[Adonis]

Originally posted by heckinglovato

Aren't some GOP candidates like Trump advocating Single-payer? I feel like Bernie might be able to pass a bipartisan legislation even if he doesn't have control of the House.

Yeah if Republicans can do something like that, it would be a HUGE boost for their image.

[MAKSIM]

Originally posted by heckinglovato

Aren't some GOP candidates like Trump advocating Single-payer? I feel like Bernie might be able to pass a bipartisan legislation even if he doesn't have control of the House.

No. A single-payer system is not on the conservative agenda. Trump advocated for Universal Health Care (Obamacare) in 2000 and now says he would repeal it with an executive order.

Reid Ribble, a Republican from the Green Bay area, went public not only to blast Donald Trump's name calling -- particularly Trump’s calling Fox News talk show host Megyn Kelly a "bimbo" -- but to call him out as not being a conservative.

In one interview, Ribble made several claims about Trump's non-conservatism to Milwaukee conservative talk show host Charlie Sykes. One was about a so-called single-payer health care system, in which the government pays for care for all citizens.

"The interesting this is, I'm not the guy who's saying we should have completely socialized medicine," Ribble said Sept. 8, 2015 on WTMJ-AM (620).

"I want to repeal Obamacare and replace it with (a) free-market system. He wants to replace it with a single-payer system. That's hardly a conservative posture."

Trump has not advocated for single-payer..he is simply clueless about healthcare as you can tell from the article below
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...r-health-care/

Any republican informed on health care would not vote with Bernie to support single-payer

[Espresso]

CBS Poll: Trump retakes IA lead,
keeps big edge in NH and SC

[Javan]

Originally posted by Giselle

I mean, every AMERICAN with common sense knows a GOP majority congress isn't approving single payer healthcare

When the BRITS try to get involved

Dual citizen sis. I will mail my vote and you will seethe.

Originally posted by Giselle

Yeah, "where we are" is not where Obama and other Dems want Obamacare to be

And don't you get it (don't answer that, I know you don't.)? Obamacare is more in line with what the Republicans want so if he can BARELY get that working what makes you think single payer is going anywhere?

You really need to give it a break, you don't know what you're talking about and you're being a contrarian for sport at this point

Wasn't Obamacare some extremely convoluted 10 page bill? Single Payers healthcare sounds rather straightforward. Is there much there to **** with?

Originally posted by Retro

A Democratic Congress did

The GOP controlled Congress has tried to repeal it sixty seven times - and have, in fact, sent a repeal measure to Obama at least once, which was only blocked because of Obama's veto

Well the winning party usually gains seat no? I'm not too worried about a GOP congress with how Trump damaging the party rep.

[Giselle]

The point is a GOP congress would NEVER go for it.

[Giselle]

Originally posted by Javan

Wasn't Obamacare some extremely convoluted 10 page bill? Single Payers healthcare sounds rather straightforward. Is there much there to **** with?

And what do you think the new health care system will be? A single line on blank page?

[Retro]

How does everyone in here feel about Bloomberg potentially running?

Originally posted by Javan

Well the winning party usually gains seat no? I'm not too worried about a GOP congress with how Trump damaging the party rep.

ehhh, that's a dangerous idea to run with. Obama winning in 2012 didn't provide a Democratic congress for him to work with; Trump is often viewed as an outside entity by people who would vote for Republicans and I'm not sure he's hurting their reputation enough to prevent them from holding Congress. I mean, there have been high-profile maniacs all over that party, but Trump is actually building pretty huge support and might even help the GOP bring out and inspire people who wouldn't normally have voted. It's complicated, but unlike in most European countries, the leading party in the Presidential election might not actually see a win in the legislative branch.

[Giselle]

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[Moonchild]

Originally posted by Retro

How does everyone in here feel about Bloomberg potentially running? .

I can only see it working against Hillary, so I'd rather it not happen. Though, she could spin the message of being an "American working-class warrior" again against two multi-billionaires.

[Giselle]

Originally posted by Retro

How does everyone in here feel about Bloomberg potentially running?

I would LOVE it.




























































In any election other than this one

[Moonchild]

Who even jumps in the race this late? Your time has passed for this election. Bloomberg would have to start like now to get ballot access, especially as a third party.

[Giselle]

Everyone I like: Hillary, Biden, Elizabeth, Bloomberg and yes - the other son of a bitch - are all on the older side so unless Warren tries in 2020/2024, this is all of their's LAST chance to run.

At least I have Gilli.

[Giselle]

Ahhh, Bloomberg his soda ban

How Gwyneth Paltrow. Loved it.

[rivers]

How is Trump leading?! Literally every republican I know hates him

[Javan]

Originally posted by Retro

How does everyone in here feel about Bloomberg potentially running?



ehhh, that's a dangerous idea to run with. Obama winning in 2012 didn't provide a Democratic congress for him to work with; Trump is often viewed as an outside entity by people who would vote for Republicans and I'm not sure he's hurting their reputation enough to prevent them from holding Congress. I mean, there have been high-profile maniacs all over that party, but Trump is actually building pretty huge support and might even help the GOP bring out and inspire people who wouldn't normally have voted. It's complicated, but unlike in most European countries, the leading party in the Presidential election might not actually see a win in the legislative branch.

Oh maybe I should have been more specific. The popular political theory im talking about (I forgot the name sorry), shows a pattern in which the president party gains seats and may even dominate congress in the 1st term. But the presidents party always loses seats in his second term. Ala Obama 2012.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Moonchild

Who even jumps in the race this late? Your time has passed for this election. Bloomberg would have to start like now to get ballot access, especially as a third party.

It's not at all too late! Bill Clinton didn't really get momentum until early 1992. Back in 1968, Bobby Kennedy wasn't even a candidate until March 16 of the election year.

I'm not particularly a Bloomberg fan or anything but I just think the idea of him running independent, especially with his money and name recognition and power, would be pretty interesting.

Originally posted by Moonchild

I can only see it working against Hillary, so I'd rather it not happen. Though, she could spin the message of being an "American working-class warrior" again against two multi-billionaires.

I suppose I see that side of things.

What's interesting to note is that it seems his run is conditional upon her performance; I feel like if she loses both Iowa and NH or if she's indicted soon, he's definitely going to run.

It should make for an interesting race if it comes down to Trump vs. Bernie vs. Bloomberg; he's essentially right in the middle, with some conservative policies and some liberal views.

Call me crazy but if Hillary somehow fades or faces trial, could this be the year a third party / independent candidate makes a serious run for the presidency? It hasn't been since Ross Perot's original run against Clinton that one made a real dent, and we've had a Democrat or Republican as President since 1853 when the Whigs were a thing

[RatedG²]

Retro you think Bloomberg running is interesting?


You do realize he'd suck votes away from Clinton too? Probably moreso than Trump if he's the nominee

[Giselle]

Where IS our young Bloomberg though

I truly hope we start to see young talent on the left.

[feelslikeadream]

I'm starting to think I should have registered as a Republican when I moved to Iowa so I could help sabotage

[Moonchild]

This is such an unusual election year. The most prohibitive frontrunner since Eisenhower on one side and a twelve-person free-for-all with an antiestablishment, multi-billionaire, ignorant, xenophobic, obnoxious frontrunner on the other side. Then a possible third-party run from another multi-billionaire waiting in the wings.