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Ciara: "Fantasy Ride" era discussion
Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by CLICK___
Shoud i be getting woried? Her bullet is decreasing HARD since last thursday. I mean its ciara she should have been on the main Itunes charts by now.
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You should be a bit worried. While the audience is moving up steadily, it's only in two formats and they are moves that could/should be made on one format alone. Also, as you stated, the bullets are decreasing dramatically which will eventually lead to a decrease in audience. :-/
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Originally posted by Boneslive
#106 now, I wish she would get put on the main page.
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IKR? You can't do much on iTunes if nobody knows that your song is out.
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Ciara Featuring Young Jeezy - Never Ever - 2/3 [7-Day]
Pop - 5 [-3] (-5 bullet)
Rhythmic - 454 [+93] (-23 bullet)
Urban - 680 [+181] (-23 bullet)
Urban AC - 15 [-8] (-3 bullet)
Alternative - 2 [-1] (same)
Overall Audience - 6.351 [+1.980]
Overall Spins - 1,158 [+264]
- Completely lost it's Pop bullet, so I guess that won't take off anytime soon as I expected. Well, bullets dropped everywhere. But I'm guessing the Urban/Rhythmic spins are still giving it's rise in Audience.
Ciara Featuring Young Jeezy - Never Ever - 2/3 [Daily]
Pop - 5 [-2] (-2 spins)
Rhythmic - 454 [+3] (-12 spins)
Urban - 680 [+29] (+4 spins)
Urban AC - 15 [-2] (-2 spins)
Alternative - 2 [+0] (no spins)
Overall Audience - 6.351 [+0.513]
Overall Spins - 1,158 [+30]
- Urban is the only place where she is staying consistent. From the looks of both RHY aspects 7day/daily, it'll start decreasing in spins soon. Regardless, those minimal spins are bringing her Audience up! Bring on the promo!
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
IKR? You can't do much on iTunes if nobody knows that your song is out.
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That's the label/management fault, which I'm very surprised. They worked Jordin, Britney, Justin, etc. to the max to make sure people knew their new stuff was out, but are barely doing anything with Ciara. I'm guessing it's mostly due to her management, because they are the ones who book events and make the extensive promos. A video release, which still not many probably knew about it, is not enough. Even Eminem's song is #1 on iTunes and blowing up in it's respective formats, and all they did was leak the official version.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
That's the label/management fault, which I'm very surprised. They worked Jordin, Britney, Justin, etc. to the max to make sure people knew their new stuff was out, but are barely doing anything with Ciara. I'm guessing it's mostly due to her management, because they are the ones who book events and make the extensive promos. A video release, which still not many probably knew about it, is not enough. Even Eminem's song is #1 on iTunes and blowing up in it's respective formats, and all they did was leak the official version.
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They are all Jive, she's Laface and you make good points! Maybe it's going to be like how it was on the internet, people didn't really like it and now alot of people do.
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As usually, Rico comes in a ****s the thread with exaggeration and over-analyzed conclusions.
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Rico stated the truth, which was basically everything you didn't want to hear.
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Originally posted by danjaboi
98 now on I-tunes!!!
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Originally posted by Solutionz
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Originally posted by Solutionz
Rico stated the truth, which was basically everything you didn't want to hear.
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I don't wanna hear? I already know that and more, he quoted like 40 people and post a FULL radio update with comentary, it's called EXAGGERATION. He doesn't even do that for BRITNEY JEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear your opinion on this besides your usual "Flop" and watered down mess, stay out of the thread if you're only gonna co-sign with an educated vesrion of what you were trying to say last night.
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I wouldn't want "Never Ever" to do really well on iTunes now. (unless of its in the top 10)
I would rather have it do good on iTunes when its top 10 on radio and when the video is regularly played.
I dont want it to peak now, and then go down the next day, i want to slowly get to the top
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
I don't wanna hear? I already know that and more, he quoted like 40 people and post a FULL radio update with comentary, it's called EXAGGERATION. He doesn't even do that for BRITNEY JEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear your opinion on this besides your usual "Flop" and watered down mess, stay out of the thread if you're only gonna co-sign with an educated vesrion of what you were trying to say last night.
