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Beyonce (closed: please see News post for more info)
Member Since: 6/22/2005
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You all are beyond ridiculous. There's about 2 posts about the actual duet and then the other 65 are about who's better. Shut the f*ck up, what the hell are you accomplishing? Why are we even comparing Shakira and Beyonce? They each have very unique styles. Shakira AND Beyonce are both VERY SUCCESSFUL. To call one or the other a flop is just simply ridiculous.
AND a reality check...Beyonce NOR Shakira are life and all that comes with it. So just get over it already!
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Anyway! This song will be collasal. I can't wait.
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Member Since: 2/19/2003
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Originally posted by Mister Tibbits
You all are beyond ridiculous. There's about 2 posts about the actual duet and then the other 65 are about who's better. Shut the f*ck up, what the hell are you accomplishing? Why are we even comparing Shakira and Beyonce? They each have very unique styles. Shakira AND Beyonce are both VERY SUCCESSFUL. To call one or the other a flop is just simply ridiculous.
AND a reality check...Beyonce NOR Shakira are life and all that comes with it. So just get over it already!
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Anyway! This song will be collasal. I can't wait.
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finally a poster with a brain.
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Member Since: 7/17/2003
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Originally posted by Kworb
Everyone knows Jennifer Hudson is the better singer, I'm sure Beyonce herself does too.
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Agree. I love Bee but the buzz is all around Jen and I think she deserves it !
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
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Originally posted by The Playboy of R&B
Damn with the f^ckin essays :tool:
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I know, reading is tough. Here, let me dumb it down for everyone to understand, yourself included.
Shakira = artist and musician. Has enormous success and critical acclaim, a.k.a "bling bling" (for the slow ones). She doesn't feel the need to ***** herself out 24/7 for chart positions and sales.
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
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Originally posted by Sir. Will
I'm saying that why doesn't Shakira promote? She's pretty stupid if she wants all her singles to flop...
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Are you slow or incapable or reading? She's already had enough success, she's been working nonstop for over 15 years and has already had the hits and sales along with the critical acclaim throughout her career.
I swear, it's like you're retarded.
It's as if it never occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, she doesn't care about "flopping" or not, that now she's at a point where she just wants to release a song because it's a good song, rather than because she's aiming at getting a #1 hit. She's sold over 9 million copies of her music worldwide in about a year with these 2 new albums, and had 2 enormous global hits. She's already made SONY BMG and Epic Records happy enough. Now it's her game to release whatever she wants, and considering how she's not promoting at all, I'm sure she doesn't give a flying f.uck about whether the singles flop or not. She doesn't care if some retard Billboard scanner is unsatisfied with her chart performances .
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Member Since: 8/24/2003
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Poor Beyoncé. She knows ALL the Oscar talk is about Jennifer Hudson's performance and the movie itself.
This film might score around 10 nominations including nods for Eddie Murphy and JHud, who is the frontrunner for the win already, she's beyond hyper buzzed.
Ha-ha Bee, maybe next time .
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Member Since: 6/23/2005
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This news also ade into headline gossip of the day in my country. LOL.
Since they said GOSSIP, guess you know what.
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Member Since: 10/15/2002
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Originally posted by Cuculiza
Poor Beyoncé. She knows ALL the Oscar talk is about Jennifer Hudson's performance and the movie itself.
This film might score around 10 nominations including nods for Eddie Murphy and JHud, who is the frontrunner for the win already, she's beyond hyper buzzed.
Ha-ha Bee, maybe next time .
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LMAO...you got that wrong...she will probably be nominated for Best Original Song for "Listen" and since she co-wrote it...the oscar will go to beyonce if she wins. So she may not get one for lead actress, but is still in the race for best song!!NOW EAT THAT SUCKA
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Member Since: 8/20/2004
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Im a fan of both Beyonce and Jennifer, saying that, Jennifer still has a long way to go before she is able to accomplish any of the things that Beyonce has, so i dont think Beyonce is worried at all and LMAO at the thread starter... Xtina stans are always the ones that post 'bad' news about Beyonce.
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I don't think this is true
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Originally posted by Fein4Music
lol ... Beyonce sings better than Hudson ... if Hudson was such a great singer she would have won Idol ... eviedently she didn't ... so
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So you've never ever seen any episode of American Idol in it's entire existence, have you?
Anyways, Bee cam off as a bitch in the double quotes and if "Listen" is nominated I really really hope the Academy asks Josh Groban or Minnie Driver or a whole bunch of French kids to sing it. As a sign of respect for letting her ruin three songs (the Polar Express number, The Chorus song no one knew and "Learn To Be Lonely") Cuz I am still annoyed by that stunt.
