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Discussion: Trend Setter or Trend Follower: Nicki Minaj
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Britney set the trend for auto tune!
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Not my point. He was acting like Rihanna jumped on the dubstep bandwagon after HIAM, when in fact she did it in Rated R two years ago.
Freakshow didn't introduce dubstep into mainstream. But that's cute for her.
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Originally posted by infinite-desire
Not my point. He was acting like Rihanna jumped on the dubstep bandwagon after HIAM, when in fact she did it in Rated R two years ago.
Freakshow didn't introduce dubstep into mainstream. But that's cute for her.
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Britney always sets the trends.
Bubble gum pop? Everyone followed.
Pharrel's sound? Everyone followed.
Electro with Toxic? Everyone followed.
Blackout sound? Everyone followed.
Bitches wearing pink wigs? Everyone followed
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Originally posted by infinite-desire
Except Rihanna already did dubstep before HIAM came out.
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Originally posted by Pitchfork
Although Britney’s new song is the first true mainstream dubstep track, the movement to incorporate dubstep into pop music started 4 years ago. Always ahead of the game, Spears used dubstep in her 2007 song "Freakshow," from her album Blackout. Rihanna worked with popular dubstep artist Rusko on her album Rated R, and although his tracks didn’t make the cut, the tracks of his dubstep counterparts Chase & Status did. However, Rihanna was unsuccessful in incorporating dubstep. Although Chase & Status produced the promo single “Wait Your Turn,” the dubstep influence was unrecognizable. If her switch back to pop for Loud was any indication, she realized that she failed too.
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OMG! This is such a flop thread... Seems like Beyhive is running this place
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Although Britney’s new song is the first true mainstream dubstep track, the movement to incorporate dubstep into pop music started 4 years ago. Always ahead of the game, Spears used dubstep in her 2007 song "Freakshow," from her album Blackout. Rihanna worked with popular dubstep artist Rusko on her album Rated R, and although his tracks didn’t make the cut, the tracks of his dubstep counterparts Chase & Status did. However, Rihanna was unsuccessful in incorporating dubstep. Although Chase & Status produced the promo single “Wait Your Turn,” the dubstep influence was unrecognizable. If her switch back to pop for Loud was any indication, she realized that she failed too.
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I cannot at this shade from Pitchfork.
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I cannot at this shade from Pitchfork.
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Sis, I almost chocked at the last line.
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Originally posted by Vin
Clearly a trend setter. She introduced dubstep into mainstream with
"Hold It Against Me," and then singles like "Judas" and "You Da One" followed shortly after.
...Vin
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Gaga wrote and composed Judas herself. Britney didn't write or produce anything on Femme Fatale.
Why should Britney be credited for music she had no hand in creating?
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
Don't bother with the floacist, anytime Britney is brought up he quickly jumps in to "correct" us with his knowledge of pop culture while always going the extra mile to do anything to discredit Britney's impact upon pop culture and pop music. He even has a N'sync avatar
Out of The backstreet boys, N'sync, Christina Aguilera, The spice girls, etc. -- who was the only one to go on to remain consistently relevant in pop music? who is the one still selling out arenas? and who is still selling music? exactly.
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I'm not discrediting her 'impact' on pop culture. I am however, not exaggerating it.
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That's one trend. You don't seem to understand. Britney was the one who introduced teen female pop artists to the mainstream after the complete and utter failure of musical acts like Debbie Gibson and Tiffany. Without Britney none of the teen girls would be out now.
Without Britney there would likely not have been a rebirth of the female pop star. Prior to Britney the music industry was saying "there will never be another popular female artist. The Madonna's are done." Britney proved them wrong and it's because she proved them wrong that half these girls in the game have careers. Bow down and kiss the ring. Every girl in the game owes her a debt.
I noticed how you didn't say anything about Britney changing the game in 2001 with Slave, in 2003 with the release of In The Zone, in 2007 again with Blackout and in the present with dubstep - Hold It Against Me. Mother ****ing trend setter, and that's just musically.
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Britney herself didn't introduce anyone. The record labels did. Attempting to give the artist themselves credit for labels clamoring to find a 'Britney' clone of their own is hardly a credit to Britney. (Remember had Larry not stepped in she would have been in yet another flop girl group).
What game was changed with Slave? That's like saying Justin changed the fame with Justified. All they did was accept the tracks the Jackson siblings turned down from the Neptunes. That's hardly game changing. The song itself was never particularly popular anyway, it peaked at #27. Then again, whenever a white pop star puts some 'urban' influence into their music, everyone throws up their hands and praises them, so I shouldn't be surprised.
And here we go with the dubstep thing
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Originally posted by Glamazon
Britney always sets the trends.
