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News: London elects first Muslim mayor
Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Brando
Yay and nay at the same time tbh. Yay because labour, nay because muslim. London already suffers too much from overly religious muslim communities. Where as christians are long secular and harmless, muslims are still all up in their own butts about islam and their misogynistic, homophobic ways.
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destroying abortion clinics and killing doctors = "secular and harmless"
you guys are so western-centric. clearly christians never do anything wrong ever because they're the majority in certain countries. honestly.
every religion has terrible people in it. i don't think christians in general are violent, but to say christians are somehow exempt from that is moronic.
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As someone who lives here, homophobia from Christians is a lot more prevalent, but people call them out. Inside of some of their more insular communities, Muslims can get away with some really vile stuff. It's largely a generational thing, it's going, but it should be challenged. Hopefully a prominent liberal Muslim can set a good example for them.
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Originally posted by Atlantis
How predictable. Not every critism against Islam is ''Islamophobia!!1 . There is actually a reason why people are afraid/don't like Muslims.
Y'all can keep pretenting to be ''so happy for this '' though. I personally couldn't care less.
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"TROP is a non-partisan, fact-based site that examines the ideological threat that Islam poses to human dignity and freedom."
yeah, such a reliable source you have there. definitely no chance of that being biased.
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Originally posted by Koons
I agree with you in many ways, though a lot of people here will likely brand you racist/a bigot.
I'm all for us being progressive etc, but the reality is that a LOT of muslim people, especially those in London are quite offensive and even outright disgusting with their views.
As you've said it comes down to living here, i think only those who live in London (or at least the UK and have witnessed these areas) can really understand and pass judgement. I know a couple of muslim girls who are good friends with my sister, they're lovely people (although they're not living in London currently). However unfortunately on the other side of the coin I've seen a LOT of hate speech from muslims, both from those in London and the surrounding areas, with extremely homophobic/sexist views and frankly it can be quite sickening at times.
So whilst I feel the 'progressive' side of this is something to be applauded - The fact can't be escaped that a lot of people who practice this faith are not very nice people purely because of what they believe their 'god' tells them.
Anyhow if the comments are true that this man is a liberal muslim (I've heard arguments for and against this so I'm not sure what's confirmed) who will vote for the gay people, women, and just overall going against what most muslims see as traditional views, then I'm very happy.
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Why do you mean by "their God" you do know that Muslims, jews and Christians have the same god and pray for the EXACT same god, right? And all of the books condemn homosexuality and consider it a sin, I recall that in the Bible (having studied it this year) that gays "shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them".
But times have changed, people need to put aside their religious beliefs and let others live as they wish, as long as they're not harming anyone! I'm moroccan and my family has been Muslim for generations now and they don't care about sexual orientation, I have many gay friends and my mom and grand mother (who both practice Islam and wear the hijab) love them, and treat them just as they would treat anyother person.
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yas king
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He represents London just as much as a rich, white guy. He seems like a nice man with a humble background.
His religion doesn't matter me unless he allows it to interfere.
If anything, it may help in these Islamophobic and extremist times having him voted as the face of London. Like he said, it's a statement against fear.
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The rise of Islam
The prophecy is true
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Great for London - let's embrace diversity and inclusion all around the world
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Enough with the xenophobia and bigotry.
Judge that politician by his political views, not his personal religion.
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Now Boris Johnson can go on Celebrity Big Brother.
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Originally posted by Coklek92
The rise of Islam
The prophecy is true
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what prophecy?
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Originally posted by MileysusSlayrus
But Muslims are only 5% of the entire population of Europe... Anyway, if you're going to colonize dozens of Muslim countries for years, exploit their ressources, rape their women and leave the country in a s*** situation, it's only logical that many of those people you colonized will come to your country in hope of a better futur.
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They're 5% of the population now. Their fertility rates are up to 6 times higher than that of native Europeans. In a matter of a few decades, they will become an electorate to whose governments will have to appeal to, which will pave the way for them to change Europe in a legislative way.
Even the liberal Muslims won't be so eager to cling to their "liberalism", when they become a majority - my personal opinion. While younger generations will always be prone to going radical whenever they feel down in their lives. The difference between radical Islam and radical Christian beliefs is that Christian terrorism is virtually nonexistent.
