[BeyonceHatesMe]

PLEASE let her give Ryan some tips for the season.
She could actually make it freaky/scary like Asylum

[Tylerbv]

Originally posted by TheGreatestThing

The Naaaaaaaaaaameeeeeee Gaaaaaaaaaaameeeeee!

Judy! Judy, Judy bo Budy Banana fanna fo Fody
Fee fy mo Mudy, Judy!
Lana! Lana, Lana bo Bana Banana fanna fo Fana
Fee fy mo Mana, Lana!

Come on, everybody!

I say now, let's play a game!
I betcha I can make a rhyme
outta anybody's name.
The first letter of the name,
I treat it like it wasn't there.
But a "B" or an "F"
or an "M" will appear.

And then I say "bo", add a "B", then
I say the name and "banana", "fanna" and a "fo".
And then I say the name again with an "F", very plain,
and a "fee", "fy" and a "mo".
And then I say the name again with an "M" this time,
and there isn't any name that I can't rhyme.

queen lana slayin the choreo

[Αnt]

I'm ready for Gaga's Emmy and Golden globe.

[Dylangaga]

Ahhhhh I'm just excited we're getting Rated R gaga on TV!!!!! hell yeahhhh! This is gonna be good

[Pierre]

So, I'm rewatching Murder House and I had completely forgotten about how flawless it is. None of this Freak Show ****, that was a disgrace to the show tbh.

[Moonchild]

Some parts of Freak Show were just . Neil Patrick Harris' character and miniature arc were so awful and pointless, maybe my least favorite parts of the entire series. The ways Maggie's and Jimmy's characters were written were laughable at points. Suzi and other freaks doing nothing for the entire season was s somewhat understandable, but annoying since they were named featured so prominently. The way the pacing just dragged was so unnecessary at times. I wish they had done more with Dell's gay subplot, too, because it seemed as though it was only there for Dell to be blackmailed.

I think Elsa Mars may be the best, most complex character AHS has ever made. Desiree was only a decent character, scriptwise, but Angela nailed the acting. Dandy was a very compelling antagonist, but Stanley and Maggie weren't.

Coven was too much story forced into too few episodes; Freak Show was too little story spaced across too many episodes. Freak Show may have had the most satisfying season finale, though, and second-best behind Asylum.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Freak Show was too little story spaced across too many episodes.

Oop, there it is.

And yeah, Chester was ridiculous, especially since it was episode 11 and they could not afford to have an episode dedicated to a special guest star.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

I'm just mad that, since Gaga's on the show, it's gonna focus on another singular character with the rest of the characters falling back compared to that one.

And anyone coming for this, don't argue-- Ryan will do it like he's DONE it. Have you seen the last 3 seasons? Murder House was the only one with an ensemble cast.

[KylieistBoi]

^Gaga is no Jessica Lange though. If I were Ryan I wouldn't put all my eggs in the same basket, she might backfire possibly The more I think about it the more I think there will be another huge reveal about cast right before/during Paleyfest.

[Moonchild]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

I'm just mad that, since Gaga's on the show, it's gonna focus on another singular character with the rest of the characters falling back compared to that one.

And anyone coming for this, don't argue-- Ryan will do it like he's DONE it. Have you seen the last 3 seasons? Murder House was the only one with an ensemble cast.

See @ KyleistBoi, for one, and I think Asylum and Coven are more ensemble than you credit it them for.

In Asylum the "main" character was Lana, but Mary Eunice, Jude and Kitt all starred in their own subplots that didn't involve Lana whatsoever. (On that topic, the alien subplot was the weakest in Asylum. It interrupted the tone and took away more than it gave.)

In Coven, the characters' struggles may have related back to Fiona, but the individual characters were still explored frequently. Madison's existential thoughts, the Kyle-Zoe-Madison triangle, Queenie-Delphine and Delphine's racism, Myrtle-Cordelia and Cordelia's want to help and prove herself, etc.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by KylieistBoi

^Gaga is no Jessica Lange though. If I were Ryan I wouldn't put all my eggs in the same basket, she might backfire possibly The more I think about it the more I think there will be another huge reveal about cast right before/during Paleyfest.

Gaga is no Jessica Lange, which is why the idea of it happening is even scarier. As for Paleyfest, we'll see, but it's still extremely likely Gaga is going to be our Jessica for the season.

Originally posted by TheGreatestThing

See @ KyleistBoi, for one, and I think Asylum and Coven are more ensemble than you credit it them for.

In Asylum the "main" character was Lana, but Mary Eunice, Jude and Kitt all starred in their own subplots that didn't involve Lana whatsoever. (On that topic, the alien subplot was the weakest in Asylum. Interrupts the tone and takes away more than it gives.)