Of course, since they'll ignore "Idlewild Blue" or "Mighty O" come Oscar time, Best Song I could care less about
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Member Since: 6/6/2005
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Are you slow or incapable or reading? She's already had enough success, she's been working nonstop for over 15 years and has already had the hits and sales along with the critical acclaim throughout her career.
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You wish. You're retarded if you think Shakira has had so much success. The fact that you brag that Shakira has been working for 15 years and has only had like 5 hits is funny, and sad. Get over yourself, you stupid stan.
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Member Since: 2/19/2003
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Originally posted by Sir. Will
Are you slow or incapable or reading? She's already had enough success, she's been working nonstop for over 15 years and has already had the hits and sales along with the critical acclaim throughout her career.
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You wish. You're retarded if you think Shakira has had so much success. The fact that you brag that Shakira has been working for 15 years and has only had like 5 hits is funny, and sad. Get over yourself, you stupid stan.
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Sir, I think he is talking about the latin america market, in which yes Shakira is an icon and has been in the music business for 14-15 years....and trust me more than 5 hits, just counting Donde Estan Los Ladrones? singles it was 5 singles from that album and all were hits.
Just go to a Shakira concert and you will see how huge is this lady.
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Member Since: 6/6/2005
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Originally posted by Joster
Sir, I think he is talking about the latin america market, in which yes Shakira is an icon and has been in the music business for 14-15 years....and trust me more than 5 hits, just counting Donde Estan Los Ladrones? singles it was 5 singles from that album and all were hits.
Just go to a Shakira concert and you will see how huge is this lady.
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I understand, but I'm talking about in the US. here, nobody cares about her, at all. Except for her hips of course.
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Originally posted by Sir. Will
I understand, but I'm talking about in the US. here, nobody cares about her, at all. Except for her hips of course.
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Then why all of her 30+ concerts she gave here in the US got sold out? I wonder if Beyonce can do the same by herself (without the help of Alicia keys, Missy Elliott or Destiny's Child of course)
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Member Since: 2/19/2003
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Thats the problem you two don't understand each other, one is talking worldwide and the other is talking USA only.
Anyways in the USA she had more than 5 hits though, if you count the latin tracks :P
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ANYWAYS...people move on, when someone is fan of an artist they will do all they can to defend even trash the other artist for no reason...just move on.
Anways there is a chat tonight with Shakira...i'm sure people will ask her about this duet...will let you all know.
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Member Since: 1/19/2006
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Please no!!!!!..... I want a quiet 2007. that duet won't work for sure....we do not even know if they are really gonna do it...i hope not
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
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Originally posted by Sir. Will
You wish. You're retarded if you think Shakira has had so much success. The fact that you brag that Shakira has been working for 15 years and has only had like 5 hits is funny, and sad. Get over yourself, you stupid stan.
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Please, she's sold over 40 million albums single-handedly. She's exceeded expectations enormously. Nowhere would anyone expect a Spanish speaking artist to sell that much. And FYI, Shakira has had an impressive string of hits throughout her career. Just because they didn't all grace the Hot 100 (which would have been impossible for her earlier songs as there's way more English stations than Spanish stations in the U.S.), doesn't mean that she hasn't had many hits. Take off the horse blinders buddy. You can have hits without making it onto the American Billboard Hot 100 chart. Shakira's from Colombia. The majority of her work would have NEVER been able to make it onto radio stations in the U.S., thus not making it on the Hot 100, thus you would have never heard about them (because that's something completely out of your realm, can't think beyond the Hot 100 ). They were still all hits in their respected places (meaning Latin America and Spanish speaking markets where her songs were played, duh).
You're retarded because you're so consumed with numbers and statistics that it's the only thing that lets you decide whether a song or artist is good or bad. Shakira could release musical ****, have it hit #1, and you would be happy and satisfied. You would probably love it. Hey, that's all you want...... a chart to validate and song and allow you like it. You're simply a brainwashed Billboard nerd, incapable of formulating an opinion on your own. All you have for a comeback is BS about her not being successful (which just makes you look stupid) and her only having 5 hits, which is also a tremendous lie, and completely goes back to the point that all you care about is chart positions.
Shakira has had enormous success throughout her career. That is a fact. A girl from Colombia is not expected to sell 40 million albums. She's hardly expected to sell a million. Shakira has exceeded expectations enormously. Just because you want to be hard headed it doesn't mean that she hasn't had a successful career.
Waits and imagines comeback: "blah blah blah blah, only 5 hits. Not successful. Billboard tells me everything. I can't think on my own, yet I want to call others "stans". Only America counts even though she's not from the U.S. and has had a huge following in her native land, Latin America. Only 5 hits. Charts tell me what songs are good. I'm going to listen to "Laffy Taffy" now."
