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News: Israeli-Palestinian conflict
Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
*Declaring cease-fire*
*Hamas fire at IDF forces*
*Suicide boomer explodes*
*Hamas kidnepts a soldier*
And the silence in this thread is huanting.
2 more soldiers were killed.
And people say Israel needs to stop. Well, we stopped and guess what, Hamas didn't.
I'm not sure what's gonna happen next but good, it won't be and yet again, Hamas is to blame for it.
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As fa ras I know of, for Israel, the cease-fire is not meant for the fight at the tunnels. So if freedom fighters launch a counter attack through the tunnels then it should not surprises the IDF forces.
You can't have tunnel fighting and then weeping when counter attacks take place.
We can twist and wriggle as much as we like, posting pro Israel articles or pro Palestinian articles, pro and contra, contra and pro. The Israelis will win the battle of the tunnels, sort of for this time, but the war of the pictures is lost and this will have consequences.
And this will have a way more effect than the Sabra and Shatila incident, 30 years ago.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 9/26/2001
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Originally posted by ZeroSuitBritney
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I know that there's only supposed to be one all-encompassing thread, but...I feel like we need to make an exception for this. This level of ignorance must be seen on a wider scale.
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Member Since: 5/15/2010
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'If we don't get our soldier back we should start levelling Gaza': Palestinians face new wave of bloodshed as ceasefire breaks down after Israeli soldier is 'kidnapped by Hamas'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-morning.html
It seems this war it's not going to stop anytime soon, this kidnapped soldier will worse things and Israel counter attacks/retaliations are brutal...
#FreePalestinefromHamas
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Member Since: 3/25/2009
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Originally posted by rbautz
As fa ras I know of, for Israel, the cease-fire is not meant for the fight at the tunnels. So if freedom fighters launch a counter attack through the tunnels then it should not surprises the IDF forces.
You can't have tunnel fighting and then weeping when counter attacks take place.
We can twist and wriggle as much as we like, posting pro Israel articles or pro Palestinian articles, pro and contra, contra and pro. The Israelis will win the battle of the tunnels, sort of for this time, but the war of the pictures is lost and this will have consequences.
And this will have a way more effect than the Sabra and Shatila incident, 30 years ago.
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Continued tunnel destruction was a pre-condition for Israel to agree to any cease-fire, and this is something Hamas agreed to under the terms of the cease-fire.
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Member Since: 3/25/2009
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I don't see Israel agreeing to any more 'cease-fires' and nor should they.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by ZeroSuitBritney
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He is sick. He's also stated on Twitter that not only is it permissible, but it is "responsible and moral."
https://twitter.com/ygordon5t/status/495244338452905985
The fact that they let this awful article be published says it all really
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
That is actually disgusting, how can the majority of Israeli citizens support blatant genocide. The IDF has been shown to be attacking innocents and bombing places like UN school not to mention the countless human rights crimes yet Israelis are still in support of it? Unbelievable
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And people of gaza want Israelis dead, better?
I from israel and I support this, NO MORE rockets on israel! we want to live in peace! why do I need to live in fear for years that one of this rockets can fall in my home!
They wanted "ceasefire" during this ceasefire terrorists from hamas emerged from tunnel and detonated bomb vest, killing two other soldiers and kidnapped another soldier. all this during " ceasefire" !!
it's easy for you to sit comfortably in the front of the computer and complain! you're not the one who getting rockets on your head for 14 years.
what israel should do ? sitting and waiting where the next rockets will fall?
what do you suggest? negotiate with Hamas?
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Member Since: 3/25/2009
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Originally posted by CakeLike
That is actually disgusting, how can the majority of Israeli citizens support blatant genocide. The IDF has been shown to be attacking innocents and bombing places like UN school not to mention the countless human rights crimes yet Israelis are still in support of it? Unbelievable
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They're fighting an enemy who calls for the annihilation of all jews, and who, for decades, has sent suicide bomber after suicide bomber into Israel exclusively targeting civilians in places such as schools and supermarkets.
I'm not Israeli, but it's not hard to see why they might support this war.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Yaelilol
And people of gaza want Israelis dead, better?
I from israel and I support this, NO MORE rockets on israel! we want to live in peace! why do I need to live in fear for years that one of this rockets can fall in my home!