In Coven, the characters' struggles may have related back to Fiona, but the individual characters were still explored frequently. Madison's existential thoughts, the Kyle-Zoe-Madison triangle, Queenie-Delphine and Delphine's racism, Myrtle-Cordelia and Cordelia's want to help and prove herself, etc.

I didn't mean to argue that all the other characters are there to support the main one. I meant that the singular main character's arcs are definitely more prominent than the rest, which is true for all three of the last seasons.

In Asylum, literally everyone died except Lana, and in the finale, the endings of the other characters seemed so small in comparison to what was happening with Lana. She was there to tell how it happened, and everyone else's screen time seemed so brief. The Monsignor and Grace seemed pointless in the end, even though Grace was my favorite character of the season, then Arden & SME's arcs were abruptly cut off in episode 10.

As for Coven, Fiona was arguably the main character throughout the season, only really rivaled by Cordelia (Which is pretty ironic). A true ensemble would make it impossible to tell who the main character was, or for there to be a solid argument for each one being the main character-- You can't possibly say Kyle, Spalding, Delphine, Misty or even Madison were the main character of the show.

[ahauntingnearu]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

Gaga is no Jessica Lange, which is why the idea of it happening is even scarier. As for Paleyfest, we'll see, but it's still extremely likely Gaga is going to be our Jessica for the season.

I didn't mean to argue that all the other characters are there to support the main one. I meant that the singular main character's arcs are definitely more prominent than the rest, which is true for all three of the last seasons.

In Asylum, literally everyone died except Lana, and in the finale, the endings of the other characters seemed so small in comparison to what was happening with Lana. She was there to tell how it happened, and everyone else's screen time seemed so brief. The Monsignor and Grace seemed pointless in the end, even though Grace was my favorite character of the season, then Arden & SME's arcs were abruptly cut off in episode 10.

As for Coven, Fiona was arguably the main character throughout the season, only really rivaled by Cordelia (Which is pretty ironic). A true ensemble would make it impossible to tell who the main character was, or for there to be a solid argument for each one being the main character-- You can't possibly say Kyle, Spalding, Delphine, Misty or even Madison were the main character of the show.

But your two posts are conflicting. Based on your definition, MHZ wasn't an ensemble cast either, because obviously the main characters were the Harmons...?

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by ahauntingnearu

But your two posts are conflicting. Based on your definition, MHZ wasn't an ensemble cast either, because obviously the main characters were the Harmons...?

There was not one, singular character that had their arcs outshine each other. Ben, Vivien, Tate, Violet & Constance were all around the same level. Larry was the odd man out there.

[Moonchild]

I see why people say Jessica plays the same character over and over, but I think that statement oversimplifies all four of her roles. They have overlapping traits, but their characterizations are still distinct.

Fiona and Constance are similar, but differ in their motives. Sister Jude, and especially Elsa, have such different personalities, characters and arcs. Jude's story is a quest for redemption, descent into madness and then learning to live again. Elsa's story is one marked with fantastical illusions and perceptions, a search for fame and a layered love for freaks and herself.

Saying they're all the same character is just incorrect.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

I literally did not mention, anywhere, the similarities of Jessica's characters

EDIT: That might not have been at me. Sorry.

[Tylerbv]

The issue with Freak Show is the issue that I think this season will have too. There's gonna be a cool concept, but Ryan's gonna waste like 3 episodes at the beginning like he did for Freak Show, and he's probably gonna cram as many characters into this as possible (watch something like Constance or Cordelia be in this season for some reason) just to please the fans. The plot in Freak Show would've been good as a 6-8 episode show where a few episodes/characters (Chester, Marjorie, Gloria, Regina, Penny) were cut out. Each episode would actually advance the plot.

[KylieistBoi]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

then Arden & SME's arcs were abruptly cut off in episode 10.

They died

[Moonchild]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

I literally did not mention, anywhere, the similarities of Jessica's characters

EDIT: That might not have been at me. Sorry.

It wasn't at you. It was a general statement, since I see that misconception a lot.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by KylieistBoi

They died

SME still had more to do. They could've made her go further with her takeover. And Arden never really did much except argue with Jude.

[Moonchild]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

SME still had more to do. They could've made her go further with her takeover. And Arden never really did much except argue with Jude.

The tea on Arden.

I will never understand, for the life of me, why James Cromwell won the Emmy for that role, especially against Zachary Quinto. Plus, Lily Rabe not getting nominated at all (for a top three AHS character), Sarah being nominated for "Supporting" Actress, and Jessica not winning for Sister Jude. The Emmys for Asylum were a mess.

And Jessica better at least be nominated for Elsa.