You guys speak of liberal Muslims with Western values but yet there are too many cases of them not respecting European beliefs. That also includes homophobia, so it's beyond me why all the liberal gays support this
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims. And don't come here speaking of IRA and Basque nationalists, the risk from them is nothing compared to an army of people fighting for their spiritual beliefs. And there is really no effective way to combat Muslim radicalism (the term itself is stupid, because what they're doing is literally said in their holy book), it's being swept under the carpet. I don't want a Muslim radicalism problem and the only effective way of it is making those who are so unhappy with the rotten West leave.
Sorry for not being sorry. Like it here or leave, I don't recall Christians being treated nicely in Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia or other Muslim-dominated countries.
And about colonialism, well speak for yourself. My country did not exploit any Muslim lands and yet is being forced by the EU to accept migrant quotas.
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As a member of a Palestinian Christian family, I support this
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Originally posted by MileysusSlayrus
But Muslims are only 5% of the entire population of Europe... Anyway, if you're going to colonize dozens of Muslim countries for years, exploit their ressources, rape their women and leave the country in a s*** situation, it's only logical that many of those people you colonized will come to your country in hope of a better futur.
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And muslims did the same thing to Europeans, just not for years but centuries.
Anyway, congrats.
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He's pro LGBT right as well!
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Kinda makes me sad that this would never happen in my country.
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Originally posted by Jan
They're 5% of the population now. Their fertility rates are up to 6 times higher than that of native Europeans. In a matter of a few decades, they will become an electorate to whose governments will have to appeal to, which will pave the way for them to change Europe in a legislative way.
Even the liberal Muslims won't be so eager to cling to their "liberalism", when they become a majority - my personal opinion. While younger generations will always be prone to going radical whenever they feel down in their lives. The difference between radical Islam and radical Christian beliefs is that Christian terrorism is virtually nonexistent.
You guys speak of liberal Muslims with Western values but yet there are too many cases of them not respecting European beliefs. That also includes homophobia, so it's beyond me why all the liberal gays support this
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims. And don't come here speaking of IRA and Basque nationalists, the risk from them is nothing compared to an army of people fighting for their spiritual beliefs. And there is really no effective way to combat Muslim radicalism (the term itself is stupid, because what they're doing is literally said in their holy book), it's being swept under the carpet. I don't want a Muslim radicalism problem and the only effective way of it is making those who are so unhappy with the rotten West leave.
Sorry for not being sorry. Like it here or leave, I don't recall Christians being treated nicely in Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia or other Muslim-dominated countries.
And about colonialism, well speak for yourself. My country did not exploit any Muslim lands and yet is being forced by the EU to accept migrant quotas.
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a KII.......a CACKLE.....a MESS
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Originally posted by Jan
They're 5% of the population now. Their fertility rates are up to 6 times higher than that of native Europeans. In a matter of a few decades, they will become an electorate to whose governments will have to appeal to, which will pave the way for them to change Europe in a legislative way.
Even the liberal Muslims won't be so eager to cling to their "liberalism", when they become a majority - my personal opinion. While younger generations will always be prone to going radical whenever they feel down in their lives. The difference between radical Islam and radical Christian beliefs is that Christian terrorism is virtually nonexistent.
You guys speak of liberal Muslims with Western values but yet there are too many cases of them not respecting European beliefs. That also includes homophobia, so it's beyond me why all the liberal gays support this
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims. And don't come here speaking of IRA and Basque nationalists, the risk from them is nothing compared to an army of people fighting for their spiritual beliefs. And there is really no effective way to combat Muslim radicalism (the term itself is stupid, because what they're doing is literally said in their holy book), it's being swept under the carpet. I don't want a Muslim radicalism problem and the only effective way of it is making those who are so unhappy with the rotten West leave.
Sorry for not being sorry. Like it here or leave, I don't recall Christians being treated nicely in Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia or other Muslim-dominated countries.
And about colonialism, well speak for yourself. My country did not exploit any Muslim lands and yet is being forced by the EU to accept migrant quotas.
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Someone gets it
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