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News: Atheists, agnostics know most about religion, survey says
Member Since: 1/14/2007
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Originally posted by Alexz
Eve? Is that her English name? The first woman ever created from a piece of stomach of the first man you know..
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It was a joke. I knew what you were talking about. I never knew that people actually used other translations of her name when speaking in English.
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Member Since: 8/14/2007
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Originally posted by yankee04
It was a joke. I knew what you were talking about. I never knew that people actually used other translations of her name when speaking in English.
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Oh yes, the Bible is full of names that you say different in English.. I've read the Bible in Italian and the names change too.
Jesus father is Jose and the mother is Maria, etc.
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Member Since: 5/15/2010
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People shouldn't take literal what the bible said, priests have explained all its metaphorical, and that Adam & Eve were tribes, etc... I think people knew by now?
anyway, I don't believe ALL was created from nothing, that's ******** (screw that mf stephen hawking) and scientists CAN'T prove that, so to people that say God didn't create anything, we are in the same field, that's a mystery will remain unsolved, only when we die we'll found out...
I'm a liberal and I don't go to church but I do believe God and thank him everyday for being alive.
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Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by fabbriche
When something teaches nothing but good then it's right.
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You have NOT read the bible, hence the concusion of this study
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Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by Alexz
Well, the whole "sacrifice his only son" thing is supposed to show us God loves us.
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Again, it makes no sense that the only way for the almighty origionator to show compassion is by sending his son to die on a sick death mission....
If any human being showed their love for another by planning and seeing to fruitition a third party's death, someone's going to jail
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Originally posted by Red
Why do people who believe in God feel the need to push their beliefs upon those who either don't believe in God or don't know if such a deity exists? You don't see me running around, talking about how there's no proof that God exists, because I respect the beliefs of others. My family (for the most part) believes in God, and my extended family ESPECIALLY believes in God, but do I try to tell them that what they believe may be wrong? NO, because I may be just as wrong as they may be wrong. And let me say, before anyone jumps on me, that I don't REALLY like when non-believers do the same, because they're just doing the same thing, only from a different perspective.
The point is that WE DON'T KNOW if such a thing as an almighty power exists, and I'm tired of either side pushing their beliefs upon us as if they know everything and that they know THEIR position is right. You don't, and none of us do.
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The difference is that we, who believe in God, have something called FAITH. This is what the atheists, agnostics, skeptics are lacking. We are more than certain that God really exists not because we see Him by our naked eyes but because we feel Him in our everyday lives. It would so hard and even impossible to insinuate this truth to a non-believer. But really, experience is the best teacher. When you experience Him act in your life, you will not need eyes to see inorder to believe. Actually those people who are always looking for proofs and evidence first before they believe that He truly exists have very shallow understanding of God. But when you finally realize on yourself after maybe a life-changing experience or a simple realization upon a scrutiny of something, you will not only have a deeper understanding of God, but you will also have a closer and personal relationship with Him.
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Member Since: 10/30/2009
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Originally posted by fabbriche
The difference is that we, who believe in God, have something called FAITH. This is what the atheists, agnostics, skeptics are lacking. We are more than certain that God really exists not because we see Him by our naked eyes but because we feel Him in our everyday lives. It would so hard and even impossible to insinuate this truth to a non-believer. But really, experience is the best teacher. When you experience Him act in your life, you will not need eyes to see inorder to believe. Actually those people who are always looking for proofs and evidence first before they believe that He truly exists have very shallow understanding of God. But when you finally realize on yourself after maybe a life-changing experience or a simple realization upon a scrutiny of something, you will not only have a deeper understanding of God, but you will also have a closer and personal relationship with Him.
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you need to get out of little world any time soon..
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Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by licq
you need to get out of little world any time soon..
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I tried to retaliate his posts but hit delete when i realized virtually every sentence was composed of delusion and hocus pocas
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Member Since: 1/14/2007
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Originally posted by licq
you need to get out of little world any time soon..
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You may not agree with him and neither do I but he was just stating his opinion. It is quite a strong opinion that I can see he strongly believes in what he said. You cannot fight someone with faith as strong as his on the topic of religion .
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Member Since: 9/10/2010
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Originally posted by andresg770
It makes perfect sense atheists and agnostics would know a lot about religion, perhaps even more than a good deal of religious people. I mean, you CAN'T truly and honestly disagree with something you don't know; you have to know it in order to question it and then form an informed opinion on why you disagree with it. Meanwhile, it's a lot easier to agree (or to say that you agree) with something that you don't know.
Like, if someone speaks before you, and you say, "I disagree," you're expected to give arguments as to why you disagree with the person to make your claim valid. If the person after you says that s/he agrees with you, though, they more likely than not will not be asked to give arguments for WHY they agree with you: We just take it as implicit fact (even though it's a bit of circular logic) that a person agrees with another because they have the same arguments.
Also, as someone who does workshops on Church History at my Catholic parish every once in a while, I've noticed that most people, even the some of the more pious ones, rarely ever demand to learn more about theology, history, and the Church's traditions. Instead, they prefer all the 'spiritual' and 'charismatic' stuff, which I understand can be appealing to some and in many ways helpful... But still, they should also care about what makes the Church what it is now, and not just what about religion makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside, because then they pretty much grow ignorant of the religion that they say they spouse.