Bubble gum pop? Everyone followed.
Pharrel's sound? Everyone followed.
Electro with Toxic? Everyone followed.
Blackout sound? Everyone followed.
Bitches wearing pink wigs? Everyone followed
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Britney didn't want to make that kind of music, Jive had her do it. Why? Because it was already a trend. Yeah, nobody was using Pharrell before Britney,he was completely unknown Blackout was largely overshadowed by Britney's shenanigans, and Toxic isn't electro at all.
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Originally posted by the floacist
Britney herself didn't introduce anyone. The record labels did. Remember had Larry not stepped in she would have been in yet another flop girl group.
What game was changed with Slave? That's like saying Justin changed the fame with Justified. All they did was accept the tracks the Jackson siblings turned down from the Neptunes. That's hardly game changing. The song itself was never particularly popular anyway.
And here we go with the dubstep thing
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He did.
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When he's not boycotting Tommy Mottola or adjusting his nose, Michael Jackson's probably thinking, "Man, this is the album I should've made!" That's because with his golden (make that multi-platinum) solo debut, 'N Syncer Justin Timberlake is on his way to becoming the new King of Pop. J.T. covers a lot of ground here, in a mix of thumping party-pleasers like "(Oh No) What You Got" and "Like I Love You," as well as drippy, sad numbers like "Never Again" and R&B grinders that promise to "have you naked by the end of this song." Yep, it's Justin time.
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Everyone knew even back then he would be the King of Pop.
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Britney is a follower, imo. She doesn't bring much new to the table at all.
She does her thing well though. You don't have to be 100% brand new and original to be good at what you do.
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Originally posted by SAM†
Britney is a follower, imo. She doesn't bring much new to the table at all.
She does her thing well though. You don't have to be 100% brand new and original to be good at what you do.
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I think you forget Blackout, Hold It Against Me, Toxic, Baby One More Time... I could go on and on
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Trendsetter. She brought back teen pop at the start of her career. She brought in heavy dance music with Blackout, and now she's started a new wave of dubstep. She even used autotune on a lot of In The Zone.
I don't like to use the word delusional a lot, but denying this is pretty much that.
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Originally posted by Pop pop123
Britney set the trend for auto tune!
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lol, you must be joking.
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Originally posted by the floacist
Gaga wrote and composed Judas herself. Britney didn't write or produce anything on Femme Fatale.
Why should Britney be credited for music she had no hand in creating?
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This is about artists, not who wrote and produced the music
Yet you're forgetting, it's because it's Britney that these trends are happening. You think if HIAM went to anyone else (bar maybe Gaga) it would have had this much effect?
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Originally posted by Duca
Sis, I almost chocked at the last line.
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That tea was...
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Originally posted by Nacho!
I think you forget Blackout, Hold It Against Me, Toxic, Baby One More Time... I could go on and on
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HIAM was far from something "new", maybe for the US, but that sort of music was big in the UK way before HIAM was even recorded.
BOMT, Toxic and Blackout were all pretty original though. Nothing "trendsetting" though, I wouldn't say. Something has to be really new and have a big impact for it to be "trendsetting", imo. I wouldn't class many artists as trendsetters. That's not a bad thing though, most artists are better artists by following, than by trying to set new trends.
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Originally posted by SAM†
HIAM was far from something "new", maybe for the US, but that sort of music was big in the UK way before HIAM was even recorded.
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Are you joking? It's just a coincidence everyone is doing dubstep now? Yes, it's generic but it was also trendsetting. Actually, dubstep wasn't big in the UK. People knew about it, but it wasn't on the radio or in the charts.
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Originally posted by Duca
He did.
Everyone knew even back then he would be the King of Pop.
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So singing songs by The Neptunes that Michael Jackson turned down make you the King of Pop? Thus implying that one can only be "the King of Pop" if they sing songs meant for him?
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Originally posted by PopBoi
This is about artists, not who wrote and produced the music
Yet you're forgetting, it's because it's Britney that these trends are happening. You think if HIAM went to anyone else (bar maybe Gaga) it would have had this much effect?
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Isn't a part of being an artist is CREATING MUSIC?
HIAM went straight to #1 and fell straight back down. It wasn't a popular song. TTWE is far more known, but sounds like a generic Kesha song (well, by all intents and purposes it is).
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Originally posted by PopBoi
Are you joking? It's just a coincidence everyone is doing dubstep now? Yes, it's generic but it was also trendsetting. Actually, dubstep wasn't big in the UK. People knew about it, but it wasn't on the radio or in the charts.
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There is absolutely no way in hell that people are "following" Britney with their dubstep influenced tracks. She wasn't the first to do it, nor was she by any means the best.
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