[Giselle]

Originally posted by Javan

Ok. Let's pretend the HOR are against SPHC. So? What happened the last time Congress were against the budget in 2013?

Something that they wouldn't even think about doing again, as when they tried that with PP the public said NO.

[Giselle]

I mean, every AMERICAN with common sense knows a GOP majority congress isn't approving single payer healthcare

When the BRITS try to get involved

[heckinglovato]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Cute numbers from Bernie

A Year Out, Ignore General Election Polls


They essentially say nothing

Author: Harry Enten

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten

Harry Enten ‏@ForecasterEnten
If Sanders were the nominee, he could easily win... especially against Trump or Cruz.

I'm glad I'm taking the word of like, a non-Conspiracy Theorist political analyst.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Giselle

I mean, every AMERICAN with common sense knows a GOP majority congress isn't approving single payer healthcare

When the BRITS try to get involved

Did they approve Obamacare either?



Oop. And look where we are now

[Giselle]

Originally posted by Javan

Did they approve Obamacare either?



Oop. And look where we are now

Yeah, "where we are" is not where Obama and other Dems want Obamacare to be

And don't you get it (don't answer that, I know you don't.)? Obamacare is more in line with what the Republicans want so if he can BARELY get that working what makes you think single payer is going anywhere?

You really need to give it a break, you don't know what you're talking about and you're being a contrarian for sport at this point

[Retro]

Originally posted by heckinglovato

I'm glad I'm taking the word of like, a non-Conspiracy Theorist political analyst.

why are we pretending an opinion tweet is any kind of actual analysis, especially one that contradicts basic political common sense

Originally posted by Javan

Did they approve Obamacare either?



Oop. And look where we are now

No

A Democratic Congress did

The GOP controlled Congress has tried to repeal it sixty seven times - and have, in fact, sent a repeal measure to Obama at least once, which was only blocked because of Obama's veto

[Giselle]

Originally posted by Retro

why are we pretending an opinion tweet is any kind of actual analysis, especially one that contradicts basic political common sense



No

A Democratic Congress did

The GOP controlled Congress has tried to repeal it sixty seven times - and have, in fact, sent a repeal measure to Obama at least once, which was only blocked because of Obama's veto

fldmdg Please go off

[heckinglovato]

Originally posted by Retro

why are we pretending an opinion tweet is any kind of actual analysis, especially one that contradicts basic political common sense

It only contradicts basic political common sense in your opinion. My entire point when posting the comparison chart a page ago was to present Bernie's electability, so everyone attacked me claiming that these charts didn't make any sense and that I should take the word of non-Conspiracy Theorist respectable political analyst, linking me to an article of an author who said that Bernie could easily win against the GOP.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by heckinglovato

I'm glad I'm taking the word of like, a non-Conspiracy Theorist political analyst.

Well good for that but it doesn't change the fact that GE polls this far out mean nothing

[Giselle]

Originally posted by heckinglovato

I'm glad I'm taking the word of like, a non-Conspiracy Theorist political analyst.

In that SAME tweet, he said it was still too early to predict for the GE, but you so colorfully left that part out.

[heckinglovato]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Well good for that but it doesn't change the fact that GE polls this far out mean nothing

How is it a "fact" when it's clearly a matter of opinion? Different people have different opinions on this and the opinion of the person whom you linked me to is in favor of Bernie's electability.

[MAKSIM]

Wait, Javan is a brit? No wonder why he sounds completely clueless how the American system of government works. Don't worry sis, I have no idea how the UK's does either.

[Giselle]

I think I'm going to start working on my next book.

Tentative Title: Sanders Supporters' Big Book of Lies, Fact Manipulation & Conspiracies

[heckinglovato]

Originally posted by Giselle

In that SAME tweet, he said it was still too early to predict for the GE, but you so colorfully left that part out.

How does that matter? He instantly made a prediction/said Sanders could potentially win (is electable) in the sentence afterwards.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by heckinglovato

How is it a "fact" when it's clearly a matter of opinion? Different people have different opinions on this and the opinion of the person whom you linked me to is in favor of Bernie's electability.

Because if you read the link it showed many elections that polls this far out were extremely poor predictors of what happened in elections and there hasn't been any correlation. Those are facts. GE polls this far out are not good predictors. Also a fact

He is in favor of a Bernie electability but that there is an opinion.

[King Maxx]

Did you really ask what role the HOP comes into play?

I don't think you should be in this thread then.

[Giselle]

Originally posted by heckinglovato

How does that matter? He instantly made a prediction in the sentence afterwards.

He made his own personal prediction. He was not basing it off of meaningless polls like you're trying to paint.

[MAKSIM]

Originally posted by Javan

Ok. Let's pretend the HOR are against SPHC. So? What happened the last time Congress were against the budget in 2013?

You are mistaking single-payer healthcare to simply be incorporated into a budget when it would need official legislation to pass. That is why Obamacare is called the Affordable Healthcare Act, because it had to be passed in both chambers of Congress and signed by the President. Bernie can't simply say Single Payer Healthcare is not incorporated into the budget.

[heckinglovato]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Because if you read the link it showed many elections that polls this far out were extremely poor predictors of what happened in elections and there hasn't been any correlation. Those are facts. GE polls this far out are not good predictors. Also a fact

He is in favor of a Bernie electability but that there is an opinion.

That still doesn't make it a fact actually, especially since it was one point off in the last election cycle. But my original point still stands, Bernie is electable according to the respectable political analyst you linked me to.

[Giselle]

Originally posted by Retro

why are we pretending an opinion tweet is any kind of actual analysis, especially one that contradicts basic political common sense



No

A Democratic Congress did

The GOP controlled Congress has tried to repeal it sixty seven times - and have, in fact, sent a repeal measure to Obama at least once, which was only blocked because of Obama's veto

Originally posted by MAKSIM

Wait, Javan is a brit? No wonder why he sounds completely clueless how the American system of government works. Don't worry sis, I have no idea how the UK's does either.

Originally posted by King Maxx

Did you really ask what role the HOP comes into play?

I don't think you should be in this thread then.

Originally posted by MAKSIM

You are mistaking single-payer healthcare to simply be incorporated into a budget when it would need official legislation to pass. That is why Obamacare is called the Affordable Healthcare Act, because it had to be passed in both chambers of Congress and signed by the President. Bernie can't simply say Single Payer Healthcare is not incorporated into the budget.

Well sis...

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