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Where have you been all my life and why are you writing what I'm thinking but in a more logical fashion?
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Member Since: 9/10/2010
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Originally posted by Alexz
That's not true. He created different languages as a punishment because Eva ate a ****ing apple.
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No, because the people (of Babel?) were trying to build a tower to Heaven.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
Right?! It ****in irritates me when people think "oh, well I was taught this" or "well I grew up in this kind of household." That's cute and all when you're five, but when you're an adult and your only reason for your beliefs is through ~tradition~ instead of actual research and your own studies about your religion is ignorance.
& then preachers turn out to be the biggest hypocrites ever but people still fall for it and think that them attending church every Sunday will all of a sudden stop them from eternal damnation or whatever negative repercussion they believe in.
This survey doesn't shock me at all.
With that said, I guess I could consider myself agnostic. I'm uncertain about what exactly God is and I don't use Jesus or the Bible as a belief system. I do pray from time to time to calm myself- more so as a form of mediation than ~praying my sins away.
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Yasssssss
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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And I'm sure the hardcore Christians flooded this thread preaching on some higher being they've never encountered and only serve because their parents forced them to go to church every Sunday.
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Member Since: 4/4/2010
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Originally posted by Hi.Ðefinitiøn
And I'm sure the hardcore Christians flooded this thread preaching on some higher being they've never encountered and only serve because their parents forced them to go to church every Sunday.
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Not true, my dad doesnt like going to church nor does my mother force me to go or go herself. All my life i've called myself Christian but never really knew anything about it, which was ignorant. So last year I began to read the bible and do research myself and I have developed my own theories on who and what GOD is. I forsure believe in GOD, it seems irrational for me to not because that's basically saying we are all accidents and we dont mean ****. Everything for sure happens for a reason. The sun just doesnt rise because its 6 ****ing AM
You have to believe in something to disagree or go against it, atheist .
And im not throwing shade at all atheist, I respect everyone's beliefs and perspectives, but those who talk the most **** without knowing anything about a certain religion and have no respect for what others feel are just . .
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by WheresJay
Not true, my dad doesnt like going to church nor does my mother force me to go or go herself. All my life i've called myself Christian but never really knew anything about it, which was ignorant. So last year I began to read the bible and do research myself and I have developed my own theories on who and what GOD is. I forsure believe in GOD, it seems irrational for me to not because that's basically saying we are all accidents and we dont mean ****. Everything for sure happens for a reason. The sun just doesnt rise because its 6 ****ing AM
You have to believe in something to disagree or go against it, atheist .
And im not throwing shade at all atheist, I respect everyone's beliefs and perspectives, but those who talk the most **** without knowing anything about a certain religion and have no respect for what others feel are just . .
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I agree to some extent. I wasn't forced to go to church but i took it into my hands and decided to research on my own. Also, I've been in a lot of near death situations (so has my family) but by some ****ing miracle, we've made it through alive. We turned to God in those times of need and we've always had our prayers answered. For me, it was enough proof for me that He exists.
I do have a lot of religious tolerance - if people are atheist or whatnot, that's up to them. I don't go nag them or anything.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by WheresJay
Not true, my dad doesnt like going to church nor does my mother force me to go or go herself. All my life i've called myself Christian but never really knew anything about it, which was ignorant. So last year I began to read the bible and do research myself and I have developed my own theories on who and what GOD is. I forsure believe in GOD, it seems irrational for me to not because that's basically saying we are all accidents and we dont mean ****. Everything for sure happens for a reason. The sun just doesnt rise because its 6 ****ing AM
You have to believe in something to disagree or go against it, atheist .
And im not throwing shade at all atheist, I respect everyone's beliefs and perspectives, but those who talk the most **** without knowing anything about a certain religion and have no respect for what others feel are just . .
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It's certainly true. I'm speaking from personal experiences. Also, plenty of people in my family are high ranking church officials. Some even pastor over churches.
Plenty of children blindly follow into religion because of the way their parents raised them. Geez already said it perfectly himself.
Also, the Sun rises because of science, specifically because the Earth rotates, which has been proven. It has nothing to do with a God. The same goes for natural disasters that Christians say is the effect of God's wrath when it's been proven by science that it's not. I'm not an atheist either, so don't bother trying to tell me otherwise.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by licq
you need to get out of little world any time soon..
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OMG, stop.
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Member Since: 9/28/2009
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You all should read Life Of Pi.
Also the religion in Avatar - amazing. I wish humans could be like that.
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Member Since: 10/28/2008
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I believe in God but the ardent faith holders are so adamant to shove the Bible down our throats.
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Member Since: 10/28/2009
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Originally posted by WheresJay
I forsure believe in GOD, it seems irrational for me to not because that's basically saying we are all accidents and we dont mean ****.
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How is that any more or less irrational than the idea of a guy in the sky creating us for ***** and giggles?
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