They wanted "ceasefire" during this ceasefire terrorists from hamas emerged from tunnel and detonated bomb vest, killing two other soldiers and kidnapped another soldier. all this during " ceasefire" !!
it's easy for you to sit comfortably in the front of the computer and complain! you're not the one who getting rockets on your head for 14 years.
what israel should do ? sitting and waiting where the next rockets will fall?
what do you suggest? negotiate with Hamas?
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How about your country stops stealing land, building illegal settlements,, ends the siege on gaza, stops killing innocent civilians and bombing UN schools? It would be a start. If Israel truly wanted a ceasefire they would have ended the siege and ended the occupation, why else has netanyahu been rejecting John kerrys ceasefire proposals all week, it's all fine and dandy posting propaganda posters from the IDF but the facts tell us a different story. If israel truly wanted peace they wouldnt be killing innocents by the hundreds, you can argue all you want but your government wants land, not peace.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by Yaelilol
And people of gaza want Israelis dead, better?
I from israel and I support this, NO MORE rockets on israel! we want to live in peace! why do I need to live in fear for years that one of this rockets can fall in my home!
They wanted "ceasefire" during this ceasefire terrorists from hamas emerged from tunnel and detonated bomb vest, killing two other soldiers and kidnapped another soldier. all this during " ceasefire" !!
it's easy for you to sit comfortably in the front of the computer and complain! you're not the one who getting rockets on your head for 14 years.
what israel should do ? sitting and waiting where the next rockets will fall?
what do you suggest? negotiate with Hamas?
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Oh, so you are only 14 years old... Explains a lot.
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by CakeLike
How about your country stops stealing land, building illegal settlements,, ends the siege on gaza, stops killing innocent civilians and bombing UN schools? It would be a start. If Israel truly wanted a ceasefire they would have ended the siege and ended the occupation, why else has netanyahu been rejecting John kerrys ceasefire proposals all week, it's all fine and dandy posting propaganda posters from the IDF but the facts tell us a different story. If israel truly wanted peace they wouldnt be killing innocents by the hundreds, you can argue all you want but your government wants land, not peace.
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That's the biggest load of BS I've read so far.
If Israel wanted land, why did it return, not once and not twice, pieces of land?
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at this post. You sit here talking about Israel not wanting peace but ignore Hamas. That's so deluded.
How about Hamas stops using UN schools to hide rockets. Lunch missiles from inside civilian houses. Fire rockets into Israel. Stop breaking the cease-fire and let the Palestinians have a chance at a true peace.
#FreePalestineFromHamas.
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by Bríseis
Oh, so you are only 14 years old... Explains a lot.
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What she was saying is that it's been 14 years since Hamas has been firing rockets at us.
But if she is 14 yo, she probably has a way better reading comprehension than you do.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
How about your country stops stealing land, building illegal settlements,, ends the siege on gaza, stops killing innocent civilians and bombing UN schools? It would be a start. If Israel truly wanted a ceasefire they would have ended the siege and ended the occupation, why else has netanyahu been rejecting John kerrys ceasefire proposals all week, it's all fine and dandy posting propaganda posters from the IDF but the facts tell us a different story. If israel truly wanted peace they wouldnt be killing innocents by the hundreds, you can argue all you want but your government wants land, not peace.
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First of all we didn't steal land. in 1948 there was two countries for two nations. arabs don't like it and started the war with us, they lost land in war! Same in 1967, all the countries syria, lebanon, egypt and jordan was in war with israel, guess what - israel won this war and this lands!
Few years later, for peace with egypt we gave back all sinai- land that's bigger 2X from israel!
in 2005 we gave back gaza strip for peace!! now they are throwing rockets from there to israel !
UN 3 times has confirmed that they found rockets in these schools!
ends the siege on gaza? why? for terrorists to come to israel and bomb themselves in restaurants and buses ?
it's not that easy as you think..
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Bríseis
Oh, so you are only 14 years old... Explains a lot.
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i'm 22 .
During 14 years they throwing rockets from gaza strip.
and your point is ?
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
Posts: 15,264
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
That's the biggest load of BS I've read so far.
If Israel wanted land, why did it return, not once and not twice, pieces of land?
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at this post. You sit here talking about Israel not wanting peace but ignore Hamas. That's so deluded.
