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Originally posted by IMPACTNET.
This is what we call talking without having anything to say. All of that energy used to make this post and for what? No one ever said Beyoncé didn't have impact or influence. She just doesn't have as much as those before her and she never will. None of this puts her above the aforementioned, except Celine, which was the point of the thread. So I don't know what you were trying to prove with all of this.
And much of this is just foolishness. "her hip swaying, hair tossing, showgirl-esque style has been emulated by other female artists since 2003." So Beyoncé pioneered hip-swaying and hair flips now? What a mess.
In terms of music videos, Michael, Janet and Madonna revolutionized that medium, not Beyoncé. Nothing Beyoncé has done will ever touch Thriller, Rhythm Nation or Like A Prayer. There would be no Lemonade, if others before her hadn't penetrated the music video medium in such a way. Beyoncé has done great work with videos, but it's not better than Madonna or Janet's work.
All of those "big pop culture events" could apply to Janet, Madonna and Whitney as well. In fact, they all had bigger pop culture events than Beyoncé. None of this will ever top Rhythm Nation, The Bodyguard or Like A Prayer. Same goes for costuming. I mean, the Rhythm Nation costume is more recognized and influential than anything Beyoncé has ever worn.
And AGAIN, for the millionth time, no one ever said Beyoncé was not great. She just isn't on the level of Janet, Madonna, Mariah and Whitney. All of the achievements you listed for Beyoncé, we could do the same for those before, and the achievements would be even more impressive.
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Your entire post reeks of anger.. and I don't know why. I didn't even compare her until the end when i said she was most certainly on their level and she is.
Honestly, you haven't refuted a thing I posted
Beyoncé
has influenced female artists (performances, choreography and styling) since 2003. Like, no one here can deny that a majority of post-2003 K-pop artists, R&B artists and some female pop artists were indeed heavily influenced by Beyoncé's style of dancing, which is completely different from Janet's and Madonna's (who were the main ones to look up to in that department before Beyoncé). You can't refute that, it's right there to see
The reason they do, is because Bey's high energy moves aren't especially difficult to emulate but you still look good doing them because they're so dynamic (hair wips, twerking, etc).
Like I could literally post side by side shots of Ariana, Fifth Harmony, Rihanna and Meghan Trainor doing routines super similar to Bey's or set ups that looks like the same.
Ariana even hired twin dancers, so she could do the symmetry aesthetic Bey does
But wait... I know, Beyoncé didn't invent twin dancers fkbserjhgbr
Well here's Little Mix wearing On The Run costumes.. twerking
but you'll say they're not influenced by Beyoncé cause twerking is an age old African tradition, ffffffffff
But hey, you can say what you want, but Beyoncé doesn't just influence female pop artists, her influence is everywhere because she's a really creative brain/team that can take from old work and create new iconic imagery and it doesn't take like major props, she'll do something like this'
and it'll get referenced in dance competitions in France
Cause it's good. Beyoncé is good. Beyoncé is on that level, period.