[Samuel.]

Full video is coming finally

[Rama]

But the question here is:
Would it be rape if she's howling DO WATCHA WANT WITH MAH BODY?



Bye.

[Muh]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

Those 30 seconds were enough. Like a lot of people have said the video definitely alludes to rape. I know some people might not want to admit it because rape is so taboo and that's probably why you guys are defending Gaga so fervently. but it definitely is there.

And just because you and other people THINK it alludes to rape it makes it true?

I'm not defending her, I'm just saying just wait for the full video

[Hobbes]

Originally posted by 4AM.

Oh hush, you can't always dismiss opposing opinions with that. This isn't a case of stan goggles.

This entire thread is the epitome of stan goggles.

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by 4AM.

Oh hush, you can't always dismiss opposing opinions with that. This isn't a case of stan goggles.

Honestly I think it is. Coming to a conclusion that the scene strongly alludes to rape seems very logical to me.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Impartial

Obviously...
If you were drugged and people started groping you and riding on top of your unconcious body, I don't think you'd second guess it being rape/abuse

There was no sexual or inappropriate contact, implicit or otherwise, when she was in an impaired mental state. The only time there was any implied sexual contact was well before the apparent medication began to impair nervous function.

[NaughtyDog]

like



she is unconscious
there is a nurse on top of her
her boob is showing
even if she is not being raped she is been molested and taken advantage of
when drugged

its not that hard to see

[judaskills]

Holy ****, she looks hot in the newspaper scenes! SLAY. If this clip leaked in hq like this, someone has the rest!

[Scandal & Media]

Originally posted by Rama

But the question here is:
Would it be rape if she's howling DO WATCHA WANT WITH MAH BODY?



Bye.

[Grown K]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

She's drugged and unconscious. How is that possibly consensual.

So do what you want
What you want with my body
Do what you want
Don't stop, let's party
Do what you want
What you want with my body
Do what you want
What you want with my body

Write what you want
Say what you want 'bout me
If you're wondering, know
That I'm not sorry
Do what you want
What you want with my body
What you want with my body

[Hobbes]

Originally posted by Rama

But the question here is:
Would it be rape if she's howling DO WATCHA WANT WITH MAH BODY?



Bye.

She's certainly not howling when she's unconscious.

[Benjamin]

Even if we assume it implies rape (which, in all honestly, it clearly does), you can't really drag Gaga for it... There is a reason she threw the video out, perhaps she saw the final cut and realised it was a massive mistake and not something which she should release.

As an official release this would be completely draggable, but as an unofficial leak you can't really attack her. It'd be like dragging a musician for an awful demo leaking - they know it's awful, hence why they didn't release it.

[Retro]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

Honestly I think it is. Coming to a conclusion that the scene strongly alludes to rape seems very logical to me.

And having a different interpretation seems logical to me, because logic and interpretation aren't one-way streets.

[Impartial]

Originally posted by Scandal & Media

Seems more like an out of control party to me

[Kayhan]

Have any of youn seen "Rammstein - P****" video? It is way worse than this 30 Seconds-overreacted-mess.

[tittieslap]

Also, it's good to point out that deep in the sexual world, there are some people who enjoy being forced to have sex. I'm not saying all people do, cause then that's rape. I bet many of us gay guys have come across that **** video where one of the guys starts to sexually please the other while he's sleeping. Plenty of other people also like it when people come off strong sexually (again, not all people like this). I wouldn't be surprised if this was the concept of the video, but it's still awkward to have Kelly and Terry in it, thus a possible reason why it was scrapped.

[Allstar]

condoning rape, sometimes y'all

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Jae

She's certainly not howling when she's unconscious.

Some people ignoring obvious logic in here...

[careerfatality]

MESSSSSSSSS THIS IS SOOO CONTROVERSIAL.



it's not rape tho. yall blind to see

[arctic-turner]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

Honestly I think it is. Coming to a conclusion that the scene strongly alludes to rape seems very logical to me.

It definitely does allude to it, but saying she promotes/glorifies is a stretch.