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Chart News: #1 Taylor 331/376k #3/#2 Nicki 201/251k #2/#3 Pent. 203/213k
Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Bang Up
Meanwhile, that 1,000,000+ opening (which still has people seething after three years kiii) is bigger than all of Nicki's opening numbers combined. And yes, you literally do fall from 1,000,000. The only artist to sell 1,000,000+ multiple times in this day and age is Taylor. Your logic would make sense if being able to sell over 1,000,000 a week was something that happened all the time.
The excuses as if Target is the only place to buy the album. What's the excuse as to why the album already dropped down on iTunes? Did iTunes run out of copies too?
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Except after hyping it up as "The Album of the Millennium" you would think it wouldn't drop 800K since her previous effort. The fact that you're acting like that's completely normal, when Gaga had arguably one of the biggest downfalls in pop music history
And no selling 1,000,000 isn't something easily done, but Gaga has Amazon to thank for it. Good for her, she outsold all of Nicki's opening numbers, but you want to tell me there was no decay from selling over 8M WW to not even cracking 1M in the US with chart drop? Sit.
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Member Since: 4/26/2012
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Originally posted by UNNAMI
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I know they're panicking.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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how do rap males sell so well and the females don't, lets compare her to Drake and J Cole who Debuted at roughly the same time.
(US SALES) FWS (first week sales) / TS (total sales)
Drake : TML - 447,000/1,551,000 TC - 631,000/2,003,000 NWTS - 658,000/1,535,000
J. Cole : CW - TSS 218,000/660,000 BS - 297,000/702,000 2014FHD - 350,000/-
Nicki Minaj : PF - 375,000/1,902,000 PF:RR 253,000/897,000 TPP- 155,000/-
The males have so much urban support but Nicki gets almost none, you'd almost expect nicki to sell better because she has the pop support that the males don't especially J. Cole and Drake to a lesser extent. I don't understand it - figures in the rap community have openly said Nicki is a better rapper than a lot of the males but they are still selling twice as much as her.
And then to add salt to the wound, Nicki isn't even selling as much as the pop females 3 albums deep
Lady GaGa: AP - 258,000/725,000
Beyoncé: IA...SF - 482,000/3,120,000
Katy Perry: P - 286,000/1,300,000
Nicki Minaj: TPP - 155,000/-
I'd have thought she'd be selling better with both the urban and the pop support she should (in theory) have....
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Member Since: 4/3/2014
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Onika get them decent sales.
The real question is, can she beat Taylor?
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Member Since: 9/3/2012
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Originally posted by IttyBittyNicki
Considering it was only released yesterday, this is amazing
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omg
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Member Since: 5/25/2009
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those are still good numbers for nicki what if she goes up from their
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Member Since: 6/1/2011
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Originally posted by V3$$3L.
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im SCREAMING.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by Vaw
how do rap males sell so well and the females don't, lets compare her to Drake and J Cole who Debuted at roughly the same time.
(US SALES) FWS (first week sales) / TS (total sales)
Drake : TML - 447,000/1,551,000 TC - 631,000/2,003,000 NWTS - 658,000/1,535,000
J. Cole : CW - TSS 218,000/660,000 BS - 297,000/702,000 2014FHD - 350,000/-
Nicki Minaj : PF - 375,000/1,902,000 PF:RR 253,000/897,000 TPP- 155,000/-
The males have so much urban support but Nicki gets almost none, you'd almost expect nicki to sell better because she has the pop support that the males don't especially J. Cole and Drake to a lesser extent. I don't understand it - figures in the rap community have openly said Nicki is a better rapper than a lot of the males but they are still selling twice as much as her.
And then to add salt to the wound, Nicki isn't even selling as much as the pop females 3 albums deep
Lady GaGa: AP - 258,000/725,000
Beyoncé: IA...SF - 482,000/3,120,000
Katy Perry: P - 286,000/1,300,000
Nicki Minaj: TPP - 155,000/-
I'd have thought she'd be selling better with both the urban and the pop support she should (in theory) have....
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Women in rap have a harder time, but honestly the real issue is that Nicki lost a lot of her urban support after Roman Reloaded. It probably wouldn't have been as bad if her transition to pop featured better music, but it wasn't smooth.
