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Fan Base: Archived: Taylor Swift (#2)
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To those that live in Malaysia, stay safe. 
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Taylor should not go on spotify. Artists get barely anything from streaming sites like Spotify. Why would she go on Spotify when she can sell 1.2 million albums in the US alone in week 1? And that is with an album priced at a premium. Taylor should only release to streaming 6 months or so after release. Why should Spotify get a cut of the profits from Taylor's music? What Taylor should do with Spotify is INVEST in it, like Justin Bieber did. As a shareholder, she would benefit from all the streaming, as it is Spotify as the middle-men who take a slice of the profit.
http://www.nme.com/news/atoms-for-peace/71462
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25217353
Spotify pay out a measly $0.007 per play on average. Taylor's tracks on iTunes US are $1.29 each. So a track would have to be streamed on average 185 times before it was the equivalent to the purchase price of one purchase on iTunes. You'd have to be a hard-core stan or really like a track to stream it 185 times and those people are likely to buy it anyway. Taylor is a major artist so she could probably get more revenue per play than the average artist but it is still a miniscule amount compared to sales revenues. Also Taylor has just spoken out on WSJ against free music, so she won't then allow her tracks to be on Spotify until months after release.
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Originally posted by WayTooHonest13
To those that live in Malaysia, stay safe. |
The plane was shot down at the Ukraine-Russia conflict zone, not in Malaysia
#PrayForMH17 
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Originally posted by revel8
Taylor should not go on spotify. Artists get barely anything from streaming sites like Spotify. Why would she go on Spotify when she can sell 1.2 million albums in the US alone in week 1? And that is with an album priced at a premium. Taylor should only release to streaming 6 months or so after release. Why should Spotify get a cut of the profits from Taylor's music? What Taylor should do with Spotify is INVEST in it, like Justin Bieber did. As a shareholder, she would benefit from all the streaming, as it is Spotify as the middle-men who take a slice of the profit.
http://www.nme.com/news/atoms-for-peace/71462
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25217353
Spotify pay out a measly $0.007 per play on average. Taylor's tracks on iTunes US are $1.29 each. So a track would have to be streamed on average 185 times before it was the equivalent to the purchase price of one purchase on iTunes. You'd have to be a hard-core stan or really like a track to stream it 185 times and those people are likely to buy it anyway. Taylor is a major artist so she could probably get more revenue per play than the average artist but it is still a miniscule amount compared to sales revenues. Also Taylor has just spoken out on WSJ against free music, so she won't then allow her tracks to be on Spotify until months after release. |
My thoughts exactly 
And thanks for the info  You're so informative, I like your posts 
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Adele will sell more in US and WW than Taylor. You just cannot ignore the facts.
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#2 is not bad
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Adele will sell more in US and WW than Taylor. You just cannot ignore the facts.
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It's not factual though.  For all we know she could be a modern day Alanis. 
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Originally posted by beherebynow
The plane was shot down at the Ukraine-Russia conflict zone, not in Malaysia
#PrayForMH17
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Yeah but there will surely be riots, or are the people staying pretty calm?
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Originally posted by beherebynow
The plane was shot down at the Ukraine-Russia conflict zone, not in Malaysia
#PrayForMH17
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This is scary. 
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Originally posted by revel8
Taylor should not go on spotify. Artists get barely anything from streaming sites like Spotify. Why would she go on Spotify when she can sell 1.2 million albums in the US alone in week 1? And that is with an album priced at a premium. Taylor should only release to streaming 6 months or so after release. Why should Spotify get a cut of the profits from Taylor's music? What Taylor should do with Spotify is INVEST in it, like Justin Bieber did. As a shareholder, she would benefit from all the streaming, as it is Spotify as the middle-men who take a slice of the profit.
http://www.nme.com/news/atoms-for-peace/71462
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25217353
Spotify pay out a measly $0.007 per play on average. Taylor's tracks on iTunes US are $1.29 each. So a track would have to be streamed on average 185 times before it was the equivalent to the purchase price of one purchase on iTunes. You'd have to be a hard-core stan or really like a track to stream it 185 times and those people are likely to buy it anyway. Taylor is a major artist so she could probably get more revenue per play than the average artist but it is still a miniscule amount compared to sales revenues. Also Taylor has just spoken out on WSJ against free music, so she won't then allow her tracks to be on Spotify until months after release. |
I think it'll be interesting to see what route they take with it this time round.  Good insight though!
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Yeah but there will surely be riots, or are the people staying pretty calm?
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We are devastated but there are no riots whatsoever.
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This is scary.
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I know right
The worst thing is neither Ukraine nor Russia wanna take the blame for shooting the plane down
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Are there any Red music video icons left? It would be great if I could have one. 
