cost a Thing - rap-sung. It’s showed up in Britney’s discography, Rihanna’s, basically every pop-n-b singer, most modern girl groups use it, and of course as you’ve said those male rap-singers.
It’s hugely impactful but so ubiquitous that perhaps people don’t stop to think about it.
If we are crediting other singers for melisma in pop, this needs to be mentioned with the same reverence as it’s about to be 20 years of it’s influence.
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Originally posted by swissman
And the Dream even says how Beyoncé started rap singing in Turnt:
“Say you the reason why all of these rap ****** start singing”
and he says she replies
“She say you the reason why all of these cute girls got babies”
I had a discussion with my colleague from the radio station I work at. He thinks Lemonade was the best album released this year and the best Beyoncé album ever but he thinks she's limiting her chances of Lemonade becoming a classic by not releasing it to Spotify. He also said they were going to add DHY / Sorry to the playlist but when they tested it nobody knew it.
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Slam FM ? cause i know 538 aint ready for sorry.
I had a discussion with my colleague from the radio station I work at. He thinks Lemonade was the best album released this year and the best Beyoncé album ever but he thinks she's limiting her chances of Lemonade becoming a classic by not releasing it to Spotify. He also said they were going to add DHY / Sorry to the playlist but when they tested it nobody knew it.
I honestly feel like she's going to tighten up her single game for B7. She slacked on performances for ST and you can tell she put as much energy in to her televised performances as her tour, next time will be the singles
Rap-singing is everywhere. People are not really cluing into what a huge thing it is for Bey to have basically pioneered that. There may be other examples of it prior (Smooth Criminal is commonly used) but they neither had the impact nor were very related to the trend to call them the spark, but No, No, No followed by Bills, Bills, Bills and Bug-a-Boo and so forth set up the style that was instantly mimicked. Comparing J.Lo’s first single singles to after DC’s impact and you then you have Love Don’t Cost a Thing - rap-sung. It’s showed up in Britney’s discography, Rihanna’s, basically every pop-n-b singer, most modern girl groups use it, and of course as you’ve said those male rap-singers.
It’s hugely impactful but so ubiquitous that perhaps people don’t stop to think about it.
If we are crediting other singers for melisma in pop, this needs to be mentioned with the same reverence as it’s about to be 20 years of it’s influence.
I honestly feel like she's going to tighten up her single game for B7. She slacked on performances for ST and you can tell she put as much energy in to her televised performances as her tour, next time will be the singles
Yo know how she treats her singles. You expect her to change?
Rap-singing is everywhere. People are not really cluing into what a huge thing it is for Bey to have basically pioneered that. There may be other examples of it prior (Smooth Criminal is commonly used) but they neither had the impact nor were very related to the trend to call them the spark, but No, No, No followed by Bills, Bills, Bills and Bug-a-Boo and so forth set up the style that was instantly mimicked. Comparing J.Lo’s first single singles to after DC’s impact and you then you have Love Don’t Cost a Thing - rap-sung. It’s showed up in Britney’s discography, Rihanna’s, basically every pop-n-b singer, most modern girl groups use it, and of course as you’ve said those male rap-singers.
It’s hugely impactful but so ubiquitous that perhaps people don’t stop to think about it.
If we are crediting other singers for melisma in pop, this needs to be mentioned with the same reverence as it’s about to be 20 years of it’s influence.
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Originally posted by baksoul
I just realised beyonce grossed more in movies than Whitney (I don't care about adjustment for inflation the same way they won't adjust today albums sale to sale's peak year)
Beyoncé rap singing is bigger than what the hive think...all those male artist and that new wave of R&B (from R.Kelly, Craig David to Chris Brown, Bryson tiller, Drake...) she made it possible to blur the line between rap and singing when they ain't even know it...nowadays everybody and their mamas being rap singing
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Originally posted by swissman
And the Dream even says how Beyoncé started rap singing in Turnt:
“Say you the reason why all of these rap ****** start singing”
and he says she replies
“She say you the reason why all of these cute girls got babies”
lol
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This so so so much. I don't think people really get the full scope yet of how tremendously impactful this is as musical innovation of Bey's. Her vocal style is incredibly impactful and you can see more of Bey's musical influence in modern singers (and rappers) than any singer in the last half century. Stuff like this:
is derivative of what Bey introduced with DC. I remember older people (older black folk love themselves some loud as church sangas) when I was a kid would get irritated when her songs came on sometimes saying "why doesn't she just sing?" because she didn't approach her vocal delivery in a traditionally melodically focused way and rode beats like a rapper; now 15 years later, it's the most common way singers go about delivering urban up and midtempos. Massively influential and it's nuts because we haven't seen the full reach of it yet and already it's changed the urban music landscape so much over the past decade.
And I can't talk that much 'cause I can be very verbose and will play quote tennis for a bit, but swiss is next level. Such a sweetheart tho, but whew he'll let them trap him in a tail chasing, circular ass debate for days. 
I see what madonnas was meaning and it was an innocent question, but that was pure golden opportunity for trolls and haters.
Agreed.
