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ms paint job I found on another forum. You knew this was coming though.
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Originally posted by coolcristobal
SR does more than cripple Dragonite though  It takes away Multiscale, which is one of the few things Dragonite has over Salamence. So yeah, if you're going to pit Dragonite against Salamence, then it's kind of a nail in the coffin.
And last time I checked we're talking about sweeping here. And the fact is, Sala is a better sweeper than Dragonite, mostly because they're both in an SR-invaded tier. That's the sad thing really, the only thing that keeps Dragonite from winning against Sala is SR. Without it, Weavile and them can OHKO him as well.
They both slay hard, and they're both top threat in OU, it's just that Sala has the slight lead here. Or at least in terms of sweeping. |
Okay but what set are you using to say Salamence is a better sweeper? Scarf? Because then I agree, the Scarf set has more potential to sweep than any of Dragonite's because of Moxie. DD? No, because if they both have 100%HP, Dragonite obviously wins, but if not then both are kinda equal, imo, with Dnite edging out a bit if it carries Lum Berry against status-users. But that's basically as far as Salamence can go, some can even say Haxorus is a better Scarfer and Hydreigon/Latios is better at using Choice Specs.
Dragonite and Garchomp pretty much outclass it in a CB set.
And Dragonite can still use a PLETHORA of sets on top of those 2. But I'm sure you know that considering where you got that Gengar quote. 
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Why haven't the full list of Kalos pokemon being released yet. That can't be all the pokemon.
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Originally posted by Fatality
ms paint job I found on another forum. You knew this was coming though.
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Luxray better show no mercy to that ugly looking Mufasa-knock off thing. 
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Originally posted by InsureTer
Why haven't the full list of Kalos pokemon being released yet. That can't be all the pokemon.
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Ugh ikr, I'm getting impatient here. 
LOL those are definitely not all the new Pokemon. 
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Originally posted by AMIT
Ugh ikr, I'm getting impatient here.
LOL those are definitely not all the new Pokemon. |
 Like, we still haven't seen the 3 legendary pokemon yet.
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Why has there been no new evolutions yet. Mega-Evos are ok but i want NEW EVOLUTIONS.
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Originally posted by AMIT
Okay but what set are you using to say Salamence is a better sweeper? Scarf? Because then I agree, the Scarf set has more potential to sweep than any of Dragonite's because of Moxie. DD? No, because if if they both have 100%HO, Dragonite obviously wins, but if not then both are kinda equal, imo, with Dnite edging out a bit if it carries Lum Berry against status-users. But that's basically as far as Salamence can go, some can even say Haxorus is a better Scarfer and Hydreigon/Latios is better at using Choice Specs.
Dragonite and Garchomp pretty much outclass it in a CB set.
And Dragonite can still use a PLETHORA of sets on top of those 2. But I'm sure you know that considering where you got that Gengar quote. |
Good for Dragonite that it can use a plethora of sets. But it's too bad that it's mostly used for sweeping (where again, Mence has a slight lead against him). Besides, we're talking about the better sweeper, aren't we?
And again, assume all you want that, but most of the time the opponent will have a SR user in their team. That's just how it is now, most leads carry SR/Spikes/Toxic Spikes/etc, and it definitely affects Dragonite.
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Originally posted by Fatality
ms paint job I found on another forum. You knew this was coming though.
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Who's that lion that's about to fall off? 
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Originally posted by coolcristobal
Who's that lion that's about to fall off? |
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Luxray is a Lynx not a lion
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Originally posted by InsureTer
Like, we still haven't seen the 3 legendary pokemon yet. |
Yes, they are REALLY trying to keep the goodies on the down low and at the same time get us hyped up, it's working so far. 
I need the full thing though, because first is the complete list of the Pokemon and then the stats, it'll take too long, I want everything like next week tbh.
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I am PRAYing that Pyroar gets mega evolution that evolves it into a manticore or a griffin 
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Originally posted by MMMinaj
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Wait why am I now just hearing about this? It kinda slays
What's it called?
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Originally posted by MMMinaj
Luxray is a Lynx not a lion
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Girl bye
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Originally posted by Fatality
Girl bye
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Luxray cannot be a lion i'm sorry it evolves from shinx, which sounds like lynx. And it looks like a lynx. It's a lynx not a lion and you can DEAL.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by MMMinaj
Luxray cannot be a lion i'm sorry it evolves from shinx, which sounds like lynx. And it looks like a lynx. It's a lynx not a lion and you can DEAL.
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I refuse
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Originally posted by Jmpgreen
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Mess, it gets messed up when you post it here, just use the shinx page to get to Luxray
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Originally posted by coolcristobal
Good for Dragonite that it can use a plethora of sets. But it's too bad that it's mostly used for sweeping (where again, Mence has a slight lead against him). Besides, we're talking about the better sweeper, aren't we?
And again, assume all you want that, but most of the time the opponent will have a SR user in their team. That's just how it is now, most leads carry SR/Spikes/Toxic Spikes/etc, and it definitely affects Dragonite.
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Well, technically we're not talking only about who's the better sweeper, we're talking overall. Otherwise you could've specified the Salamence set that you claim is better than Dragonite's as a sweeper, but you didn't. 
Mence has the Scarf set on his side, and that's assuming the opponent doesn't have any more Steel-types, so it's not like it's completely flawless either.
I'm not assuming they won't have it, but then again you're assuming most teams don't run a Rapid Spin user, and that's not accurate. If you can assume they have no Steel-types left, I can assume I managed to get rid of SR before sending Dragonite out. And that's a whole 'lotta picture. 
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Luxray's appearance is based on that of a fully-grown lion or lynx.
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From Bulba, still believe it's a lynx though
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