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@MikeMcVay - Name dropping …. @taylorswift remains one of the nicest stars I have ever met.
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Is he someone relevant? :/
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Apparently Taylor was seen in a studio shooting something today!! 
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Member Since: 5/9/2012
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I just got my Fearless Limited Edition collectors box. 
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Is Taylor Swift's less sexualized image helping her career?
Defining why certain musical artists have staying power and others don't almost seems like an impossible endeavor. It certainly isn't talent. I learned that when Madonna clearly won out over Cyndi Lauper in the female pop singer battle of the early 80s. But there is often this indefinable substance that differentiates people like Justin Timberlake from dozens of emotive singers in boy bands whose sun has set on their career before they were 30. Or which has helped Katy Perry and her candy colored persona endure far more than other pop singers, including the quickly fading career of Lady Gaga. Or especially why Beyonce continues to be relevant across several genres of music while many of her contemporaries have faded from the spotlight.
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Swift distinguishes herself by not taking the road many female entertainers do when they're trying to enter a mature market. Instead of changing her image, Swift changes the content of her music to reflect her maturity and how she's evolved; she's done it extremely well, especially for someone her age. It has made a huge difference in her staying power and in her success.
Now while Bridges might not be saying that Swift remains popular because she retains a less sexual image, she is implying to some extent that there is a typical path towards pop star womanhood. By deviating from that path, Swift is not alienating her audience, which in turn, increases her staying power. She is not necessarily saying that someone like Perry will, on the other hand, not remain relevant or retain an audience but rather, the reasons and the relationship to the fans will be far different. (I'd also argue that Beyonce is not a peer of Taylor Swift in any way so I am not sure why she is invoked here. Not only is Beyonce's career about a decade longer than either one of them, I think conflating Perry's, Lady Gaga's and Beyonce's feminist persona does short shrift to Beyonce's gradual evolution as an artist. But that's a whole other argument).
I think there is some truth to that idea. Growing up as a woman in this culture, I remember finding it tiresome that maturity often meant a very typical type of sexualization. So when Christina Aguilera wanted to announce her transition to adulthood, she did with Dirrty. So dirty, it needed an extra r. Or when Britney went from teenage coquette in Gimme One More Time to faux bisexuality with Madonna at the VMA awards. Or of course, Miley Cyrus's almost carnival-like sexuality has definitely launched her into adulthood and she even brought along noted creep Terry Richardson to help with her image.
But to be honest, that can be alienating to many women whose path to adulthood is not just about passive sexualization. I mean, sure, there is something to be said about increasingly exploring your sexuality, especially as an actor and not as a passive object. There is something about being subversive especially around female sexual imagery. I mean, in the 80s and 90s, Madonna was considered a revolutionary in some circles for her image and many cultural wars burned because of her experimentation with her image. And yes, like Bridges's writes, they often assume a feminist stance, which is great, but not all feminists relate to each other. And certainly a lot of young women aren't going to relate to how many female pop artists define their sexuality.
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For many of Swift's fans, her experience and even more so, her feelings around dealing with love, friends and childhoods similarly resonate despite the overt differences. Her contemporaries' pop hooks and provocative images might temporarily capture her fans' attention but the same image does not promote the kind of identification that solicits more enduring dedication to an artist.
While Taylor Swift is the lightest and airiest of stars, she also is powerful enough in her own right to be in control of her own maturation, even though the media consistently tries to characterize her as desperate or silly because of her dating history. Her desire to take control of her own image has likely helped retain her fans who might find more in common with her than with people like Miley or even Katy Perry (despite Perry's occasional forays into the inspirational power ballad). Yes, you are a firework, Katy, but that mostly seems like ********. And maybe to an extent, the music industry will take notice that young women are often the best judges of what is an authentic trajectory of maturity because even if Swift's image is heavily controlled, there seems to be considerable evidence that she is doing much of the controlling.
Of course, the industry being what they are will likely just seek out dozens of imitators with a less sexualized approach and that will become a new way alienate women. They do it when any other act shows resonates. But you know, we can always hope for incremental change
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To read the full article go here: http://powderroom.jezebel.com/is-tay...-ca-1606482131
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Originally posted by GeorgiaStars
Apparently Taylor was seen in a studio shooting something today!! |
  Good news.
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Apparently Taylor was seen in a studio shooting something today!! |
People are saying it's probably more Vevo certified videos  Not gonna get my hopes up.
Though the Vevo Certified Vids could be fun 
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People are saying it's probably more Vevo certified videos Not gonna get my hopes up.
Though the Vevo Certified Vids could be fun |
What videos have been certified since last time? Never Ever, 22 and Trouble?
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