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I agreed with letscauseascene, answered CLICK's question, and gave my thoughts on how you can't do much without promotion. It's not called exaggeration, it's called responding. It's exaggeration to you, of course, because the truth hurts. And I do put commentary on Britney's updates, obviously not as much because "IUSA" isn't even taking off much yet and obviously because there is more to talk about with Ciara such as it's decreasing. Add on the fact that Britney is having success, what's much to say? But not surprised that her name would come up anyways.
In conclusion, just because YOU don't wanna see it or whatever your psychotic reasons doesn't mean I have to play cover-up. The spins are falling. What do you want? Just like you called out Solutionz for coming in here when the song is starting to fall, you stopped updating when you noticed it. Now please, calm down and let me handle business. I've already stated I like the song, and have stated the possible ways it can begin to surge again. I'm sorry I'm not being a complete robot, but I can't be that way.
Anyways, #98 is great. Means the word is spreading, hopefully it'll keep up the steady climb.
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Originally posted by Get Em CiCi
I wouldn't want "Never Ever" to do really well on iTunes now. (unless of its in the top 10)
I would rather have it do good on iTunes when its top 10 on radio and when the video is regularly played.
I dont want it to peak now, and then go down the next day, i want to slowly get to the top
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That would've been a better approach for this single, I think. I mean at least after realizing it has no real promo. Suppressing the downloads until radio is high would've been better.
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All i can say is there are other ways of promoting.They could send out Myspace bulletins, headline on her page, add popups to the video on youtube saying "on itunes", make a blog about, PUT IT ON HER OFFICIAL WEBSITE. I remember back in 2004, Ciara's website was one of the best out there. It was always updated and the Forum was HUGE for a new artist. They obviously are expecting Never,Ever to last until the album release but when Turntables is already getting radio play and the listeners are overwhelmingly liking it then you might as well give it to them.
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
I don't wanna hear? I already know that and more, he quoted like 40 people and post a FULL radio update with comentary, it's called EXAGGERATION. He doesn't even do that for BRITNEY JEAN.
I'm still waiting to hear your opinion on this besides your usual "Flop" and watered down mess, stay out of the thread if you're only gonna co-sign with an educated vesrion of what you were trying to say last night.
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The song overall has a nice production, but it just stays flat the entire time. There's no point in the song what-so-ever that makes me go, WOW, I like this.
The promotion/ management handling has been a hot mess and a half, and the song isn't doing to well on iTunes.
To top it all off, the spins are decreasing.
I'll give this a chance Tierra, but right now, things aren't looking to bright.
Oh, and the video is cheap.
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Originally posted by Boneslive
All i can say is there are other ways of promoting.They could send out Myspace bulletins, headline on her page, add popups to the video on youtube saying "on itunes", make a blog about, PUT IT ON HER OFFICIAL WEBSITE. I remember back in 2004, Ciara's website was one of the best out there. It was always updated and the Forum was HUGE for a new artist. They obviously are expecting Never,Ever to last until the album release but when Turntables is already getting radio play and the listeners are overwhelmingly liking it then you might as well give it to them.
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I agree. They seem to be not putting any kind of effort behind the promotion. I mean the radio release was just a premiere date, and the video I didn't even know about until I was told by Tierra. It's like they are expecting for people to just jump on her because she's Ciara, but it's truthfully not the hit Ciara for 2004-2005. If it was an upbeat track like "Turntables" it would most definitely get more pre-hype, especially with Chris' name on it.
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95. Never Ever (feat. Young Jeezy) - Ciara
Never Ever (feat. Young Jeezy) by Ciara from the album Never Ever (feat. Young Jeezy) - Single
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
95. Never Ever (feat. Young Jeezy) - Ciara
Never Ever (feat. Young Jeezy) by Ciara from the album Never Ever (feat. Young Jeezy) - Single
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Originally posted by KarlosVzla
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don't be sarcastic KarlosVzla
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