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Member Since: 6/6/2005
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Originally posted by vuelve88
Please, she's sold over 40 million albums single-handedly. She's exceeded expectations enormously. Nowhere would anyone expect a Spanish speaking artist to sell that much. And FYI, Shakira has had an impressive string of hits throughout her career. Just because they didn't all grace the Hot 100 (which would have been impossible for her earlier songs as there's way more English stations than Spanish stations in the U.S.), doesn't mean that she hasn't had many hits. Take off the horse blinders buddy. You can have hits without making it onto the American Billboard Hot 100 chart. Shakira's from Colombia. The majority of her work would have NEVER been able to make it onto radio stations in the U.S., thus not making it on the Hot 100, thus you would have never heard about them (because that's something completely out of your realm, can't think beyond the Hot 100 ). They were still all hits in their respected places (meaning Latin America and Spanish speaking markets where her songs were played, duh).
You're retarded because you're so consumed with numbers and statistics that it's the only thing that lets you decide whether a song or artist is good or bad. Shakira could release musical ****, have it hit #1, and you would be happy and satisfied. You would probably love it. Hey, that's all you want...... a chart to validate and song and allow you like it. You're simply a brainwashed Billboard nerd, incapable of formulating an opinion on your own. All you have for a comeback is BS about her not being successful (which just makes you look stupid) and her only having 5 hits, which is also a tremendous lie, and completely goes back to the point that all you care about is chart positions.
Shakira has had enormous success throughout her career. That is a fact. A girl from Colombia is not expected to sell 40 million albums. She's hardly expected to sell a million. Shakira has exceeded expectations enormously. Just because you want to be hard headed it doesn't mean that she hasn't had a successful career.
Waits and imagines comeback: "blah blah blah blah, only 5 hits. Not successful. Billboard tells me everything. I can't think on my own, yet I want to call others "stans". Only America counts even though she's not from the U.S. and has had a huge following in her native land, Latin America. Only 5 hits. Charts tell me what songs are good. I'm going to listen to "Laffy Taffy" now."
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Umm, that whole paragraph was filled with ignorant comments about me. I HATE "Laffy Taffy", I look at a lot of world charts (but I'm obviously not going to dig deep to look at distinct country's charts -- where Shakira is usually #1). I pretty much develop my own taste not by listening to songs on the radio... I love how you just said that I only listen to songs that are successful on the charts. Whatever, I never really said that Shakira wasn't successful, I was saying that she wasn't successful here (did you not see that?) and it's sooo true. I don't care about worldwide facts because I don't live in Bulgaria... But whatever. But please, I hope you can just look at your paragraph, essay, again, and just read all the things on there that you assumed about me which you OBVIOUSLY don't know are rightfully true or not. Oh yeah, and please, stop using the word retarded. We are both far from it and it's such a degrading, cruel word to use for someone that undeniably isn't.
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
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Originally posted by Sir. Will
Umm, that whole paragraph was filled with ignorant comments about me. I HATE "Laffy Taffy", I look at a lot of world charts (but I'm obviously not going to dig deep to look at distinct country's charts -- where Shakira is usually #1). I pretty much develop my own taste not by listening to songs on the radio... I love how you just said that I only listen to songs that are successful on the charts. Whatever, I never really said that Shakira wasn't successful, I was saying that she wasn't successful here (did you not see that?) and it's sooo true. I don't care about worldwide facts because I don't live in Bulgaria... But whatever. But please, I hope you can just look at your paragraph, essay, again, and just read all the things on there that you assumed about me which you OBVIOUSLY don't know are rightfully true or not. Oh yeah, and please, stop using the word retarded. We are both far from it and it's such a degrading, cruel word to use for someone that undeniably isn't.
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They're all true. First you say to me "you're retarded if you think Shakira has had so much success", claiming she's only had 5 hits (which is a lie), now you're trying to backtrack and say it's only including U.S., which is still a lie, because she had U.S. hits even with her Spanish songs before she even crossed over. Her reputation as being the Best of Latin Pop crossed over when she did. You can't just dump out 10 years and overlook it all. Her past success led to her crossover. Put the two together Sherlock.
Oh, and my bad, you use world charts to tell you what songs to like, not just the Billboard Hot 100. Me bad. You're still a tool who can't formulate an opinion beyond sales and chart positions. Your blasting of Shakira as a "f.ucking idiot" and Queen of Flops for not promoting 24/7 and whoring herself out to please you and your musical groupies/bandwagon jumpers proves that point (regardless of your claim to develop your own tastes by not listening to radio, please.... ). You can try to backtrack all you want, you're still a tool.
And I think if you can call Shakira a "f.ucking idiot" despite having sold over 40 million albums, and having won 8 Latin Grammies and 2 regular Grammy awards, and having had the biggest song of the year Worldwide, I'm rightfully entitled to use the word "retarded" when referring to your inability to grasp very easy concepts (such as the idea of releasing artistic singles without the intent of getting a #1 single and pleasing everyone and their mothers).
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