Anaconda is a pretty terrible lead song too, only the video makes it somewhat memorable.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by Iyanla, Fix Me
An Artpop sized mess
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Ch, you WISH it was an ARTPOP "sized mess"!
Its a way bigger MESS, but you tried tho.
Anywas, My expectations were quite accurate. I think she'll easily go Gold tho, which is still good.
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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Originally posted by IttyBittyNicki
Considering it was only released yesterday, this is amazing
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Bless your soul *hugs*
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
Well damn. But I think I predicted between 150-200. Saw it coming. The fact that she's released like 5 singles...
She lost her momentum when she lost the Flawless and Anaconda hype.
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That hype couln´t even sell the single...
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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Originally posted by Vaw
how do rap males sell so well and the females don't, lets compare her to Drake and J Cole who Debuted at roughly the same time.
(US SALES) FWS (first week sales) / TS (total sales)
Drake : TML - 447,000/1,551,000 TC - 631,000/2,003,000 NWTS - 658,000/1,535,000
J. Cole : CW - TSS 218,000/660,000 BS - 297,000/702,000 2014FHD - 350,000/-
Nicki Minaj : PF - 375,000/1,902,000 PF:RR 253,000/897,000 TPP- 155,000/-
The males have so much urban support but Nicki gets almost none, you'd almost expect nicki to sell better because she has the pop support that the males don't especially J. Cole and Drake to a lesser extent. I don't understand it - figures in the rap community have openly said Nicki is a better rapper than a lot of the males but they are still selling twice as much as her.
And then to add salt to the wound, Nicki isn't even selling as much as the pop females 3 albums deep
Lady GaGa: AP - 258,000/725,000
Beyoncé: IA...SF - 482,000/3,120,000
Katy Perry: P - 286,000/1,300,000
Nicki Minaj: TPP - 155,000/-
I'd have thought she'd be selling better with both the urban and the pop support she should (in theory) have....
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The PF slayage Her image has changed drastically since 2010, due to Roman Reloaded. That era had so much potential but there were way too many mistakes, on her part.
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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Originally posted by Comedor
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Look at her sales.
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This is gold. Straight to the ATRL Hall of Posts.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Bounce
Neither is Anaconda
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Anaconda isn't remembered?!?!
Okay, go outside and ask a couple people
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Retro
I've been defending Nicki but please don't pretend that people will think of Anaconda if you say that line. There's a much more significant song in music history from which Anaconda samples and that's what people will think of.
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True, but nobody was really talking of Sir Mix a Lot's Anaconda until Nicki sampled it and revived it. Let's be real.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I expected more from Nicki, especially since it's Christmas season.
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Member Since: 5/14/2009
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Originally posted by Vaw
how do rap males sell so well and the females don't, lets compare her to Drake and J Cole who Debuted at roughly the same time.
(US SALES) FWS (first week sales) / TS (total sales)
Drake : TML - 447,000/1,551,000 TC - 631,000/2,003,000 NWTS - 658,000/1,535,000
J. Cole : CW - TSS 218,000/660,000 BS - 297,000/702,000 2014FHD - 350,000/-
Nicki Minaj : PF - 375,000/1,902,000 PF:RR 253,000/897,000 TPP- 155,000/-
The males have so much urban support but Nicki gets almost none, you'd almost expect nicki to sell better because she has the pop support that the males don't especially J. Cole and Drake to a lesser extent. I don't understand it - figures in the rap community have openly said Nicki is a better rapper than a lot of the males but they are still selling twice as much as her.
And then to add salt to the wound, Nicki isn't even selling as much as the pop females 3 albums deep
Lady GaGa: AP - 258,000/725,000
Beyoncé: IA...SF - 482,000/3,120,000
Katy Perry: P - 286,000/1,300,000
Nicki Minaj: TPP - 155,000/-
I'd have thought she'd be selling better with both the urban and the pop support she should (in theory) have....
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A straight fan base is way more loyal and committed than a gay fan base. That will never change
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by MadMagical
People can talk a lot about it but did they buy it? It still hasn't outsold DWUW and Applause.
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One second they're asking whether the people remember it, the next whether they bought it
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Member Since: 11/5/2011
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I wonder if D will increase a bit
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Considering Katy and Gaga debuted with 280/260k I'd say 150-170k isn't that bad for Nicki...
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