How about Hamas stops using UN schools to hide rockets. Lunch missiles from inside civilian houses. Fire rockets into Israel. Stop breaking the cease-fire and let the Palestinians have a chance at a true peace.
#FreePalestineFromHamas.
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I can imagine Hamas is not going to respect the cease fire when enemy forces are still on their land. I'd shoot enemies on my soil as well if they had no right to be there. Israelian forces should've retreated and been on their own land the moment the cease fire started, if Hamas had attacked then they would've been in the wrong
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
That's the biggest load of BS I've read so far.
If Israel wanted land, why did it return, not once and not twice pieces of land?
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at this post. You sit here talking about Israel not wanting peace but ignore Hamas. That's so deluded.
How about Hamas stops using UN schools to hide rockets. Lunch missiles from inside civilian houses. Fire rockets into Israel. Stop breaking the cease-fire and let the Palestinians have a chance at a true peace.
#FreePalestineFromHamas.
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Oh please, 2 peices of land, you seem to be forgetting about the countless illegal settlements it is building on Palestinian land, they grow in numbers everyday, do you support these land grabs? It is stealing land , you can deny all you want but those are the facts.
You should cry tbh, cry that you are being made to defend genocide.
Even before hamas even existed, Israel was stealing their land, Israel was controlling their lives, you can try to scream "hamas" everytime someone critisizes Israel but they have been doing this long before Hamas even existed.
US State Department cable : "Israeli officials have confirmed to Embassy officials on multiple occasions that they intend to keep the Gazan economy functioning at the lowest level possible consistent with avoiding a humanitarian crisis.. Israeli officials have confirmed.. on multiple occasions that they intend to keep the Gazan economy on the brink of collapse without quite pushing it over the edge."
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Member Since: 5/29/2011
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Originally posted by Yaelilol
First of all we didn't steal land. in 1948 there was two countries for two nations. arabs don't like it and started the war with us, they lost land in war! Same in 1967, all the countries syria, lebanon, egypt and jordan was in war with israel, guess what - israel won this war and this lands!
Few years later, for peace with egypt we gave back all sinai- land that's bigger 2X from israel!
in 2005 we gave back gaza strip for peace!! now they are throwing rockets from there to israel !
UN 3 times has confirmed that they found rockets in these schools!
ends the siege on gaza? why? for terrorists to come to israel and bomb themselves in restaurants and buses ?
it's not that easy as you think..
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Ugh shut up. The real terrorists are the zionists. And you guys stole Palestine.
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by BadMonster
I can imagine Hamas is not going to respect the cease fire when enemy forces are still on their land. I'd shoot enemies on my soil as well if they had no right to be there. Israelian forces should've retreated and been on their own land the moment the cease fire started, if Hamas had attacked then they would've been in the wrong
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Yet again, load of crap.
Someone already explained that part of the Cease-fire agreement with Hamas is that IDF would still be destroying tunnels.
So even if they were there, that's a breach of the cease-fire and is the same as if IDF would have fired an air strike on Gaza.
This is so damn funny and sad, if the IDF would have broken the cease-fire people would go nuts in here, yet, here we are and people are finding lame excuses how killing 2 soldiers and kidneping one is legit.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Romaysae
Ugh shut up. The real terrorists are the zionists. And you guys stole Palestine.
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shut up if you don't have nothing to say. "stole from palestine" palestine never exist and never defined as a legal country.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Yaelilol
First of all we didn't steal land. in 1948 there was two countries for two nations. arabs don't like it and started the war with us, they lost land in war! Same in 1967, all the countries syria, lebanon, egypt and jordan was in war with israel, guess what - israel won this war and this lands!
Few years later, for peace with egypt we gave back all sinai- land that's bigger 2X from israel!
in 2005 we gave back gaza strip for peace!! now they are throwing rockets from there to israel !
UN 3 times has confirmed that they found rockets in these schools!
ends the siege on gaza? why? for terrorists to come to israel and bomb themselves in restaurants and buses ?
it's not that easy as you think..
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There wasn't 2 nations, there was Palestine which was forced to give away the majority of land for the Zionist settlers from abroad who were the minority at the time. Israel is continuing to steal land to this day, building illegal settlements, building jewish only roads. What do you call the illegal settlements if they are not stealing land?
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